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Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for every tier continued

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BrackishBrineBroth said:
Fedmahn Kassad for #5 low 7-B? It looks like he can beat Saten with unequalized speed, even. His phase suit allows him to passively accelerate and decelerate time, and he can travel backwards and forwards in time, which it looks like Saten doesn't resist.
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BrackishBrineBroth said:
Actually, The Shrike from the same verse can do everything Kassad can do and more. So #4 should be characters from Hyperion Cantos and Saten should be bumped down to #5.
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Bumping this.
 
Nicetoderp said:
EoS Takeru can't be perceived by being that is able to perceived ghost which are invisible to normal human.
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Isn't EoS Takeru High 6-B, since that is what the key is tied to?
Also, any resistance to layered mind and madness manip, and no the NEP does not matter given it can affect vessels that are specifically made to have no mind so that they don't get got by the infection.
 
deonment said:
Isn't EoS Takeru High 6-B, since that is what the key is tied to?
Also, any resistance to layered mind and madness manip, and no the NEP does not matter given it can affect vessels that are specifically made to have no mind so that they don't get got by the infection.
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Technically, but he start in civilian and jump to EoS via Henshin.

Already have resistance to mind manip, can most likely just reactive Evo through it.

Can the Radiance even interact with Takeru? Also something like Mugen just passively null abilities that interact with him.
 
Nicetoderp said:
Do any of the Owari No Chronicle 9-B have any way to perceive invisible being?
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They don't necessarily need to, due to AoE effects. E.g. Jord's ability inversion would make anything invisible visible. Toda leads with a technique that makes the opponent incapable to perceiving the world, ironically enough.
Toda's pseudo-precog can deal with most types of invisibility and stealth, and the writing concept is multi-purpose enough to be used as a counter.
(Generally, most OnC characters are somewhat skilled enough to fight mechanical dragons, who are likewise invisible)
Sayama could just erase the concept of invisibility.
There are a few more options, but you get the gist.
 
Nicetoderp said:
Technically, but he start in civilian and jump to EoS via Henshin.

Already have resistance to mind manip, can most likely just reactive Evo through it.

Can the Radiance even interact with Takeru? Also something like Mugen just passively null abilities that interact with him.
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Aight.

How many layers and once he is under her control he ain't doing shit, along with being able to eventually bypass people's resistance to it.

Yes, dream beings can interact with other dream beings, who are constructed out of essence, which makes up thoughts, feelings, and emotions, and beings connected to higher beings can interact with SOUL, let alone a full higher being like the radiance. And if you are referring to the EoS key, she can already mind and madness hax mindless beings, along with that stuff being passive, to begin with.
 
deonment said:
Yes, dream beings can interact with other dream beings, who are constructed out of essence, which makes up thoughts, feelings, and emotions, and beings connected to higher beings can interact with SOUL
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Only one layer, also Takeru NEP is on physical, mental and spiritual level.

His reactive evo work by connecting the mind of other, so by infecting he'll straight up just gain resistance from it via continuously mind linking to other people as well.



DontTalkDT said:
They don't necessarily need to, due to AoE effects. E.g. Jord's ability inversion would make anything invisible visible. Toda leads with a technique that makes the opponent incapable to perceiving the world, ironically enough.
Toda's pseudo-precog can deal with most types of invisibility and stealth, and the writing concept is multi-purpose enough to be used as a counter.
(Generally, most OnC characters are somewhat skilled enough to fight mechanical dragons, who are likewise invisible)
Sayama could just erase the concept of invisibility.
There are a few more options, but you get the gist.
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I see, I see.
 
Nicetoderp said:
Only one layer, also Takeru NEP is on physical, mental and spiritual level.

His reactive evo work by connecting the mind of other, so by infecting he'll straight up just gain resistance from it via continuously mind linking to other people as well.
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Oh, so he gets merked by the passive mind, and madness hax, esp since he needs to transform to reach the nep
since Soul Sanctum Fodder (Not failures and mistakes)<=Soul Master<Basic Vessel Resistance<The HK<The Radiance's Hax
He will be mentally dead by that point as that is what the infection does, at the bare minimum he will be in a vegetative state, but even then how or why would he mind linking to other people, as the infection doesn't do hive mind stuff?
 
Alucard after my CRT is gonna be a 9-A with Mid-Godly, Type 1 AE, Subjective Reality, advanced NPI and on top of his other hax such as passive fear hax, mind hax, etc.


Going by that I'd imagine he'd take the 2nd spot for 9-A, perhaps #1 depending on what DnD character it is. (Unfamiliar with that verse so a profile for reference would be nice.)
 
LordGinSama said:
Alucard after my CRT is gonna be a 9-A with Mid-Godly, Type 1 AE, Subjective Reality, advanced NPI and on top of his other hax such as passive fear hax, mind hax, etc.
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A character has a tier that varies with his will between 9-A, 8-B, 8-A and 7-B

Can I try put him on some spot from 8-A for exemple? He cannot change Tier during the fight
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
A character has a tier that varies with his will between 9-A, 8-B, 8-A and 7-B

Can I try put him on some spot from 8-A for exemple? He cannot change Tier during the fight
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Nope, there is specifically a varies tier (in the other list) precisely for those characters. If use varies characters with their in between tiers was valid then there would probably more spots doing that (and Kousuke would also be placed in the 8-A tier instead of just 8-B)
 
Expectro2000xxx said:
Nope, there is specifically a varies tier (in the other list) precisely for those characters. If use varies characters with their in between tiers was valid then there would probably more spots doing that (and Kousuke would also be placed in the 8-A tier instead of just 8-B)
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Gonna find that for Johnny.
 
Not all of them have Tier 1 hax's, especially in the tiers Johnny's in (he still doesn't beat them, i'm just correcting misinformation)
 
deonment said:
Oh, so he gets merked by the passive mind, and madness hax, esp since he needs to transform to reach the nep
since Soul Sanctum Fodder (Not failures and mistakes)<=Soul Master<Basic Vessel Resistance<The HK<The Radiance's Hax
He will be mentally dead by that point as that is what the infection does, at the bare minimum he will be in a vegetative state, but even then how or why would he mind linking to other people, as the infection doesn't do hive mind stuff?
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Not exactly, by the time he has reached EoS he is in NEP state and mind linking is basically his go-to borderline passive due to Great Eyes influence.
 
Nicetoderp said:
Not exactly, by the time he has reached EoS he is in NEP state and mind linking is basically his go-to borderline passive due to Great Eyes influence.
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Once again, it can mindhax things without minds, so moot point
How fast is this, as if it doesn't give resistance, and doesn't happen fast enough for him to bypass all of these layers from his baseline level then he just gets no diffed, also how exactly does the mind link work?
 
Setsuna_tenma said:
same rules as last thread.

Tier 1-A:

1. Characters from World of Darkness

2. The Goddess of The Manifold

3. Characters from Megami Tensei

4.

5.

Tier Low 1-A:

1. Characters from Marvel Comics (Speed Unequalized) / Characters from A Wild Last Boss Appeared (Speed Equalized)

2.

3.

4.

5.

Tier High 1-B:

1.

2.

3.

4.

5.

Tier 1-B:

1. Gods (Magi)

2. Characters from Instant Death (Yogiri, UEG, and Touichirou)

3. The Dreaming Ones

4. Characters from Transformers

5.

Tier High 1-C:

1. Characters from Doctor Who (such as The Six-Fold God) /Mother Eater

2. Characters from Gurren Lagann (Verse) / Will of the Honkai

3. Characters from To Aru Majutsu No Index (High Priest mainly)

4. Sun Wukong

5.

Tier 1-C:

1. Characters from DMC

2. Characters from Nasuverse

3. Characters from Kamen Rider

4.

5.

Tier Low 1-C:

1. Characters from Nasuverse

2. Xue Ying

3. Anos

4. Makina (Speed Equal) / Knives (Speed Unequal)

5. Characters from Marvel Comics

Tier 2-A:

1. Gu Ghensha

2. Characters from Puella Magi Verse

3. Characters from Final Fantasy

4. Lavos

5. Characters from Pokémon



Tier 2-B:

1. Characters from Pokémon

2. Rimuru Tempest

3. Characters from Tokyo Babel

4. Characters from Coiling Dragon

5.

Tier 2-C:

1. Characters from Castlevania

2. Orcus and Demogorgon

3. The Nameless

4 .Exdeath

5. Characters from Destiny

Tier Low 2-C:

1. Sertrous

2. Lavos

3. Characters from Destiny

4. VELDORA

5. Ecang




Tier High 3-A:

1. Characters from God of War (Mainly Kratos)

2. Greeza

3.Disembodied Thought

4. Characters from Pokémon

5.

Tier 3-A:

1. Satan

2. Greeza / Characters from Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken (such as Diablo (Web Novel))

3. Every Man

4.

5.

Tier 3-B:

1. Zhong Yue

2. Saint-Emperor

3. Ji Ning

4.

5.

Tier 3-C:

1. Characters from Bastard!!

2. Odin (Fortissimo)

3. The White Queen (Blood Sign)

4. Sailor Moon (Character)

5. Characters from Saint Seiya



Tier 4-A:

1. Characters from Ergenverse (mostly Gongsun Wan'er)

2. Li Qiye

3. Orloff

4. Ji Ning

5. Godcat



Tier 4-B:

1. Characters from Ergenverse (mostly Gongsun Wan'er)

2. The White Queen (Blood Sign)

3. Senshi from Sailor Moon (Universe)

4. Balancer

5. Zhong Yue

Tier High 4-C

1. Balancer

2. Xue Ying

3. Characters from Yu-Gi-Oh!

4.

5.


Tier 4-C:

1. Nono

2. Theodore Miller

3. Teridax

4.

5.

Tier Low 4-C:

1. Dark Samus

2. Characters from Enter the Gungeon

3. Other characters from Metroid

4. Sonic

5. HIM

Tier High 5-A:

1. Du Tian

2. Xue Ying

3. Pink Panther

4.Teridax

5. Super Sonic (X)

Tier 5-A:

1. Characters from Ergenverse (mostly Wang Lin)

2. Jerga

3 Zeref

4. Characters from Weakest Mage

5. Kamen Rider Lazer


Tier 5-B:

1. Characters from Ergenverse (mostly Gongsun Wan'er)

2. Odin (Fortissimo)

3. Meng Chuan

4. Characters from D.Gray-Man (Allen Walker and The Millennium Earl)

5.

Tier Low 5-B:

1. Rei Ayanami / Adam (Evangelion)

2. Mummy the Resurrection

3. Characters from Ergenverse (Bai Xiaochun and Ji Mo)

4. QiQi

5. Ji Ning

Tier 5-C:

1. Kagami

2. Characters from Ergenverse

3. Characters from Arifureta

4. Sigma

5. Kenshiro

Tier High 6-A:

1. Golden King

2. Zhong Yue

3. Characters from Ergenverse

4. Ji Ning

5. Characters from Bleach (Yhwach, Sosuke Aizen and Lille Barro)

Tier 6-A:

1. Characters from Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken (such as Diablo (Web Novel))

2. Characters from Ergenverse

3. Kidou En

4. Tendou Harima

5. Gremmy Thourmeaux

Tier High 6-B:

1. Characters from Ergenverse (mostly Gongsun Wan'er)

2. Kamen Rider Cronus

3. Ehit

4. Alte

5. Characters from Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken


Tier 6-B:

1. Yomoji Shinsei

2. Characters from Arifureta

3. Characters from Tsuki ga Michibiku Isekai Douchuu

4. Characters from Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken

5. Characters from Bleach

Tier Low 6-B:

1. Characters from Arifureta

2. Characters from D.Gray-Man (Road Kamelot, and Tyki Mikk )

3. Limbo

4. Ark

5. Ji Ning



Tier High 6-C:

1. Ji Ning

2. Ard

3. Characters from Bleach

4. Zero-One

5. Bebe




Tier 6-C:

1. Characters from Puella Magi Verse (Mami Tomoe and Alina Gray)

2. Li Qiye

3. Szayelaporro Granz

4. Mephisto

5. Xue Ying

Tier High 7-A:

1. Han

2. Zhong Yue

3. Characters from Arifureta

4. Edo Itachi

5.

Tier 7-A:

1. Kumoko (Speed Equal)

2. Han Jee-Han

3. Characters from Arifureta

4. Characters from Death Mage

5. Geist Grace


Tier 7-B:

1. Grimm=Grimm / Eugo La Raviaz

2. Diablo (Web Novel) / Void Entity

3. Characters from Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry (Speed Unequal)

4. Noth

5. Honjou Masayuki (Web Novel)

Tier Low 7-B:

1. Strahd von Zarovich

2. Theodore Miller

3. Characters from Godspeed (Speed Equal) / Giygas (Speed Unequalized)

4. Saten

5.

Tier High 7-C:

1. True Dark Genie

2. Han Jee-Han

3. Fran (with Master (Tensei Shitara Ken Deshita))

4. Tao Hua

5.

Tier 7-C:

1. Klein

2. Beiloune

3. Eshita Inana

4. Characters from Bleach (Yumichika Ayasegawa, Izuru Kira and Rukia Kuchiki)

5.




Tier Low 7-C:

1. Meng Chuan

2. Sacred Eclipse / Cat Boy

3. Rei Ogami

4. Natsumi

5. Characters from D.Gray-Man (Allen Walker and Yu Kanda)

Tier 8-A:

1. Sacred Eclipse

2.Dragaux

3. Flowey

4. Fugil Arcadia

5.

Tier 8-B:

1. Characters from Medaka Box (Iihiko, Medaka and Kumagawa)

2. Endou Kousuke

3.Shigara Masami

4. Janus (Nightmares of Alamir)

5. The Sorrow

Tier High 8-C:

1. Void Knight

2. Anri

3. Henry Stickmin

4. Chowder (Character)

5. Bunny

Tier 8-C:

1. Characters from What a Beautiful Series (Such as Blood Tree, Dragon & Apondance Lemure Lemure)

2. Trazyn the Infinite

3. Characters from Nuclear Throne

4.

5.

Tier 9-A:

1. Characters from Dungeons and Dragons (Such as Imp)

2. Sōya Azashiro

3. The Player (The Magic Circle)

4. Characters from Hellper

5. Haruna (Arpeggio of Blue Steel)

Tier 9-B:

1. Klein Moretti

2. Hatou Manabu

3. Characters from What a Beautiful Series (Blood Tree, Wendigo, Bandersnatch & Zahhak) / Slappy (Books)

4. Aburatori

5. Characters from Owari no Chronicle

Tier 9-C:

1. Protagonist-kun

2. Shiba Tatsuya

3. Eztli-Tenoch

4. Tamamo (High School Inari Tamamo-chan!)

5. Scarlet Witch (Marvel Cinematic Universe)



Tier 10-A:

1. Characters from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (mainly Tooru & Rohan)

2. Jean Grey

3. Sheville Warhand

4. Sabrina Spellman

5. Subaru Natsuki

Tier 10-B:

1. Characters from What a Beautiful Series

2. Higashikawa Mamoru

3. Zach Noveda

4. Shinobu Oshino

5.


Tier 10-C:

1. Mysterious Stranger

2. Wanambi

3. SCP-3043

4. Adeleine

5.The Grool (Goosebumps)



Tier 11-A:

1. SCP-3450

2. Soul Sucking Death Worm

3. Characters from Flatland (Universe)

4. Little Circle

5. Mister Mxyzptlk (Cosmic Adventures in the 8th Grade)

Tier 11-B:

1. King of Lineland

2. Queens of Lineland

Tier 11-C:

1. Monarch of Pointland
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Developed Andy for 8-A. He's got low godly regen and imm type 8 soul based and can attack the souls. If he's not good enough, Seal is better
 
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In 10-A: Why is Sheville above Sabrina again? She seems to have a big range advantage and he doesn't look to be that hard to incap or BFR.
 
deonment said:
Once again, it can mindhax things without minds, so moot point
How fast is this, as if it doesn't give resistance, and doesn't happen fast enough for him to bypass all of these layers from his baseline level then he just gets no diffed, also how exactly does the mind link work?
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And can it even interact against something that doesn't exist on physical, soul and mind level?

And yes, it does give abilities and resistance, practically allowing him to be imperceivable even to being that can perceived soul.

His mind link work as psuedo mindhax itself, allowing him to control others, while also giving him new abilities too.
 
Alucard in his Schrodinger is getting a buff, CRT was accepted so he'll be getting the following.


Abstract Existence Type 1, Mid-Godly regeneration, Subjective Reality and all the hax from his previous key. Can anyone in 9-A deal with that?
 
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