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As the pages for tokyo ghoul currently are, they do not reflect the actual showings from the characters in the manga

Dragon​


Dragon (Kaneki’s fourth key) is rated at city level for causing a massive earthquake originating from 5 kilometers below Tokyo.
Ken Kaneki | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom

User blog:NikHelton/Tokyo Ghoul total revision | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom

However, the high high end was accepted, when it was suggested by DMUA that the low end be used, which for some reason was ignored.

Screenshot_2021-01-16_233050.png (688×100) (discordapp.com)

The low end is 612 Kilotons of TNT, Large Town

The OP attempted to use the devastation of Tokyo's surface seen in chapter 163 to justify a possible higher end. The problem is this was caused by its rampage on the surface over night, not via the initial earthquake:
Tokyo Ghoul:re Chapter 145 (mangasee123.com)

Furthermore, the explosion calc on Dragon’s Key is inflated. A member of the calc team redid the calc in the comment section, getting Small Town
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U..._total_revision?commentId=4400000000001043578

Town level is also far more narratively consistent as well, as overtime it’s volume would expand tenfold:
3.jpg (1115×1600) (read7deadlysins.com)

At this hypothetical level it is stated that it could destroy Tokyo, but it was dispersed before it could grow more.
0149-010.png (1115×1600) (granpulse.us)
0149-011.png (1115×1600) (granpulse.us)

Tldr, Kaneki’s fourth key should be changed to: Large Town level, higher overtime

The link to the explosion should be changed to jasonsith’s calc, and the earthquake calc page can remain as is, as it includes the large town calc.

Kaneki destroying dragon “mechanisms”​

The justification used for Kaneki’s 5th key.
User blog:NikHelton/"Tokyo Ghoul" lvl up | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom (last calc)

The fourth calc here technically should be lower than small town
It looks like the tentacles are directed away from the PoV, but it's measuring them as though they're angled horizontally parallel to it

I made a new calc:
User blog:Cyberblader9/Kaneki destroys dragon v2 | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom

The calc has been accepted:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...troys_dragon_v2?commentId=4400000000002059105

The high end should be used, as kagune flesh (what dragon is made of) is stated to be as hard as steel:
0001-037.png (1115×1600) (granpulse.us)

The high end is 406.45 tons of TNT, Multi City Block

Furthermore, this was done via replicating touka’s kagune, which upon activation releases a shockwave far stronger than the kagune itself
Kaneki’s example
The shockwave: 0177-012.png (2133×1530) (granpulse.us)
His regular kagune and durability in comparison:
0177-007.png (1115×1600) (granpulse.us)
0177-008.png (1115×1600) (granpulse.us)

Touka’s Example:
Shockwave:
0084-010.png (1115×1600) (granpulse.us)
0084-011.png (2133×1530) (granpulse.us)

In comparison, one of the weapons her shockwave stopped can pierce her uncle Renji Yomo with no resistance. He is stronger and more durable than she is.
0086-010.png (1115×1600) (granpulse.us)

Tdlr, Kaneki’s fifth key should just be:
CIty Block (far stronger than eto), Multi City Block with kagune shockwave.

Kaneki’s durability for his fifth key likewise should be changed to city block as well

As such, Furuta’s second key should be changed to City Block for ap and durability, as he was not exposed to this move

Edit:
I've seen people on discord argue that kaneki destroying the dragon mechanisms can be more impressive than the proposed calcs suggest, due to dragon being completely unharmed by tank fire
Imgur: The magic of the Internet

The problem is that this was Prime dragon, before being split into oviducts.

This doc explains what that entails in full detail:

Eto and characters who scale to her​

Eto’ second key is currently scaled to small town for destroying a steel compactor

Eto Yoshimura | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom
“Casually obliterated a gigantic compactor made out of Quinque steel.”

User blog:NikHelton/Eto destroys the steel compactor | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom

There are a few issues with this. Eto did not destroy “obliterate” the compactor, only separating into large pieces and leaving some of those slightly bent and cracked.
0075-002.png (2133×1530) (granpulse.us)
Screenshot_2021-01-15_114213.png (1275×887) (discordapp.com)
ox9YnYS.jpg (875×248) (imgur.com)

Secondly the calc is inflated. It’s measuring the people way in the back as if they’re on the same plane as the compactor, and then comparing the destroyed area directly, which leads to an inflated size.

Just eyeballing it I would think 30% hollowness is also too low. There’s a ton of empty space there, plus most of the material isn’t even destroyed despite the calc measuring it as if the entire volume was fragmented, which it observably isn’t.

Also, since the pieces of the compactor are intact, fragmentation cannot be used.

Edit:
I have removed the city block calc and the suggestions, as that calc is also unusable (exlpained in the crt below)

Instead the current protocol is to use the currently accepted building scaling from saiko and upscale from there.

Suggested edits will be at the end of this, as a doc.


Other Revisions:​

Roma Second Key​


Roma Hoito | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom
Roma should get a second key for her kakuja

Her kakuja is rated sss even currently, putting her in the same league as eto and yoshimura
0135-008.png (1115×1600) (granpulse.us)

Urie breaking her kakuja should be considered an outlier for him, as he did it without framing out, and was consistently shown to be be inferior to her kakuja:
0135-007.png (1115×1600) (granpulse.us)
0136-017.png (1115×1600) (granpulse.us)
0136-018.png (1115×1600) (granpulse.us)

Urie in base when he does the outlier:
0137-002.png (2133×1530) (granpulse.us)
0137-003.png (1115×1600) (granpulse.us)

As such, her second should be:
Attack Potency: Building, Possibly Higher (Is on the same league as Eto and Yoshimura)

Durability: Building, Possibly Higher

Shachi Revision​


Matasaka Kamishiro (Shachi) | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom
Shachi’s keys need to be changed. First key should be building with kagune, as he beat kaneki while he had his kagune active. Second needs to be downgraded, as the justification given is not in reference to kakuja seidou or amon, but rather their base states.

First key should be:
Attack Potency: Wall level (Comparable, if not superior, to other ghouls, defeated Kaneki while neither while using their Kagune), Building level while using his Kagune (Defeated Kaneki when both were using their Kagune, and was stated to be holding back)

Durability: Wall level, Building level while using his Kagune

Second key:
Attack Potency: Small building level+ (Destroyed a concrete bridge with a punch), Building Level, possibly higher with Kagune (Called the second most dangerous enemy of the CCG, which puts him on the same danger level as Base Amon and Seido)

Durability: Small Building level+, Building level, possibly higher with Kagune


Donato Downgrade​

Donato Porpora | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom
Donato needs to be downgraded, as he only fought base part 2 Amon, not his kakuja form

Attack Potency: Wall level physically (comparable if not superior to other ghouls), Building level, possibly higher with Kagune (His clone easily overpowered both Urie and Higemaru, compare with Amon)

Durability: Wall level, Building, possibly higher with Kagune


Final Note
Striking strength would need to be changed to reflect the new stats for each character.

Here is my recommended edits:


That's it for ap revisions
 
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Okay, so basically all the calcs are poorly managed and you managed to find ways to sort this mess, I find the changes fine.
 
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its moreso they were already accepted in the format i showed here, but the highest ends were used for some reason (highest ends werent accepted)
 
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I've seen people on discord argue that kaneki destroying the dragon mechanisms can be more impressive than the proposed calcs suggest, due to dragon being completely unharmed by tank fire
Imgur: The magic of the Internet

The problem is that this was Prime dragon, before being split into oviducts.

This doc explains what that entails in full detail:
 
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Here are my recommended edits if this revision is accepted. I also added them to the op at the end:
 
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so massive update:
it has come to my that attention that even the alternative calc that was accepted for eto is unusable.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:NikHelton/"Tokyo_Ghoul"_lvl_up (3rd calc)

The scaling they use is inflated. It’s measuring the people way in the back as if they’re on the same plane as the compactor, and then comparing the destroyed area directly, which leads to an inflated size

The other issue is that it doesn’t seem like all of the mass of the compactor is being physically launched up.

The pistons got 220,000 ton, which they are obviously not.
ox9YnYS.jpg (875×248) (imgur.com)

The feat in general has too many unknowns. we dont know how much of the compactor she lifted, how high she lifted them, or her staring position for the feat.

instead, i propose the usage of this feat:
User blog:Cyberblader9/Eto makes a shockwave | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom

I got 2 tons for this, Large Building

I require this to get checked though by a calc member
 
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Is there anyone from the calc team we can call

I already put the calc for evaluations as well but the faster it can be processed the better
 

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The compactor calculation could probably be re-done, but I agree that it's operating on the idea that they are on the same plane in the visual when they are not, it would be better to get an accurate measurement of Eto herself from another scan if possible and compare that to the compactor.

If your shockwave calculation is accepted, then the other changes look pretty straightforward.
 
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Compactor would prob get large building as well, maybe very low end city block.

Only thing that could be used is maybe the pieces going up about half her height. The problem is that the height of her kakuja form is extremely inconsistent in the manga
 
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If the shock wave does end up getting rejected I guess we could end up just upscaling from building as a temporary placeholder until I can get the compactor thing calced properly
 
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in the mean time, wanted to let it be known that hypersonic might be possible to restore on the profiles in the near future. Found a decent speed feat
 
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It was an overpressure formula. Pixel scale is going to be hard, as we don't know the exact point the blast finished at nor is eto's size in the manga consistent at all.

I can use a shot from the anime where her monster form is juxtapose to some floors of a skyscraper

I can also start working on an alternative calc for the compactor if I get measurements for her size from that scene
 
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Update:
I did a calc for the compactor. Its building level or lower. Its potentially higher, but its impossible to calc due to many unknowns
 
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Eto's shockwave also seems to be small building from what I've heard from friends.

Im fine with proceeding from upscaling from building from saiko, which is currently accepted.
 
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Ill re write the suggested edits and fix the op

Edit: i have edited the op with the new suggestion. Will now change the justifications
 
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The compactor calculation could probably be re-done, but I agree that it's operating on the idea that they are on the same plane in the visual when they are not, it would be better to get an accurate measurement of Eto herself from another scan if possible and compare that to the compactor.

If your shockwave calculation is accepted, then the other changes look pretty straightforward.
Both calcs would only get building or lower. I have instead chosen to use the already accepted building tiering used with saiko.

here are the new suggested edits:

"building, possibly higher" is from scaling to Amon, who massively upscales above saiko.

If you are fine with this, page editing can begin
 
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@Abstractions Cyber is waiting for your input since this post:
Both calcs would only get building or lower. I have instead chosen to use the already accepted building tiering used with saiko.

here are the new suggested edits:

"building, possibly higher" is from scaling to Amon, who massively upscales above saiko.

If you are fine with this, page editing can begin
 

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thanks. Is there any change that doesnt look ok?
Kaneki's 8-A is phrased as just for his shockwaves, however should it not just be "8-A with Kagune" as they are the direct cause? Might just be a nitpick on the phrasing but it doesn't hurt to clarify.
 
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Done, I edited it
I'd wait for calc group input, I'm quite sure that the clashing of two characters doing a feat doesn't have its result halved as the two had to endure it right at the epicenter, and they can harm each other, so I don't think it needs to be halved to be accurate.
 

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I'd wait for calc group input, I'm quite sure that the clashing of two characters doing a feat doesn't have its result halved as the two had to endure it right at the epicenter, and they can harm each other, so I don't think it needs to be halved to be accurate.
The two are only enduring the opposite's force, it's only the combined force of the two that causes the shaking, which they don't need to withstand twice the amount for.
 
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I think large building. The way I framed the calc makes it seem its the one i set up as the only useable one

i didnt frame it as " choose this end"
 

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Well, any experienced member who knows how to edit properly is fine.
 
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I do personally think it should scale to durability at least when using the wings. He was point blank in the shockwave he produced which is what gets multi-city block.
 
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I guess keeping the thread open has been a good thing because I may have just found a decent way to get a higher value for the compactor feat.

Will post in about an hour
 
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