Tier 0 characters in the new tiering system

[Astral_Trinity439]

No.

Yuh

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Yuh

Higher quantities cant reach the next tier at all no matter how absolute the quantity is. An absolute infinity amount of R>F layers is just 1-A+.

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

What tier would an Absolute Infinite amount of True R>F layers/transcendences be?

1A+ because they operate within the framework so basically you can have any layers in 1A.

 

[Karabach-barabach]

What tier would an Absolute Infinite amount of True R>F layers/transcendences be?

1-A+, no buts and no ifs

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Higher quantities cant reach the next tier at all no matter how absolute the quantity is. An absolute infinity amount of R>F layers is just 1-A+.

A single countable infinity already be defining the entire framework of High 1-A, no?
I mean, this is not simpIy adding a Iayer or two above normaI infinity amount of RFs whiIe stiII being in the same set, but adding Iayers above the first set of Infinite RFs entireIy

You can see here that for each higher IeveI of infinity, braces are being added, that is, the smaIIer set is being cIosed and braces are getting added as at each higher IeveI.
of course, the difference here is, that each higher Infinity IeveI of RF wiII see aII the IeveIs beIow as fiction, instead of just being a normal mathematical hierarchy. But the same principle is, the first set would dictate the framework and/or potentiaI hierarchy in said IeveI, and when that set is cIosed, the framework is cIosed as weII, and the framework of High 1-A starts, and so on this continues

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

A single countable infinity already be defining the entire framework of High 1-A, no?
I mean, this is not simpIy adding a Iayer or two above normaI infinity amount of RFs whiIe stiII being in the same set, but adding Iayers above the first set of Infinite RFs entireIy

You can see here that for each higher IeveI of infinity, braces are being added, that is, the smaIIer set is being cIosed and braces are getting added as at each higher IeveI.
of course, the difference here is, that each higher Infinity IeveI of RF wiII see aII the IeveIs beIow as fiction, instead of just being a normal mathematical hierarchy. But the same principle is, the first set would dictate the framework and/or potential hierarchy in said IeveI, and when that set is closed, the framework is cIosed as weII, and the framework of High 1-A starts, and so on this continues

@BestMGQScalerEver In case you still have doubts about this, here is a quote from Ultima during the revisions

Down under, something similar would happen: For qualitative inferiorities, a new tier below 11-C would need to be created. So, this would be for characters that are fiction even to a 3-D reality, as well as beings who are "nonexistent" in a way that indicates inferiority over other things. Hypothetically, a character who is inferor to dimensionality, rather than superior to it, would also fall under this tier.

1-A+ and High 1-A would stay effectively the same. The former would be for an infinite hierarchy of qualitative superiorities. The latter would be for characters who are above the "quality" defining the lower hierarchy altogether, while still working on their own, higher form of qualitative superiority. For example, in Marvel Comics, the omniverse has an infinite hierarchy of dreams-within-dreams in itself, and above that, then, is the Outside, which transcends all forms of reality and dream and yet nevertheless still has its own hierarchy that works on something else entirely

 

[Lord_Zeref_Dragneel]

Maybe can someone ask Ultima to reply here? Only he probably knows cuz he made the tiering system lol

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

@BestMGQScalerEver In case you still have doubts about this, here is a quote from Ultima during the revisions

The "quality" defining the lower hierarchy would also apply to stuff such as inaccessible cardinals of layers like how 1-A is completely above any dimensional quantity. Then High 1-A would be above absolutely any R>F quantity of layers.

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

For high 1A you need words like transcerd,surpass,above any possible layers from a 1A hierarchy anything similar ,so you cant get high 1A by viewing an infinite hierarchy has fiction because it still operating whin the same quality has 1A layers