This ain't no april, FOOL! Rei Ogami vs Natsu Dragneel. Fire users fight for superiority.

[Firephoenixearl]

Pressure points are just assumed to be in all verses.

Similar to how we default to verses having souls instead of not having if shown.

That's a different matter entirely.

 

[RatherClueless]

That's equally bs and hypocritical, tbh. The point of "verse equalizing" is to make sure that characters abilities still work in a vs fight against characters from other verses.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Yes, but verse equalization happens when there is something to equalize in the first place. You equalize "similar" stuff. Not completely different or non existent things.

And the soul and pressure point have nothing to do with equalization. It's about standard verse assumptions, so we assume 1 side unless proven the other.

 

[Davidsteel1]

Natsu nulls via "burning magic", if there is no magic, he cannot affect a power. And unless there is something in verse that would equalize to magic, natsu can't do it.

Once again I will point out your flawed logic. The verse equalisation systems stops being viable when two power systems are so fundamentally different that equalisation is counter intuitive. This isn't the case, both power systems are similar enough that if the word "magic" isn't used they appear almost indistinguishable from one another and as such they are fit to apply.

It is similar to the reason why someone absorbing all your life till you die does not get equalized as a resistance to someone fating you to die despite them "doing the same thing". Because they are using entirely different means to achieve it.

False equivalency, both abilities as mentioned above are defined specifically as to appear similar but fundamentally distinct from one another; they enjoy the benefit of unambiguity. This isn't the case with magic and Rei's powers, the entire reason this argument is even taking place is because there is sufficient crossover and ambiguity in both power systems.

And to answer your question "reliant on medium" means that "he does not affect the powers, he just achieves a similar effect by burning magic".

Sarcasm, my initial point was based on sarcasm. Plus pointing out how nebulous and poorly defined this argument is. Not to mention it's fundamentally hogwash, Rei's powers as you've described them do have a medium, they function via trading life energy, that life energy mentioned is the medium by which these powers function.

Frankly, the arguments levelled here are based around convoluted logic; I could basically smell this coming when the thread was initially opened, coupled with the fact that this is a mismatch that's y I immediately suggested it be closed.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Rei doesn't throw his life as his flame. It consumes life, it is not a medium, it is a sacrifice.

People who literally lack life still use abilities is Code: Breaker.

 

[Zackra1799]

After listening to David Arguments again I also think this is a mismatch a should be closed.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Anyway after all's said and done. Best to close this thread considering Ant said due to the forum move we should avoid serious versus debates.

 

[Schnee_One]

We can still continue this for fun, I don't see the issue.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

You call this fun? ovo

 

[Schnee_One]

For me, IDK about you