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Technicaly speaking both Yahve (The Presence) and God (kinda confusing if you ask me) are in the Vertigo editorial. That mean they are from the same verse?
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according to alrf azathoth is weaker than eldergodsWokistan said:Also EGD would probably be weaker than demonbane Azathoth, considering that EGD=Yog and Azathoth is still superior to Yog. It's not tier 0 anymore.
nope oblivion is not part of existence and existence only refers to the infinite layered multiverse.MrKingOfNegativity said:As far as I'm aware, Marvel only has two 1-As. The other is Oblivion.
Part of the reason Beyonder is "possibly 1-A" (from what I can recall) is because being "the mightiest being in existence" in that writing period's cosmology would have included surpassing Oblivion.
I agreedPsychoWarper said:@Tetro I already said that.
Divine Creator and Oblvion are more powerful than Beyonder.
Doesn't The Beyonder do the same thing with the Beyonder-Realm?PsychoWarper said:By embodying an entire Outerversal void.
Whyyyyyy?PsychoWarper said:The Void is condsidered above the Beyonder Realm.
I quote myself for this. The order is from Bobsi and is his point of view. My point of view is that the order of how the characters are distributed is fine since discussing the strongest one would make this thread as a not happy thread. But is Bobsi the one who has the last word.BleedingPeach said:[...] It just shows the top ones since discussing the strongest one would lead to this theme .