This ain't no april, FOOL! Rei Ogami vs Natsu Dragneel. Fire users fight for superiority.

[Zackra1799]

That's technically the same with fairy tail Characters as if the use their magic to much they dies, Lucy's Mom is a good example.

 

[Zackra1799]

He got it by being sent to a Void dimension which EE's your mind body and soul.

 

[Davidsteel1]

It is fueled by their life (if they use their powers too much they'll die). But it doesn't use any medium.

Oh like magic deficiency disease? Where if a mage in FT uses excessive amounts of magic too quickly or are exposed to bane particles (a subatomic material that destroys magic) it can cause them to lose their life?

A bit of a false equivalency there I must admit, was too easy to make. That said it isn't completely false, excessive use and loss of Magic in FT has been warned to cause death, magic itself is caused by bonding ur spirit with that of nature in order to perform miracles. TLDR; they aren't as dissimilar as you'd expect.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

@Zackra

I mean on the level of "gave someone half the power, as such she gave him half of her life span" life based. But then again, it reduces their life, but it doesn't use life as a medium.

About the void dimension? That's not on the profile? It only mentions him briefly resisting EE which isn't even resistance that would matter honestly. Since if he did not give a f about EE he wouldn't have bothered to burn it.

Something i forgot to mention. The blue flame can never be extinguished (amaterasu properties).

 

[Zackra1799]

Burning EE was from a different feat from pre timeskip during his fight with Zero. Tanking EE dimension was during his fight with Midnight, where he broke out of said dimension after some time in there.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Dying from lack of something doesn't mean said thing si life. And by bonding your spirit, ofc you'd die if you used to much, doesn't make it similar to a medium-less ability that is part of life itself. As i said above, giving half of your power to someone literally means "giving half of your life" in Code: Breaker. But as you said, false equivalency.

 

[Zackra1799]

What does Rei open with btw?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Just about anything really. As a kid he opens up with literally everything at once.

In his teen form (which is being used) he opens up with any of his abilities. Whichever he learns in the current battle. Can assume blue fire doe.

Also blue fire can also make him see mirages. Feeling the pain of all those murdered by evil.

 

[Zackra1799]

If he starts with Blue Fire than Natsu throws out a several Kilometer roar and calls it a day as Blue Fire gets yeeted.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

If he starts with Blue Fire than Natsu throws out a several Kilometer roar and calls it a day as Blue Fire gets yeeted.

Several KM roar? What's that supposed to do?

 

[Zackra1799]

Oneshot him with the AP gap.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

With roar?

 

[Davidsteel1]

Are u unfamiliar with what the "roar" is?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Are u unfamiliar with what the "roar" is?

Yes...

 

[Davidsteel1]

Ah, it's just one of Natsu's signature techniques the "Fire dragons roar", he releases a massive torrent of flames from his mouth to nuke everything in front of him

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Is that the snipe thing. That can be dodged.

 

[Davidsteel1]

No the snipe is different, that isn't named; for that he just tracks his opponent and spits a thin stream of flame at them from a few km away

 

[Zackra1799]

TBH, Natsu might just passively yeet Rei with his body heat alone.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

bruh did you really make a natsu match and not know what the roar was or if Natsu's fire resistances came from him burning the fire away

earl read the profile pls

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Anyway why can't Ogami power null this flame or just burn it with blue flame?

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

Anyway why can't Ogami power null this flame or just burn it with blue flame?

1) Cuz there is a guy in FT that has p.null but couldn't null Natsu's flame.

2) Blue fire is the EE one right? Natsu nulls them with his own fire.

 

[Schnee_One]

I thought Stuka never used his null on Natsu? Hence why he doesn't have power null resistance

 

[Davidsteel1]

He did use power null at the BOS, Natsu didn't resist it he just worked around it

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

Didn't Yuka create a barrier that touched with Natsu flame? His Magic is based on Nullification and Natsu's flame would have been extinguished normally, but it didn't.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Natsu beat him by using his flames outside of the barrier to amplify the force of his punches

 

[Firephoenixearl]

2) Ok so, Ogami's flame EE's other flames. Natsu's flame burns other fire. Why are we assuming Natsu's fire wins?

 

[Schnee_One]

His seems stronger from what I can tell

 

[Firephoenixearl]

How?

Both burn fire.

Except one EE's, whereas Natsu's doesn't EE, it just burns "burns magic" which isn't the medium here.

 

[Zackra1799]

Because Natsu's flames resisted EE as he used them in the EE dimension.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

EE dimension affected powers?

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

Natsu beat him by using his flames outside of the barrier to amplify the force of his punches

Ah right, he did use his flame on his elbow. My bad.

 

[Zackra1799]

Midnights regular magic has shown to affect Natsu's flames so a much stronger spell of his, his EE spell, would be able to affect Natsu's flames.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Midnights regular magic has shown to affect Natsu's flames so a much stronger spell of his, his EE spell, would be able to affect Natsu's flames.

Don't think we should assume the dimension makes powers not work/EE's powers unless showed or implied.

Otherwise people like Great Red would have resistance to power erasure because the dude lives in an EE dimension.

 

[Zackra1799]

I mean it's stated to be able to erase your memories, soul, and very being from existence, that includes Natsu's Magic as it's a part of Natsu so his flames should scale.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

As i said, not unless stated. We don't treat it that way.

 

[RatherClueless]

What are even the options?

>Gets erased, so it's not resistant

>Doesn't get erased so we shouldn't assume it affects abilities

Hmmmmmmmmm

 

[Firephoenixearl]

What are even the options?
>Gets erased, so it's not resistant

>Doesn't get erased so we shouldn't assume it affects abilities

Hmmmmmmmmm

The gets erased was for the EE magic.

The doesn't get erased is for the EE dimension. We don't treat EE dimensions as having power erasure unless stated.

 

[RatherClueless]

It's a void that erases "everything" within it. It's simple EE. There is jo reason to assume it wouldn't erase flames, when it erases everything else. You don't need a statement/feat for litterally every single possibility. If you want to spin it that way, is there proof that the blue flames can erase magic? After all, the powers are fundamentally different.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

It's a void that erases "everything" within it. It's simple EE. There is jo reason to assume it wouldn't erase flames, when it erases everything else. You don't need a statement/feat for litterally every single possibility. If you want to spin it that way, is there proof that the blue flames can erase magic? After all, the powers are fundamentally different.

Fair point, it wouldn't need to erase powers to erase flames.

Well still it doesn't say why it would burn Ogami's flame, oh and it bypasses power null btw, all of his flames.

 

[RatherClueless]

It's not necessarily about Natsu burning Rei's flames, but Natsu's flames not being EE-ed. After that it's just a clash of potencies, which Natsu's flames easily win.