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Tier 0 characters in the new tiering system

Ultima_Reality said:
I plan on revising Twin Peaks myself later down the line, so, don't.
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Ok, Ultima, I have a question about monadhood. If a character has the feature of a monad but there are certain factors that prevent him from qualifying as 0, what tier should he be? Low1-A or not because it has all the features.
 
Tyranno223 said:
Sorry if you're busy but can you look at my LotR suggestions? I summarised my points on the Ainur into two paragraphs.
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Will check.

Gasper said:
This is Kinda unrelated but would this count as Acasuality type 5 for Angels?
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No, because it's referring to their wills and not their existences absolutely.

Hirotoswnn1x said:
Ok, Ultima, I have a question about monadhood. If a character has the feature of a monad but there are certain factors that prevent him from qualifying as 0, what tier should he be? Low1-A or not because it has all the features.
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Would be 1-A at minimum, assuming it broke only the Tier 0 requirements. Probably High 1-A if there's a 1-A cosmology under it.
 
Ultima_Reality said:
No, because it's referring to their wills and not their existences absolutely.
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what does this even mean tho? Are wills like their formless "bodies" made purely from light or is this reffering to something else? Are the wills of Angels Acasual type 5 or does this only scale to God?
 
Gasper said:
what does this even mean tho? Are wills like their formless "bodies" made purely from light or is this reffering to something else? Are the wills of Angels Acasual type 5 or does this only scale to God?
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Means their wills are unchangingly fixed into the highest good (God). They move only towards it, and not towards anything else.
 
Ultima_Reality said:
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So in a verse, everything happens because God made it so it happens.
If this God, Tier 1-A, High 1-A or 0, is the WorId Creator and it created the worId, a non tier-0 construct, through X power, but Iater another character within the series gained the same abiIity and can create the same worId, wouId it stiI be an anti-feat even though the character onIy gained the abiIity because God made it so he gains it?

Asking this since the FAQ states that a character gaining a higher reaIity power, such as a non 1-A char gaining 1-A powers, or ascending to 1-A existence, is not an anti-feat if an aIready 1-A character is invoIved in the other character ascending.
 
I think if there was a fiction based on Hindu mythology like the Journey To The West from Buddhism, the Brahman would likely be Tier 0
 
Phoenks said:
MY predictions....

Possibly The Amaranth (The Elder Scrolls) IDK
Possibly The Magician (Seekers Into The Mystery) IDK
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Alright, let me cook about the Amaranth:

The Godhead is the flowering statehood of Boundless "Zero" which stands beyond CHIM and is the flowering state of zero, in which one does not "transcend" the Aurbis, but does the reverse. The Godhead births all forms of subgradients, which are creational mathematical gradients in which all of creation which is subgradience in a repeated pattern. It's the eternal "I" that dreams up all possibilities and concepts and those who do not fail become unerased and all beings, being beyond all of existence and non existence, with god being outside all but his free consciousness, hallucinating for eternity and entering into a state of eternal hypnagogic sensory deprivation. It cannot be reached alone, for it needs 2 Ruling Kings. The Godhehad has in-dream versions of himself, even viewed as being third person omniscient by ANU, and viewing them as toys to play with, it is everywhere and nowhere and beyond all and below all, all at once. It is said that Anu has become the Godhead after Padomay killed Nir, he “grieved and started to dream”, noted he dreams up platonic spheroids and gibberish. However, all the descriptions of the Godhead, even the ones given by CHIM users are false and nothing to it, as nothing can capture its own essence. For the True Godhead is ANU, not Anu who is the opposite of Padomay, but ANU, God.
 
SCP being completely removed from tier 0, and the site in general, is very refreshing, was honestly such an eye sore to look at.
Seeing The Magician in Tier-0, is also quite nice.
Anyhow, I made a scratch profile for the Self-Reference ENGINE, and why I believe it's tier 0
Of course, I plan on making a verse explanation forum post later down the line, but I'm currently making a Cookie Clicker cosmology document, so it's going to wait
 
VeryGoofyToddler said:
They deleted the Divine Presence profile and there isn't even a Divine Creator one. I haven't done either or. I don't plan to until they accept the revisions.
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I would like to talk to you about the 0 of dc/vertigo/dc jmd. Am I right that overvoid should be 0 in this context
all dual concepts are dissolved into unity
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Encompasses all of creation and all stories that arise from it, perceiving its entirety as an infinitesimal "Flaw" amidst its nothingness
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and YHWH (Vertigo) would be 0 as well as divine presence?
 
Hirotoswnn1x said:
I would like to talk to you about the 0 of dc/vertigo/dc jmd. Am I right that overvoid should be 0 in this context
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Overvoid isn't 0. It's merged with the Crisis Cosmology and in those stories, it's not treated in the same manner that Grant Morrison intended to be. So unless Grant gets his own Cosmology then it's not going to be 0.
Hirotoswnn1x said:
and YHWH (Vertigo) would be 0 as well as divine presence?
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No. He's 1-A.
 
VeryGoofyToddler said:
Overvoid isn't 0. It's merged with the Crisis Cosmology and in those stories, it's not treated in the same manner that Grant Morrison intended to be. So unless Grant gets his own Cosmology then it's not going to be 0.
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I thought it was a different universe.
VeryGoofyToddler said:
No. He's 1-A.
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Why, I thought it would be High1-A since Lucifer and Michael Gabriel
 
Hirotoswnn1x said:
I've seen them talk about Endless High1-A since the new criteria for Lucifer Morningstar data became to the void. Could that be High1-A?
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You mean Endless High 1-A layers? If so, idk about that.

I also checked out of comics so I wouldn't know what this new information is.
 
I mean if anyone deserves High 1-A, it is Lucifer, no doubt.

The funnier logic is that Captain America durability solos all of DC right now.
Building level, High Hyperverse levelwith his shield (Rogers' shield is cast from Proto-Adamantium,[10] an extremely durable steel-Vibranium mixture alloyed with an unknown catalyst.[11] It can endure a blow from Thor with the Odinforce, who only slightly dented it.[12] After Cul Borson broke it, Tony Stark had it repaired and enhanced with Uru metal, making it even more durable.[13] In this new form, it blocked a strike from Thor with the Odinforce[14] and withstood an attack from a Celestial[15])
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The Presence:
High Complex Multiverse level | Hyperverse level
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For years, most people agreed that Lucifer would easily out scale Beyonder, Phoenix, and pretty much 99% Marvel, but here, apparently, he's not even M-Body level for the abstracts.
 
TellingGojira said:
Yeah, there used to be a joke on how no matter how strong your character was, it couldn't beat Elder God-Demobane, even if it was literal fanfiction sludge like this
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Vs debating has become such a brainrot that people are actually starting to create their own characters just for this one specific purpose.

Just today I saw one guy on tik tok defend a literal fan fiction character.
 
Gasper said:
Vs debating has become such a brainrot that people are actually starting to create their own characters just for this one specific purpose.

Just today I saw one guy on tik tok defend a literal fan fiction character.
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Youtube and TikTok powerscaling is an entirely alien world compared to what goes down here.
People get so emotionally attached to characters to verses they haven't even ingested. I almost get a bit annoyed with it truth to be told. Shinza Bansho is one victim of it, that verse is so well written, with so much lore, in-depth characters, cool fights, and plot twists but all it's associated with is Hajun and powerscaling that rised around 2022
The official Shinza reddit and discord hate powerscalers as well which makes it worse
 
Gasper said:
Vs debating has become such a brainrot that people are actually starting to create their own characters just for this one specific purpose.

Just today I saw one guy on tik tok defend a literal fan fiction character.
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The best exempel is Hybrid Mage a powerscaler created this verse and people defend it
 
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