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I had a brain aneurysm reading that.The way MonkeMan acts like he debate when in actuality his "arguments" consist of failed jokes and memes makes me think he's just some dude who hasn't passed the first grade.
My point exactly.I had a brain aneurysm reading that.
?rage quit the thread
Brother says argument as if this wasn't the bullshit he's been sending for the past couple hoursargument
You're still waffling? Shush.
The way Kachon acts like he doesn't know shit about the verse and characters makes me think he's just some dude who reads OP for Sanji's feats.
It's as if you don't read any part of One Piece that doesn't have Sanji in it, truly despicable behavior.
I'm done here, I voted Luffy and if there's reasonable opposition that contradicts the main arguments for Luffy then I'll reconsider.In all seriousness, can we focus on the debate instead of these childish insults, pls?
I still won't be your valentines no matter how hard you harass me.Brother says argument as if this wasn't the bullshit he's been sending for the past couple hours
Also, Luffy FRA.
Leave please. You've already voted. Sending random shit to clutter the thread isn't helping either side. If you have nothing to add, stop sending messages.I'm done here
Hop off.Leave please. You've already voted. Sending random shit to clutter the thread isn't helping either side. If you have nothing to add, stop sending messages.
No he can't fight. He'll survive but he can't fight.Also can he still fight when he's just a blob who got blasted to smithereens?
1. DodgeCome to think of it what can Orochi do against Luffy turning his brain to rubber and ******* up his head?
Very interesting.No he can't fight. He'll survive but he can't fight.
Yes he can...?No he can't fight. He'll survive but he can't fight.
How?Yes he can...?
There. Are. No. People. To. Absorb.
Average FRA train npcGin never gave an actual argument as to why either side would win. He just explained some of Luffy's abilities.
please shut up with these shitpost ass responses btw this is hard to watch
This sequence is a better example of that but yeah you are correct.which is highly difficult in the case with Orochi because his body is so malleable-like and can straight up open up giant mouth holes in the center of his body
Grow up holy shit.please shut up with these shitpost ass responses btw this is hard to watch
These seem like fair points.Guys…..shut the **** up…
Anyways, back on topic:
…Orochi FRA…
No but for real. The big issue Luffy has here is that Orochi is damn near 4x stronger and more durable than Luffy. Meaning he’s not doing too much damage while Orochi is doing relatively substantial damage. Not only that but Orochi also has 2x attack reflection and like insane regen. The durability advantage means whatever damage Luffy does manages to do, he would likely be fine thanks to those factors.
Luffy has some good counters like pre cog however Orochi has like an insane amount of highly skilled danmaku which I don’t see Luffy being able to dodge literally 100% of the time. At some point he’d have to retaliate if for nothing else but to block Orochi’s incoming onslaught. And thanks to Orochi’s sizable AP advantage he’d definitely start whittling the dude away.
He’s got some other moves in his arsenal like transmutation as well as durability negation that way, however he’d actually have to first touch or impact some part of Orochi’s body for him to perform those moves which is highly difficult in the case with Orochi because his body is so malleable-like and can straight up open up giant mouth holes in the center of his body and fire melting beams from it. So it’s not like that part of Orochi’s body is really viable for Luffy to physically interact with either.
So Orochi wins for me.
Proof?plus his transmutation
I mean those are still heat blasts 4 times his durability, he might resist the burn but not the attack itself.These seem like fair points.
Though I bet Luffy could take his fire without much problems, plus his transmutation ( he turns him into rubber and stretches him out ) might make him LESS malleable, actually.
It’s not so much the fire burning Luffy but more say being a dangerous area for Luffy to try and attack in general. Cause if Luffy tries to say attack his mid-section, Orochi can just open the mouth he has in his chest and fire a blast attack right back at him right.These seem like fair points.
Though I bet Luffy could take his fire without much problems, plus his transmutation ( he turns him into rubber and stretches him out ) might make him LESS malleable, actually.
You say that it can change shape and form holes and what not, which implies it's like clay or something.I mean those are still heat blasts 4 times his AP, he might resist the burn but not the attack itself.
Also, less malleable? how? has it shown to do that? hell if it turns parts of Orochi's body into rubber similar to Luffy's then that's just giving Orochi an advantage.
He seems quite tricky, I might retract my vote for Luffy but I gotta think about it.It’s not so much the fire burning Luffy but more say being a dangerous area for Luffy to try and attack in general. Cause if Luffy tries to say attack his mid-section, Orochi can just open the mouth he has in his chest and fire a blast attack right back at him right.
When I say malleable it’s cause Orochi’s body is like made up in parts right. Like see how he forms an arm out of multiple snake-dragons.
If Luffy touches like one of those snake things on Orochi’s arm sure it might render it unusable but he has like 100 others he can use to form the rest of his body ya know.
It’s not like Luffy’s totally out of options against the dude but the 4x AP and durability difference really does it for me.He seems quite tricky, I might retract my vote for Luffy but I gotta think about it.
I'll be back in the morning, I'm tired.
I forget about this, yeah Luffy definitely has good wincons on the table so I won't retract my vote just yet.Luffy has passive statistics amp that lines up with every time he laughs, and G5 is like always laughing.