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Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for every tier continued (again)

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I thought all Kamen Riders use some sort of tech belt or something.
Because Dragon is a kaijin so they don't used the tech, he used Delta Gear once to **** around and prove a point that he's better than the hero.

Some belts in question is more of a manifestation of their power like Wizard and his magic, Kuuga and his sealing energy, Hibiki and his oni fire along with his instrumental exorcist art, Kiva straight up has a living demon as a belt.
 
Because Dragon is a kaijin so they don't used the tech, he used Delta Gear once to **** around and prove a point that he's better than the hero.

Some belts in question is more of a manifestation of their power like Wizard and his magic, Kuuga and his sealing energy, Hibiki and his oni fire along with his instrumental exorcist art, Kiva straight up has a living demon as a belt.
I took a closer look and Dragon's body seems to have some mechanical things attached.
 
What are they? Kratos resists mind, soul, concept, memory, probability, vector, madness stuff and deconstruction to a 4-D level. On top of the rest of his hax resistance.
Could you remove Asura and Crona from 6-C, Asura is now 5-B and Crona will be upgraded soon
 
What are they? Kratos resists mind, soul, concept, memory, probability, vector, madness stuff and deconstruction to a 4-D level. On top of the rest of his hax resistance.
the SS 2-C's have 4D (2-C level) Mind, soul, and heat passives.

Also they can passively supernaturally remove the 5 basic senses + the 6th sense characters with regen couldn't regen them back.

They have passive Absorption of a UES energy source which causes loss of consciousness almost instantly (Death soon after). Since its an absorption of a UES source its also draining the targets of their life force, and reducing their stats such as speed, stamina, durability, AP, etc. (Currently this is listed as life manipulation on the profiles)

They have a passive matter destruction (smaller than quarks destruction)

Passive Attack reflection which reflects basically anything intangible or tangible its specifically reflecting "Cosmos" which is a UES energy source in verse

Passive 6th sense which gives them things like Instinctive action, Extrasensory perception, precog/clairvoyance

Passive Paralysis inducement

Thats for all the SS 2-C's

Edit: they also have thought based matter control

Hades though...

He has additionally passive death manipulation

and passive sword abilities (on hit affects) which are Void, and curse manipulation with BFR

+ Immortality and regen negations
 
It's just pretty much accurate to assume Dragon as having a body similar to a dalek. All biological on the inside but with an advanced tech armour covering their biology.
Nope, Oprhnoc is basically advance human. They don't wear "armour" since their form take some characteristic of animal or mythical creature.

Don't try to refute it, I literally watch the damn show.
 
the SS 2-C's have 4D (2-C level) Mind, soul, and heat passives.

Also they can passively supernaturally remove the 5 basic senses + the 6th sense characters with regen couldn't regen them back.
You don't regenerate senses though so it makes sense they didn't regen back. And the number of universes affected for 4-dimensional hax doens't matter.

Course Kratos resists this so it's not an issue (what is 4-D heat lol?).
They have passive Absorption of a UES energy source which causes loss of consciousness almost instantly (Death soon after). Since its an absorption of a UES source its also draining the targets of their life force, and reducing their stats such as speed, stamina, durability, AP, etc. (Currently this is listed as life manipulation on the profiles)
Kratos resists Absorption, even of life force and magic, that's tied into one's physical statistics.
They have a passive matter destruction (smaller than quarks destruction)
4-D deconstruction resistance ftw.
Passive Attack reflection which reflects basically anything intangible or tangible its specifically reflecting "Cosmos" which is a UES energy source in verse
Sounds like a game of piggy back with Kratos' own Attack Reflection.
Passive 6th sense which gives them things like Instinctive action, Extrasensory perception, precog/clairvoyance
Things Kratos has and has dealt with.
Passive Paralysis inducement
He's protected from general interaction by a 4-D type 1 concept so this shouldn't be an issue. Plus, he has powers that work via thoughts (specifically his powers from Hades and Ares).
Thats for all the SS 2-C's

Edit: they also have thought based matter control

Hades though...

He has additionally passive death manipulation
Kratos resists death manipulation (via sex but we don't talk about that.
and passive sword abilities (on hit affects) which are Void, and curse manipulation with BFR

+ Immortality and regen negations
Might be an issue but Kratos would rely on his skill, instincts and the fact he sees through all conflict across time and space to be aware of this.
 
You don't regenerate senses though so it makes sense they didn't regen back.
normally this results in an incap

And the number of universes affected for 4-dimensional hax doens't matter. Course Kratos resists this so it's not an issue
The level of their hax scales to their AP but thats only for a few haxes not all of their haxes.

(what is 4-D heat lol?).
yeah the level of heat/temperature increases with the level of cosmo the user has.



Sounds like a game of piggy back with Kratos' own Attack Reflection.
is it passive out of curiosity?

Things Kratos has and has dealt with.
they might be things they dealt with before, but that instinctive action will be a bit of a problem. Maybe not a winning problem though. It alerts them to danger, and then helps give them the best solution to counter it.

He's protected from general interaction by a 4-D type 1 concept so this shouldn't be an issue. Plus, he has powers that work via thoughts (specifically his powers from Hades and Ares).
okay that might be a problem lol. Currently on profile they don't have anything on Concepts.

Kratos resists death manipulation (via sex but we don't talk about that.
like... does he have to actively be... doing the dirty to resist it??? ngl thats weird but funny lmao

Might be an issue but Kratos would rely on his skill, instincts and the fact he sees through all conflict across time and space to be aware of this.
they have Acauslaity so im not sure seeing through all conflicts will help here, but the BFR removes you from the multiverse and BFR's you into a realm of nothingness beyond it. technically removed from samsara so its actually a lot more broken but that for a future CRT
 
normally this results in an incap


The level of their hax scales to their AP but thats only for a few haxes not all of their haxes.
Noted then.
yeah the level of heat/temperature increases with the level of cosmo the user has.
OK but like what temp is this? You can't just slap "4-D heat" in this case. Does it reach Planck level? The core of the Sun? A microwave? Does it melt space etc.
is it passive out of curiosity?
Nah but near instinctive.
they might be things they dealt with before, but that instinctive action will be a bit of a problem. Maybe not a winning problem though. It alerts them to danger, and then helps give them the best solution to counter it.
Yeah. Granted Ares saw ever fight ever and died and this same Kratos can evolve past powers like time manipulation, precognition, causality manipulation etc. so it wouldn't be much of an issue.
like... does he have to actively be... doing the dirty to resist it??? ngl thats weird but funny lmao
Nah. He had sex with twins that instantly killed anyone else who did and didn't notice until they told him.
they have Acauslaity so im not sure seeing through all conflicts will help here, but the BFR removes you from the multiverse and BFR's you into a realm of nothingness beyond it. technically removed from samsara so its actually a lot more broken but that for a future CRT
It works on even the gods of Olympus, who generally have Types 1 and 4 Acausality. That BFR is an issue but it has to get past a concept that disperses even conceptual entities that try to touch him.
 
Noted then.

OK but like what temp is this? You can't just slap "4-D heat" in this case. Does it reach Planck level? The core of the Sun? A microwave? Does it melt space etc.

Its shown and stated that if AP (with author statement and their own inverse explanation) increases due to "level of ones comso" so does the level of heat. It is ficition so anything is possible including 4-D heat. But it is at the very minimum infinite-heat. its a UES relationship Cosmo has with AP, Speed, Stamina, Durability, and hax with hax resistance.

Nah but near instinctive.

Hades can reflect something back and what is reflect will be stronger than before but that aspect of the reflection is active. the act of strengthening what is being reflected is active.

It works on even the gods of Olympus, who generally have Types 1 and 4 Acausality. That BFR is an issue but it has to get past a concept that disperses even conceptual entities that try to touch him.

yeah anything conceptaul will be a problem

will that protect him from his 6 senses being removed?
 
Its shown and stated that if AP (with author statement and their own inverse explanation) increases due to "level of ones comso" so does the level of heat. It is ficition so anything is possible including 4-D heat. But it is at the very minimum infinite-heat.
Like, everything upscales with magic in God of War but we don't give Ymir or Sutr infinite heat.

But if this logic is used then Kratos can withstand Primordial fires, which are sourced from the higher-dimensional primordials like Chaos and Surtr.
Hades can reflect something back and what is reflect will be stronger than before but that aspect of the reflection is active. the act of strengthening what is being reflected is active.
Noted then. That said, his attacks here are wielding Hope to destroy his foes so unless Hades can deflect a Type 1 concept, this isn't an issue.
will that protect him from his 6 senses being removed?
The same as before. Hope is imbued and embodied in him, which makes him impossible to hurt no matter what by the likes of even Fear Zeus. Nothing he had (from power nullification to soul extraction to the same mind/soul/concept destruction Kratos had etc.) would do anything and it could just do nothing but be dispelled.
 
The same as before. Hope is imbued and embodied in him, which makes him impossible to hurt no matter what by the likes of even Fear Zeus. Nothing he had (from power nullification to soul extraction to the same mind/soul/concept destruction Kratos had etc.) would do anything and it could just do nothing but be dispelled.
Can it nullify abilities like the passive reflection because this is starting to look like either incon, or kratos would win to me.
 
My 3 favorite Battle Shounen fighting each other, nooooo.

I am sure Mukuro can beat Law but loses to Asura, while Law vs Asura is a lot harder to get but i think it's either an incon or Asura wins.
Removed Asura as he's 5-B now, Mukuro vs Law can happen for their spot in 6-C since Crona will be getting upgraded to High 6-B.
 
Can it nullify abilities like the passive reflection because this is starting to look like either incon, or kratos would win to me.
It nullifies all that can be done to it in the Greek World, seeing as it predates it, is the greatest force there and even Zeus with his powers surpassing the pantheon being left helpless.
 
It nullifies all that can be done to it in the Greek World, seeing as it predates it, is the greatest force there and even Zeus with his powers surpassing the pantheon being left helpless.
so it only nullifies things that could potentially harm or interact with it in some way?

Is there any other way for Kratos to get passed the attack reflection?

Can he resist sealing, or sleep manipulation?

Also how far into 2-C does he scale too?
 
so it only nullifies things that could potentially harm or interact with it in some way?
It nullifies anything that affects him generally, yeah.
Is there any other way for Kratos to get passed the attack reflection?
By attacking with a Type 1 concept?
Can he resist sealing, or sleep manipulation?
If he can seal Hope then nah. Sleep he does resist.
Also how far into 2-C does he scale too?
9 universes.
 
I took a closer look and Dragon's body seems to have some mechanical things attached.
all orphnoches like Dragon is entirely biological, their mechanical-like exterior is just how they body look.
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I see. But the real question is. Does he start off with it in a fight when going up against a non-kamen rider?
You means does he start with his Orphnoch form when he's starting the fight?
unless it's stated otherwise, if the title of the match is Dragon Orphnoch vs [insert character names here] then Kitazaki is already in his orphnoch form.
But then again, I dont think it would be any difference, orphnoch's human forms are just them wearing human skins, their biology remain unchange.
 
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Yes, it's his way of showing that he's superior to other, that his evolution is greater than anything man can have.
Even against those that are 2 times weaker than him? I mean for the most part. All the fights that involves him on YouTube we're all just his base form. His dragon form no where to be seen for some odd reason.
 
Even against those that are 2 times weaker than him? I mean for the most part. All the fights that involves him on YouTube we're all just his base form. His dragon form no where to be seen for some odd reason.
There are plenty of times when he used it, but most of the memorable scenes are in his armored form.

We saw him used Dragon Form for the first time when Faiz goes into Accel form for the kill, only to get immediately counter.
 
Damn, you know a tier is barren when we jump from Touhou to Crocodile
Crocodile unironically has some shit going for him in a 1 on 1 seeing as his Elemental Intangibility makes him nigh-on impossible to properly hit and having two instant-kills is just a cherry on the cake

And since Water(or any form of liquid) Manipulation is shockingly rare his weaknesses are a pain in the ass to take advantage of
 
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