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Hello, this CRT will be my first ever tier 1 CRT and is gonna be a long one so please bear with me. Now that the PGR verse has been made, with the profile of Rosetta down the next step is the implementation of verse specific abilities, with those being Construct Physiology & Punishing Virus respectively. Construct Physiology should be quite simple and easy, that is until we get to the Omega Frames, originally I had thought to just release the page in the state it had previously been in. However, with the ramifications that the higher dimensionality of the virus has on the verse it gets a bit hectic. Since the Omega Frames are capable of cleansing the virus even in areas such as the Hetero Tower where the concentration of the virus is at an all time high. From this a few things need to be made to properly flesh out all these pages as they piggy back off each other;
1. In order for the potency of the Omega Frames Purification and Resistance to be fully understood, the PV (Punishing Virus) page has to be created.
2. In order for the PV page to properly showcase this potency, the Hetero Tower page must be created.
3. The Hetero Tower page requires a profile for Lee Hyperreal.
4. Lee's page then requires a profile for the Primal Projection (as she's the only enemy this version of Lee seriously fights).
5. Which then leads to the requirement of Ishmael's profile, as she is the source of the Projection and the current peak of the verse as of the creation of this thread.
Now, while I don't particularly "need" to create the profiles for Lee, the Hetero Tower, Ishmael or the Primal Projection right now, it is at least important for me to highlight how they scale to each other, as it's relevant to all the scaling for the god tier characters in the verse. With that long winded explanation down, we now get into the nitty gritty of the CRT, which will not only work as a verse specific abilities CRT but also a tiering CRT to get the verse to at least L1C but preferably 1C. If you disagree with anything mentioned here feel free to write down why and I will attempt to answer each question promptly.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO SKIP THE INITIAL YAP PLEASE START READING FROM HERE.
The general scaling is as follows, Ishmael is the current peak of the verse. Being a Higher Dimensional entity above Lee Hyperreal. With Lee having transcended beyond time and dimensions. Making him a higher dimensional being capable of freely manipulating "all universe's" while also granting him travel across the spacetime-continuum. As it is stated time has a "boundless array of possibilities", with Lee having experienced countless sunrises and sunsets as well as all versions of himself throughout all universe's being in "an infinite loop" and there being "infinite futures".
Once Lee passes the initial trial and manages to reach the gate, he's pulled into a completely different world, a distorted dimension. Where "the concepts of beginning and end do not exist". And another following statement about "beings who dwell in a higher dimension" is made. With the Watcher (Ishmael) even needing to transform this space into something Lee can comprehend, which is important because "the summit" is in fact a gateway to a higher dimension. One already above this Lee, who at this point should be at least L1C for transcending beyond time and dimensions as I showed earlier, as well as being able to reach this summit which is later confirmed to be the true test hidden by the towers "rules and logic" as he was previously unable to even interact with or enter this space until he passed all the trials. Which just supports the summit being higher D (I will touch up more on that later).
As he's above all the universes and dimensions up until this point, this would mean that the watchers would scale an entire higher dimension above both him and the summit naturally. As they are literally what created the tower in the first place, to test humanity and the virus. If for some odd reason you're still skeptical this far in, there is yet another scan confirming that Ishmael is beyond the dimensions as she requires a literal avatar that can travel in lower dimensions to even interact with Lee who's at the summit. Having "projections who can travel in lower dimensions" is also noted to be an extremely rare ability that only a small portion of Watchers possess. She then states their true goal is to watch and witness "the real future among all possibilities".
Lee then defeats the primal projection, which is the watcher's projection. Now, while the primal projection is naturally not as powerful as Ishmael's true form (as it has already been stated to be a lower dimensional projection of herself), we can at least confirm that it is comparable if not superior to Lee, as he's died countless times to it and only managed to defeat it after millions of years if not more, only defeating it through the use of Acausality Type 3 granted to him by the tower. Finally, after beating the projection and being qualified by Ishmael herself as someone worthy she gives him an option to "pass through the gate" stating that if he doesn't do so and decides to reject godhood he will forget everything that happened, lose all his powers and all that transpired would be erased from history.
This then circles back to my earlier statement about the summit being a higher dimension as it's clearly stated here by Ishmael, that if he were to go through the gate he would be qualified to step into "the wider world" and "choose his perfect world" as shown in the scan above. It also implies that merely by entering the summit he had already become a higher dimensional being incapable of traveling to lower dimensions, as he needed Ishmael's help to return to the proper world. Which ties in perfectly with the previous scan mentioned here stating that only an extremely small portion of Watchers are capable of creating projections who can travel to these lower dimensions.
The ramifications of this are not made clear until much later in the story when Ishmael becomes a playable character with her own story chapter, however since it's still untranslated and likely will not be out for months it wouldn't work as evidence. So even if proof of the gate being the watchers realm is there, it would be inadequate to use for the time being. I do however, hope I was able to convey why Lee, the Hetero Tower & The Primal Projection should be at least L1C with Ishmael being 1C if not higher. (Though again, the main point of this CRT is to break the verse into at least tier L1C)
How Construct Physiology and Punishing Virus verse specific pages tie into the above scaling
Now I will tie in how Construct Physiology and the Punishing Virus tie into the above scaling and thankfully it's a lot simpler. For starters, Lee is the very first Omega Frame with complete immunity to the PV. Which was the only reason he managed to survive in the Tower for as long as he did, and as mentioned previously the Hetero Tower had and still has the highest concentration of punishing of anything in the entire story as of the making of this post. Meaning the Omega Frames purification and resistances are similar in potency to the Tower's virus concentration. As it's confirmed that the tower is formed by a high concentration of Punishing. With it also being stated that once the concentration level reaches deadly, long term battles for humans and constructs is impossible with constructs who have been dispatched to dead zones having been abandoned by Babylonia indefinitely as they were incapable of rescuing these constructs with their tech at the time.
From this, it becomes very clear that the concentration of the tower directly correlates with the overall potency of the virus. Since the Hetero Tower is constructed from a highly concentrated form of the PV. This concentration is what contributes to the virus's significant potency within the tower, I want to clarify that I am not suggesting that all phenomena related to the PV would scale in the same way. For example, lesser corrupted entities would not possess this level of potency. Instead, my point is that similar levels of concentration should yield comparable results. While this may seem somewhat irrelevant at the moment considering the tower has the highest concentration of punishing in the series at this point in time as I stated earlier, it is crucial for future profiles. Thus I am addressing this here and now, as it is more efficient than bringing it up at a later point.
Universal Energy System
Finally the very last thing is a verse UES, this should also be incredibly easy. Various corrupted entities (who are the only characters in the series capable of manipulating the Punishing Virus) each have shown very blatant UES feats. Such as the Corrupted Sister being able to harness the power of the virus, increasing her speed as one of her abilities. Or a child Luna who increases her speed despite being heavily injured and recently shot multiple times. With Luna also being able to give herself impenetrable defense. These examples should qualify for a UES, as they not only effortlessly prove a LES, drawing their power from the same exact source, but also prove a NPES.
With that being said, that is the end of this long CRT. Finally, here is the Construct Physiology page and the Punishing Virus page blogs I created which I will put in for submission. As for the profiles for the Hetero Tower, Lee, Primal Projection & Ishmael I will do those at a later point in time.
Agree: @Shiraito983, @Black-san112, @rogueprestonian
Neutral:
Disagree:
1. In order for the potency of the Omega Frames Purification and Resistance to be fully understood, the PV (Punishing Virus) page has to be created.
2. In order for the PV page to properly showcase this potency, the Hetero Tower page must be created.
3. The Hetero Tower page requires a profile for Lee Hyperreal.
4. Lee's page then requires a profile for the Primal Projection (as she's the only enemy this version of Lee seriously fights).
5. Which then leads to the requirement of Ishmael's profile, as she is the source of the Projection and the current peak of the verse as of the creation of this thread.
Now, while I don't particularly "need" to create the profiles for Lee, the Hetero Tower, Ishmael or the Primal Projection right now, it is at least important for me to highlight how they scale to each other, as it's relevant to all the scaling for the god tier characters in the verse. With that long winded explanation down, we now get into the nitty gritty of the CRT, which will not only work as a verse specific abilities CRT but also a tiering CRT to get the verse to at least L1C but preferably 1C. If you disagree with anything mentioned here feel free to write down why and I will attempt to answer each question promptly.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO SKIP THE INITIAL YAP PLEASE START READING FROM HERE.
The general scaling is as follows, Ishmael is the current peak of the verse. Being a Higher Dimensional entity above Lee Hyperreal. With Lee having transcended beyond time and dimensions. Making him a higher dimensional being capable of freely manipulating "all universe's" while also granting him travel across the spacetime-continuum. As it is stated time has a "boundless array of possibilities", with Lee having experienced countless sunrises and sunsets as well as all versions of himself throughout all universe's being in "an infinite loop" and there being "infinite futures".
Once Lee passes the initial trial and manages to reach the gate, he's pulled into a completely different world, a distorted dimension. Where "the concepts of beginning and end do not exist". And another following statement about "beings who dwell in a higher dimension" is made. With the Watcher (Ishmael) even needing to transform this space into something Lee can comprehend, which is important because "the summit" is in fact a gateway to a higher dimension. One already above this Lee, who at this point should be at least L1C for transcending beyond time and dimensions as I showed earlier, as well as being able to reach this summit which is later confirmed to be the true test hidden by the towers "rules and logic" as he was previously unable to even interact with or enter this space until he passed all the trials. Which just supports the summit being higher D (I will touch up more on that later).
As he's above all the universes and dimensions up until this point, this would mean that the watchers would scale an entire higher dimension above both him and the summit naturally. As they are literally what created the tower in the first place, to test humanity and the virus. If for some odd reason you're still skeptical this far in, there is yet another scan confirming that Ishmael is beyond the dimensions as she requires a literal avatar that can travel in lower dimensions to even interact with Lee who's at the summit. Having "projections who can travel in lower dimensions" is also noted to be an extremely rare ability that only a small portion of Watchers possess. She then states their true goal is to watch and witness "the real future among all possibilities".
Lee then defeats the primal projection, which is the watcher's projection. Now, while the primal projection is naturally not as powerful as Ishmael's true form (as it has already been stated to be a lower dimensional projection of herself), we can at least confirm that it is comparable if not superior to Lee, as he's died countless times to it and only managed to defeat it after millions of years if not more, only defeating it through the use of Acausality Type 3 granted to him by the tower. Finally, after beating the projection and being qualified by Ishmael herself as someone worthy she gives him an option to "pass through the gate" stating that if he doesn't do so and decides to reject godhood he will forget everything that happened, lose all his powers and all that transpired would be erased from history.
This then circles back to my earlier statement about the summit being a higher dimension as it's clearly stated here by Ishmael, that if he were to go through the gate he would be qualified to step into "the wider world" and "choose his perfect world" as shown in the scan above. It also implies that merely by entering the summit he had already become a higher dimensional being incapable of traveling to lower dimensions, as he needed Ishmael's help to return to the proper world. Which ties in perfectly with the previous scan mentioned here stating that only an extremely small portion of Watchers are capable of creating projections who can travel to these lower dimensions.
The ramifications of this are not made clear until much later in the story when Ishmael becomes a playable character with her own story chapter, however since it's still untranslated and likely will not be out for months it wouldn't work as evidence. So even if proof of the gate being the watchers realm is there, it would be inadequate to use for the time being. I do however, hope I was able to convey why Lee, the Hetero Tower & The Primal Projection should be at least L1C with Ishmael being 1C if not higher. (Though again, the main point of this CRT is to break the verse into at least tier L1C)
How Construct Physiology and Punishing Virus verse specific pages tie into the above scaling
Now I will tie in how Construct Physiology and the Punishing Virus tie into the above scaling and thankfully it's a lot simpler. For starters, Lee is the very first Omega Frame with complete immunity to the PV. Which was the only reason he managed to survive in the Tower for as long as he did, and as mentioned previously the Hetero Tower had and still has the highest concentration of punishing of anything in the entire story as of the making of this post. Meaning the Omega Frames purification and resistances are similar in potency to the Tower's virus concentration. As it's confirmed that the tower is formed by a high concentration of Punishing. With it also being stated that once the concentration level reaches deadly, long term battles for humans and constructs is impossible with constructs who have been dispatched to dead zones having been abandoned by Babylonia indefinitely as they were incapable of rescuing these constructs with their tech at the time.
From this, it becomes very clear that the concentration of the tower directly correlates with the overall potency of the virus. Since the Hetero Tower is constructed from a highly concentrated form of the PV. This concentration is what contributes to the virus's significant potency within the tower, I want to clarify that I am not suggesting that all phenomena related to the PV would scale in the same way. For example, lesser corrupted entities would not possess this level of potency. Instead, my point is that similar levels of concentration should yield comparable results. While this may seem somewhat irrelevant at the moment considering the tower has the highest concentration of punishing in the series at this point in time as I stated earlier, it is crucial for future profiles. Thus I am addressing this here and now, as it is more efficient than bringing it up at a later point.
Universal Energy System
Finally the very last thing is a verse UES, this should also be incredibly easy. Various corrupted entities (who are the only characters in the series capable of manipulating the Punishing Virus) each have shown very blatant UES feats. Such as the Corrupted Sister being able to harness the power of the virus, increasing her speed as one of her abilities. Or a child Luna who increases her speed despite being heavily injured and recently shot multiple times. With Luna also being able to give herself impenetrable defense. These examples should qualify for a UES, as they not only effortlessly prove a LES, drawing their power from the same exact source, but also prove a NPES.
With that being said, that is the end of this long CRT. Finally, here is the Construct Physiology page and the Punishing Virus page blogs I created which I will put in for submission. As for the profiles for the Hetero Tower, Lee, Primal Projection & Ishmael I will do those at a later point in time.
Agree: @Shiraito983, @Black-san112, @rogueprestonian
Neutral:
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