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According to Daizenshuu 7: Dragon Ball Encyclopedia - "Special Attack Dictionary", achieving Second Grade Super Saiyan involves concentrating every nerve in the body and channeling Ki throughout the body to inflate the muscles, realizing strength and speed that "surpasses the Super Saiyan wall", as Daizenshuu 2: Story Guide - "Growing Up". By inflating the muscles to their limits, Third Grade Super Saiyan is achieved, drawing its strength out far beyond the limits of Super Saiyan. And, according to the Dragon Ball: The Legendary Manga informational magazines (a.k.a., El Manga Legendario), what forcing the body into Third Grade entails is a ten-times increase in strength from the previous transformation, which is corroborated by the equidistant French transcript.
Now.
Here is the supporting evidence.
As for the validity of The Legendary Manga,, apparently, as per the word of distributor Hachette's (now-defunct) webpage, Shueisha and Bird Studio themselves personally produced the text. Their hands in production possibly suggests the existence of a Japanese transcript, however, this Japanese version has never been recorded or even spoken of definitively on the internet; as of currently, the only versions of this magazine to exist are the official Spanish and French translations, as the figures that the magazines are attached to and the company of Hachette itself are based in France. Still, on top of the aforementioned supposed writing credits, the magazines are officially licensed by Shueisha and Bird Studio, and contain, as far as I know, legitimate interviews from Akira Toriyama, which adds credence to its validity. Though, unlike the Super Saiyan multiplier, which is referenced in the Daizenshuu and the Super Exciting Guide and Kakarot, this statement only exists in this book. But its existence contradicts nothing (aside from the wacky Super Saiyan 2 and 3 multipliers) and is supported by depictions of battle power in the manga.
So yeah, Super Saiyan is 50x, Second Grade is an unknown amount greater, and Third Grade is 10x Second Grade, meaning at least 500x. That also makes Super Saiyan 2 at least 500x.
Now.
Here is the supporting evidence.
- Trunks was "almost" as powerful as Vegeta, and he, as a Super Saiyan, posed enough of a threat to Semi-Perfect Cell to completely halt him, dead in his tracks.
- Merely raising his Ki to the level of Second Grade Super Saiyan was enough for Vegeta to shock not only Piccolo and Tien, but even Semi-Perfect Cell, with Tien deeming his power "inconceivable", even in the face of Cell, and Krillin recognized Vegeta's Ki as far larger than that of Cell's; although, this was obvious.
- As an upgraded Super Saiyan, Vegeta completely disregarded a full power Semi-Perfect Cell's strength and even no-sold its strikes.
- The energy that Cell generated nearing its completion was strong enough to no-sell the punches of Second Grade Trunks.
- Even while holding back "way, way, WAY more" of its full strength, Perfect Cell was powerful enough for Krillin to deduce that Vegeta, in his current state, had zero chance of defeating Cell.
- "Warming up", Perfect Cell overwhelmed Super Vegeta without breaking a sweat, and then blitzed him and no-sell a kick to the neck, proving its vast superiority.
- Perfect Cell was too powerful of a foe for Vegeta to even faze with his attacks, and Cell effortlessly stomped him.
- Without even readying for combat, Trunks' Ki was enough to catch the attention of Cell, who acknowledged his strength as worthy of entertainment.
- Cell deemed Trunks' power as a Third Grade Super Saiyan to be "greater than [its] by a wide margin", which Piccolo corroborated.
However, a good statement alone is not enough to get a high multiplier accepted. The amount of extra evidence one has to provide to get larger multipliers accepted is proportional to the size of the multiplier. For lower multipliers, like things much less than times 100, evidence can take the form of a clear increase in combat strength against priorly equal or superior opponents.
As for the validity of The Legendary Manga,, apparently, as per the word of distributor Hachette's (now-defunct) webpage, Shueisha and Bird Studio themselves personally produced the text. Their hands in production possibly suggests the existence of a Japanese transcript, however, this Japanese version has never been recorded or even spoken of definitively on the internet; as of currently, the only versions of this magazine to exist are the official Spanish and French translations, as the figures that the magazines are attached to and the company of Hachette itself are based in France. Still, on top of the aforementioned supposed writing credits, the magazines are officially licensed by Shueisha and Bird Studio, and contain, as far as I know, legitimate interviews from Akira Toriyama, which adds credence to its validity. Though, unlike the Super Saiyan multiplier, which is referenced in the Daizenshuu and the Super Exciting Guide and Kakarot, this statement only exists in this book. But its existence contradicts nothing (aside from the wacky Super Saiyan 2 and 3 multipliers) and is supported by depictions of battle power in the manga.
So yeah, Super Saiyan is 50x, Second Grade is an unknown amount greater, and Third Grade is 10x Second Grade, meaning at least 500x. That also makes Super Saiyan 2 at least 500x.
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