The_Yellow_Topaz
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SSJ Gohan was already stronger than base Perfect Cell, I'm pretty sure?
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Third Grade Super Saiyan Multiplier
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Perfect Cell was casually stomping and toying with Super Saiyan Gohan
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I can agree with this
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Using the logic that <50% Super Saiyan 2 is stronger than Grade 3
2G Vegeta and Trunks (>978 QT) < 3G Trunks (>9780 QT) > Vs. Trunks Perfect Cell (<9780 QT) < 3G Vs. Trunks Perfect Cell (<97800 QT) < 50% 4G Goku (>97800 QT) < 4G Goku (>195600 QT) < 4G Gohan (>195600 QT) < Perfect Cell (>195600 QT) < 3G Perfect Cell (>1956000 QT) < Revived Cell (>3912000 QT) < 50% SSJ2 Gohan (>3912000 QT) < SSJ2 Gohan (>7824000 QT)
2G Vegeta and Trunks (>978 QT) < 3G Trunks (>9780 QT) > Vs. Trunks Perfect Cell (<9780 QT) < 3G Vs. Trunks Perfect Cell (<97800 QT) < 50% 4G Goku (>97800 QT) < 4G Goku (>195600 QT) < 4G Gohan (>195600 QT) < Perfect Cell (>195600 QT) < 3G Perfect Cell (>1956000 QT) < Revived Cell (>3912000 QT) < 50% SSJ2 Gohan (>3912000 QT) < SSJ2 Gohan (>7824000 QT)
Eden_Warlock99
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SSJ2 being a x2 multiplier was accepted?
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No, I'm just using the logic that less than 50% of Super Saiyan 2 is superior to Grade 3
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a gohan who didn't want to fight and was clearly holding back, one kick was able to do some damage. He stomped cell in ssj2 because of a rage boost and the ssj2 multiplier which for some reason we don't accept?
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The rage was the catalyst for the transformation, not an effect
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Key points to this thread
According to “Manga El Legendario” which was made by Shueisha and Bird Studios:
Grade 3 = 10x SSJ
A form which Cell used to mock Trunks and attempted to fight Gohan’s SSJ2
Perfect Cell already was stronger than SSJ Gohan so Grade 3 Cell would be more so
Super Perfect Cell is Cell’s SSJ2 equivalent meaning stronger than Grade 3
50% SSJ2 Gohan bested SPC
Conclusion:
SSJ2 Gohan has to be at least 20x SSJ Gohan
According to “Manga El Legendario” which was made by Shueisha and Bird Studios:
Grade 3 = 10x SSJ
A form which Cell used to mock Trunks and attempted to fight Gohan’s SSJ2
Perfect Cell already was stronger than SSJ Gohan so Grade 3 Cell would be more so
Super Perfect Cell is Cell’s SSJ2 equivalent meaning stronger than Grade 3
50% SSJ2 Gohan bested SPC
Conclusion:
SSJ2 Gohan has to be at least 20x SSJ Gohan
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Gohan was clearly enraged lol, that is evident because of the nature of his attitude when fighting, so are you saying rage boost don't make you stronger while in the transformation? But only acts as a trigger for it?
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What I'm saying is, it wasn't giving him any extra power because Super Saiyan 2 was the effect of his rage boiling over
The_Yellow_Topaz
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Gohan did nothing but dodge the entire fight
he attacked Cell back once
and once he did he busted his lip.
Official guide states Gohan was stronger and holding back immensely.
"Gohan is facing Cell's attacks like they're nothing. His showcase of power surprises everyone"
"During the fight, Gohan realizes his strength surpassed Cell's, so he tried to convince Cell to stop fighting, but..."
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Why is 4G Gohan 10x stronger than 4G Goku?
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Typo
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Even if that’s the case this is also a Cell that hadn’t even shown his full powerGohan did nothing but dodge the entire fight
he attacked Cell back once
and once he did he busted his lip.
Official guide states Gohan was stronger and holding back immensely.
"Gohan is facing Cell's attacks like they're nothing. His showcase of power surprises everyone"
"During the fight, Gohan realizes his strength surpassed Cell's, so he tried to convince Cell to stop fighting, but..."
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I’m changing my vote to a full agree btw
The_Yellow_Topaz
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The same goes for Gohan, the whole point of the Cell juniors was to force him to fight seriously. Saying Cell was toying with him when Gohan didn't want to fight at all is not a very accurate representation.
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I'm going to make a full response once I arrive home.
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You've incurred the wrath of Null and his folders of scans
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For what i remember a guide says that rage did boost him beyond normal ssj2, i think it was mange legendario
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Do we accept Grade 4>Grade 3 or Grade 4<Grade 3 because if we’re accepting Grade 4<Grade 3 SSJ2 isn’t inconsistent anymore
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Grade 3 multiplier > Grade 4 multiplier. Goku and Gohan just had inconceivably high base power levels
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Grade 4 wasn't supposed to be an increase in power but an increase in efficiency anyway
Guacamolefletcher
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why not
Guacamolefletcher
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that's not what certain things like the Dragon Box state
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Ah yes. The DvD. An immaculate source of reliable info
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Well the multiplier was only 2x of Ssj, but this thread makes it 20x higher than SSJ iirc.
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this thread makes it more than 10x ssj1, unknowingly by how much, gohan is 20x since he has his power by half when he fought with cell, but he was already superior to perfect cell even in grade 4 so, meh
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this outright states that grade 4 gohan was superior to perfect cellGohan did nothing but dodge the entire fight
he attacked Cell back once
and once he did he busted his lip.
Official guide states Gohan was stronger and holding back immensely.
"Gohan is facing Cell's attacks like they're nothing. His showcase of power surprises everyone"
"During the fight, Gohan realizes his strength surpassed Cell's, so he tried to convince Cell to stop fighting, but..."
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And that is hilariously contradicted by the original manga itself
Why would Gohan be so desperate to unleash his supposed 'hidden power' if he could defeat Cell right then and there?
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because he could not find in himself the will to kill cell
Nullflowerblush
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Lord, why have you placed Omega in my thread???
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Omega is really important for DB threads
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he didn't want to fight, or kill cell lmao
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