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Let's just wait for more feats from Megicula, all sings on heaven and earth show us that he's going to be far stronger than Word Devil
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Toneri(5-C) vs Fairy Heart Zeref(High 6-A)
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OP could deal with Zeref better than the Naruto verse with speed unequal. Lots of BFR there
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Speaking of One Piece and Naruto...….
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Oh god.
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Oh god oh ****
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What?
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https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3700684
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I have doubts Black Clover surpassing Yhwach or the Soul King
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AgreedMrDrProfessorPatricio said:
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Almighty too OP.MrDrProfessorPatricio said:
on topic : Zeref yeet toneri into the shadow realm .
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It's a stomp. Toneri can't perma kill Zeref while Zeref only needs 1 move
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So its sleep manip. But will Toneri go for the sleep in a random encounter with no knowledge to the opponent? Zeref will always start Death hax no matter what. It's clearly a stomp for me
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Not again the same "he doesn't do that therefore it's a stomp" card.
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Moritzva add new definition for stomp https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3647500
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Uh ... that thread also has the majority supporting that one side doesnt have a wincon and its still not a stomp. Not exactly what you want to use to support your stance.
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Toneri going for the sleep hax in a random encounter and no knowledge is literally 0% and Zeref always start with death hax
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From the Stomp thread wiki page:
Each combatant's in-character mindset and tactics do not necessarily qualify or disqualify a match from being a stomp, and should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis when determining whether or not a match falls under said category. Generally speaking however, if a character in a match has to perform or use techniques in ways they have never shown to do in order to possibly win, the chances of that match being a stomp are quite high.
Unlike a match which is decisive in one character's favor, stomp matches very rarely leave any room for debate, with their outcomes coming across as predictable to anyone with even cursory knowledge of the combatants and their abilities.
Each combatant's in-character mindset and tactics do not necessarily qualify or disqualify a match from being a stomp, and should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis when determining whether or not a match falls under said category. Generally speaking however, if a character in a match has to perform or use techniques in ways they have never shown to do in order to possibly win, the chances of that match being a stomp are quite high.
Unlike a match which is decisive in one character's favor, stomp matches very rarely leave any room for debate, with their outcomes coming across as predictable to anyone with even cursory knowledge of the combatants and their abilities.
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Unless you give Toneri knowledge then it's debatable
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After the big downgrade with Naruto get(in Ap,DC and Speed) im not even anymore sure if Naruto is the second or in thrid place. In a unequal speed fight they lose almost to everyone on this list in the speed who has also hax ability to one shot. Yes they have still the second largest Ap on this list yet their speed is really underwhelming compare to the others. So far Bleach is right now the first on this list, after probably Fairy tail and then One Piece/Naruto(speed is major factor). The last is probably NnT who probably get a upgrade aswell after the last chapter. Hard to tell but I would say Bleach and Fairy tail verse are right now on the top of this list.SpookyShadow said:
For this fight Zeref stomps Toneri via speed and hax ability.
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Depends on what your rating everything on^ if it's based on Hax FT isn't stronger than Naruto.
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Bleach is the obvious first place it's as haxed as JoJo if not more
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Speed and hax wise Fairy tail has the upperhand against Naruto. And we know Fairy tail verse(at least the top tiers) are all based on hax in combination with power. With the current upgrade for Fairy tail and their speed advantage I see them above the Naruto verse. I don´t see White Zeref losing against any Top/God tier in Naruto in a 1on1 battle with his hax and speed advantage.AstralKing7 said:
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zeref's death manip is projectile based, how woul dhe get past truth seeking orbs?
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Is it? People tell that it's thought based
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none of the abilities shows thought based death hax, they all have a medium in which they attack from. Also Toneri can use his orb to absorb his death magic and then it would blast zeref with his own energy.
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Death hax is projectile based, yes. Sometimes it's an orb, sometimes a wave or sometimes a bunch of pillars grabbing the opponent.
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It's Gesture based, not thought based, and yeah he spawns projectiles on top of people to kill them.
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ok but again toneri has orbs that absorb energy, zeref's magic wont get to activate.
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this death magic FRA was lazy to read just saying.
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I vote Toneri via absorbing and powernulling Zeref's magic and eventually just putting him to sleep.
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Zeref resists power null and has his own absorbtion abilities.
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it does not matter whohe only used it on, and his death hax would never get past the absorption or power null. He can absorb but 5-C is above him. and 5-C power null > High 6-A or lower.
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Even if he nulls zeref death hax from a distance, zeref still has many more ways he can beat Toneri, such as Teleporting up to him and hiting him point blank with death hax, or Time stop.
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Yes it will.Rocker1189 said:
Death Coated Punches, Death Blast that spawns on opponent, Death Cage that spawns around opponent.
And it's not a delayed reaction (Unless Zeref wants it) you touch it, you die.
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Scan?Zackra1799 said:
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It's off panel but the reasoning is because Keyes couldn't null Zeref's magic with his Magic Barrier ParticalsThe Calaca said:
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