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Kaneki Profile Rework

Reread what I said and reread the page cuz in no way does it have to mean he solely used the umbrella to win.
Go up and read what I said originally, whether or not he kills the ghoul doesn't matter much to me anymore, my original question was how the umbrella can sustain the force of Arima's strikes, you said that's not typically shown in fiction, I then bring up an inverse example of Kaneki's knife breaking against his body, you then said :
I guess it can be dismissed since we just dont know how he used it to beat the ghoul.
 
Go up and read what I said originally, whether or not he kills the ghoul doesn't matter much to me anymore, my original question was how the umbrella can sustain the force of Arima's strikes, you said that's not typically shown in fiction, I then bring up an inverse example of Kaneki's knife breaking against his body, you then said :
To be fair, the knife didn't like, crumble from Kaneki's grip force or anything. The handle and the base of the blade was still mostly intact, the main damage came from stabbing himself. Most media isn't going to show normal weapons crumbling under the force of superhuman attacks because most authors just don't consider the ramifications of inhuman characters handling objects meant for normal humans. I think the umbrella not just shattering from Arima's attacks can just be considered PIS.
 
Go up and read what I said originally, whether or not he kills the ghoul doesn't matter much to me anymore, my original question was how the umbrella can sustain the force of Arima's strikes, you said that's not typically shown in fiction, I then bring up an inverse example of Kaneki's knife breaking against his body, you then said :
Yeah this is why I said reread what I said cuz you likely missed it.
He just says they took it out. Not that he killed it. Could easily have just used it for parrying then beat it down with his other hand or kicks
You're thinking Arima just used the umbrella to whack the Ghoul to death. We all know normal weapons don't work to kill or harm. So Arima likely just used it for parrying or distraction like Sakamoto lmao
 
Yeah so there's a trick to it. Why would Kaneki know this trick?
I wouldn't call the use of crushing/blunt impacts something that requires some thought. Moreover, it should definitely be taught in investigator training. Just remember how Kaneki knocked out Bin's brother with a lamppost. It's the same thing.
 
@Foriaa, I guess we can remove the weapon enhancement, right? This still doesn't cancel out the fact that if Arima picks up a regular sword in a fight with someone, it will still be powerful blows
 
Swear the average ghoul is cratering walls and doing many other superhuman stuff, I'm not sure how Arima is parrying one with a weak ahh umbrella, I did remove it though.
 
I wouldn't call the use of crushing/blunt impacts something that requires some thought. Moreover, it should definitely be taught in investigator training. Just remember how Kaneki knocked out Bin's brother with a lamppost. It's the same thing.
Doesn't matter what you call it, Kaneki has never done it and has no reason to know how. Also, if that's your argument, why are we portraying this like something needed on page "they can use anything to kinda maybe hurt Ghouls just gotta do it a certain way" aka meaningless if the story also treats it like that. If the lamppost just knocked them out then that's blunt force and not piercing which seems more to be the feat of Ghouls bodies.
 
@Foriaa, I guess we can remove the weapon enhancement, right? This still doesn't cancel out the fact that if Arima picks up a regular sword in a fight with someone, it will still be powerful blows
You don't need to remove it outright. I don't see why Kaneki, as someone directly trained by Arima and acknowledged to be the closest person to replicating his quinque techniques, would be unaware of a trick that someone like Kuroiwa can use to make normal weapons hurt ghouls.
 
Swear the average ghoul is cratering walls and doing many other superhuman stuff, I'm not sure how Arima is parrying one with a weak ahh umbrella, I did remove it though.
Bro, we have the asphalt that killed Kanae, even though Arima survived a fall from a multi-story building. We have the metal rod that pierced Uta.
It's just Ishida's schizophrenia.
 
You don't need to remove it outright. I don't see why Kaneki, as someone directly trained by Arima and acknowledged to be the closest person to replicating his quinque techniques, would be unaware of a trick that someone like Kuroiwa can use to make normal weapons hurt ghouls.
Because using a sword as an object for blunt blows is no different from how Kaneki defeated Bin with a lamppost before the torture.
 
Overall, I agree with keeping the weapon enhancements, but only the Kuroiwa example works. As for Arima, he threatened Haise with a pen because he knows his opponent's weak points and how to attack them.
 
Wow, this is amazing work. Finally, Kaneki's key from the first manga has become clear. I agree with all the new additions and abilities

As for the discussion about the weapon above, it makes sense. Kuroiwa cut through a kagune with his sword. He probably didn't do that to Shikorae's body because brute force and grappling were enough for him, but when defending against a kagune, he had to give it his all. I also agree with Azontr and Foriaa — Haise, as Arima's best student, should possess this skill
 
I could've sworn this is after she got beat down brutally by Kaneki.
I mean, you're not wrong. Kaneki did beat the crap out of her before she eventually fell to her death, but fall damage in fiction is treated weirdly anyways.
 
Just an observation, the profile starts with the Post-Aogiri Arc. Shouldn't he have a key covering his stats before that arc as well? Even if he's not too impressive, it's odd to skip the start of the series.
 
Not really? I mean, his stats were always strong, he just needed the mindset.
I think we'd have to calc some stuff to get his AP, most of the stuff right now uses later p1 calcs that he wouldn't scale to BoS, or we can perhaps downscale him to some. He'll probably have basic Ghoul Phys with some martial arts?
 
Just an observation, the profile starts with the Post-Aogiri Arc. Shouldn't he have a key covering his stats before that arc as well? Even if he's not too impressive, it's odd to skip the start of the series.
This is based on the RC factor. We'll add scans a bit later, but for now we'd like to wait for the moderators
 
I think we'd have to calc some stuff to get his AP, most of the stuff right now uses later p1 calcs that he wouldn't scale to BoS, or we can perhaps downscale him to some. He'll probably have basic Ghoul Phys with some martial arts?
Half of Kaneki's matches are Part 1. He's pretty good at that. But Haise has never really been used in matches.
 
I think we'd have to calc some stuff to get his AP, most of the stuff right now uses later p1 calcs that he wouldn't scale to BoS, or we can perhaps downscale him to some. He'll probably have basic Ghoul Phys with some martial arts?
No, I mean like, Post-Aogiri Kaneki isn't Kaneki just growing massively stronger. He always had that level of raw power. Hallucination Rize pretty much says that the only reason Kaneki didn't just kill Yamori immediately is because he was a wuss. He always had the hardware necessary to be strong, he just needed the software.
 
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