Tier 1 Dragon Ball Is Finally Here, And Hypertimelines Are Back On The Menu! *Visible Groaning Ensues*

[TiltedFN]

It's explained in the blog all the arguments, yet there is a lot of, "well it could be this" without any explicit proof.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Except it does. That second time dimension has to envelop the first one.

Where is that stated?

 

[GarrixianXD]

Zeno is the worst character to use because he would do something that stupid on a whim. He nuked an entire timeline because Zamazu rubbed him the wrong way and was willing to delete the multiverse if they didn't wish for the correct thing in some canons.

I wouldn’t assume something like that simply because they act like a child. They haven’t displayed any lack of intelligence and aliens not being knowledgeable on Earth isn’t anything uncommon.

 

[TiltedFN]

And they say if they didn't make a selfless wish he would've erased all universes.

Does this mean the timeline gets erased because of universe 7? Was beerus going to erase ALL OF EXISTENCE when him and champa were fighting? Or with goku's fight?

 

[Tarang123]

All the macrocoms experience time at the same time. We know this because everyone watched in real time as Zeno erased one

They were outside the multiverse so idk if that holds weight as an argument

 

[Qawsedf234]

Does this mean the timeline gets erased because of universe 7?

Considering Buu destroyed Kami's Lookout without time collapsing there's more to the room than just its physical nature.

They were outside the multiverse so idk if that holds weight as an argument

I wouldn't automatically say that. For example if you're outside of the multiverse but can still see it be erased in real time that could indicate that time is higher dimensional.

 

[Killerdrone123]

Does this mean the timeline gets erased because of universe 7? Was beerus going to erase ALL OF EXISTENCE when him and champa were fighting? Or with goku's fight?

good point

 

[Tarang123]

You have to prove the realms have a different timestream. Saying that a room makes time in a room in the Mortality Realm does not limit it to just the mortal realm when everything moves in a linear fashion

Isn’t it already accepted that a single macrocosm is 2C?

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Considering Buu destroyed Kami's Lookout without time collapsing there's more to the room than just its physical nature.

Yeah that's also a good point.

 

[GarrixianXD]

Every realm in dragon ball has a different timestream. It’s been approved long ago.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Isn’t it already accepted that a single macrocosm is 2C?

They're physically separated universal spaces. Which is why they're each Low 2-C. Even if they had the same time unit it would still be a 2-C space because of that separation.

 

[GarrixianXD]

They're physically separated universal spaces. Which is why they're each Low 2-C. Even if they had the same time unit it would still be a 2-C space because of that separation.

What…

 

[Fixxed]

They were outside the multiverse so idk if that holds weight as an argument

I dont know if this true, but if it true then i think it will likely they use the outside of multiverse's time for perceive the other timelines therefore the ratio of every timelines is 1:1. And isnt that the hypertimeline in here

 

[Qawsedf234]

What…

What are you confused about so i can expand my thoughts? I'm on mobile so I'm prone to making some egregious spelling/grammar errors at times.

 

[Tarang123]

They

I dont know if this true, but if it true then i think it will likely they use the outside of multiverse's time for perceive the other timelines therefore the ratio of every timelines is 1:1. And isnt that the hypertimeline in here

were in the world of void

 

[GarrixianXD]

What are you confused about so i can expand my thoughts? I'm on mobile so I'm prone to making some egregious spelling/grammar errors at times.

Different time flow is what creates multiverses. If those “universes” and “spaces” all have the same time unit then it’ll just be 3-A. Is my interpretation in the wrong?

 

[Deagonx]

I have the same impression as Qawsedf on the matter.

 

[Tarang123]

They're physically separated universal spaces. Which is why they're each Low 2-C. Even if they had the same time unit it would still be a 2-C space because of that separation.

I thought they had to be separate space-times

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

And they say if they didn't make a selfless wish he would've erased all universes.

He already predicted that the winner would make a selfless wish, and if he was proven wrong, he would erase the universes then.

They're physically separated universal spaces. Which is why they're each Low 2-C. Even if they had the same time unit it would still be a 2-C space because of that separation.

physical separation does not create low 2-c spaces.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

I thought they had to be separate space-times

they do.

 

[JJSliderman]

They're physically separated universal spaces. Which is why they're each Low 2-C. Even if they had the same time unit it would still be a 2-C space because of that separation.

BoG Goku is 2-C because each space within the universe is it’s own space time.

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

Considering Buu destroyed Kami's Lookout without time collapsing there's more to the room than just its physical nature.

I said the Time Room was a pocket dimension inside the Living World's space-time continuum adjacent to the lookout. Why do you say Buu must threaten it by affecting the lookout?

Seriously, I put a lot of hard work into explaining the Time Room in my blog. If you have a problem with my reasoning, I'd like for you to explain it. So far, you have only said "I read it and disagreed" with no elaboration. How can we progress in good faith if you can't fulfill your burden of rebuttal?

 

[ImmortalDread]

@Ultima_Reality
@DontTalkDT
Since you both have been extensively quoted by the OP what are your thoughts about the seperate Temporal Dimensions and the DB cosmology being Low 1-C.

If I may ask; are they obligated to provide their thoughts here?

 

[Qawsedf234]

Actually probably better to just call the supporters since this probably won't progress anywhere and just go in a circle:

@Elizhaa @Theglassman12 @Therefir @DemonGodMitchAubin @UchihaSlayer96

It's about a Tier 1 upgrade in case any of you don't want to be involved.

 

[Qawsedf234]

If I may ask; are they obligated to provide their thoughts here?

No, but if they (or the other supporters) don't comment it's currently a 0:1:2 ratio which would stop this from ever getting approval.

 

[TiltedFN]

Considering Buu destroyed Kami's Lookout without time collapsing there's more to the room than just its physical nature.

But it's a pocket dimension that can be entered through the doors, thats like saying the lookout being destroyed also means the ROSAT is also.

 

[ImmortalDread]

No, but if they (or the other supporters) don't comment it's currently a 0:1:2 ratio which would stop this from ever getting approval.

Thank you! I appreciate your clarification; this aligns with my initial understanding as well.

 

[Killerdrone123]

I would say this the time room could simply be the observatory to see the past,present,future of the living world connect and simply used it send people back in time threatening it wont disturb the time dimension of living world and also it is a pocket dimension whose doorway is present in the look out so destroying lookout doesn't mean destroying the time room since it is it's own pocket dimension

 

[Magicomethkuon]

No, but if they (or the other supporters) don't comment it's currently a 0:1:2 ratio which would stop this from ever getting approval.

I think it's been three disagreements actually. You, DeagonX and Maverick.

 

[ImmortalDread]

I do like to see if Deagonx can confirm this first, did he state this anywhere?

 

[Killerdrone123]

I think it's been three disagreements actually. You, DeagonX and Maverick

The only guy who even proposed counter argument is qwasdef and that to he was making arguments against the standard of db cosmology which are accepted on wiki

 

[Qawsedf234]

I think it's been three disagreements actually. You, DeagonX and Maverick.

I've seen him take issue with it but nothing that explicitly said "I disagree with this proposal".

 

[Magicomethkuon]

I have the same impression as Qawsedf on the matter.

Here he agreed with Qawsedf, though I understand if you think a more verbatim vote is necessary.

 

[Maizesoup]

Currently reading the thread, and I think it would be a good idea if Profectus linked the Time Room blog in the disclaimer itself to make it more likely to be read, given how important it is and it containing some solid arguments that I'd be disappointed to not see properly addressed, even if I'm currently neutral.

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

Currently reading the thread, and I think it would be a good idea if Profectus linked the Time Room blog in the post itself, given how important it is and it containing some solid arguments that I'd be disappointed to not see properly addressed, even if I'm currently neutral.

Time Room & Dragon Ball Cosmology

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[ImmortalDread]

Here he agreed with Qawsedf, though I understand if you think a more verbatim vote is necessary.

Oh, alright, I will add it to the staff vote tally!

 

[OrangeFR]

One question, what were the reasons for each "Universe" in DB being a macrocosm?

 

[Maizesoup]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:profectusInfinity/Time_Room_&_Dragon_Ball_Cosmology

Meant in the disclaimer, but fair enough.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Staff Vote Tally​

Agreements​	Neutral​	Disagreements​
None​	DDM (is confused of what exactly being proposed here)​	@Qawsedf234​
		@Maverick_Zero_X​
		@Deagonx​

 

[TiltedFN]

Um, so are you gonna address the time room stuff? You claimed it makes time for the multiverse, so can you go further into that? Because you didn't really counter anything. What about the time room getting destroyed just because the lookout did? Qawsed.