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There's apparently contention about Gohan's rage boost.I thought we agreed 100% SSJ2 = 2x Grade 3 = 20x SSJ
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Surprised we don't use that already, ngl.
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There's apparently contention about Gohan's rage boost.I thought we agreed 100% SSJ2 = 2x Grade 3 = 20x SSJ
OK.
OK
Ok
Surprised we don't use that already, ngl.
I think Null debunked that pretty well.There's apparently contention about Gohan's rage boost.
Don't you dare.Surprised we don't use that already, ngl.
Watch meDon't you dare.
If that's the case then yeah SSJ2 is 20xI think Null debunked that pretty well.
No, his hidden power is Super Saiyan 2.His "hidden power" is just being angry enough to use his actual strength.
own goalguys can we not start with that again? 2x ssj2 is such a wormhole to open lmao
Wdym?If we use this thread as an example, than the SSJ3 multiplier should be pretty simple (heck likely easier tbf).
The only reason we weren't doing it was because there was the argument of Gohan's rage boost which would only give Gohan the 2x exclusively but it appears Null debunked thatI thought we weren't doing the 2x thing for SSJ2 and were just scaling SSJ2 above SSJ Third Grade
Anywho...
For the umpteenth time, yes. Anger is the source of Super Saiyan 2's power for Gohan, but nothing ever suggests that Gohan was being propped up the entire time by a rage boost. Throughout the battle, Gohan proved himself to be level-headed, plagued only by an underlying arrogance and sadistic, quiet wrath. Dialogue from Goku and Gohan in the Buu Saga later confirms that anger is the catalyst and driving force behind Super Saiyan 2, but Gohan never experienced an "How dare you touch my Bulma?!" power-up. Is this out of the way?
You would think that but trust me it isn't I'm trying to find it right now through Buu Saga scaling maybe Goku stopping an attack from SSJ2 Caulifa and Kale by just powering up SSJ3 can do somethingI agree with what Null has proposed.
If we use this thread as an example, than the SSJ3 multiplier should be pretty simple (heck likely easier tbf).
Basically, for smaller multipliers, all we need is at least a statement and scaling evidence of it.Wdym?
We aren’t we’re saying Gohan is 2x cell bc he could beat him with 50% of his powerI thought we weren't doing the 2x thing for SSJ2 and were just scaling SSJ2 above SSJ Third Grade
SEG is not being used at all cuz its not a valid source like the EMLBasically, for smaller multipliers, all we need is at least a statement and scaling evidence of it.
Grade 3: verifiable statement from El Manga Legendario and showings of being massively stronger than Grade 2.
SSJ3: statement from Super Exciting guide and showings of being massively stronger than SSJ2.
But I'm pretty sure Null debunked that being attributed to a Rage Boost.We aren’t we’re saying Gohan is 2x cell bc he could beat him with 50% of his power
I thought that was where we got the 50x for SSJ from? Or is that Daizenshuu?SEG is not being used at all cuz its not a valid source like the EML
DaizenshuuI thought that was where we got the 50x for SSJ from? Or is that Daizenshuu?
Ah then nevermind, if SEG isn't valid then ignore me lol.Daizenshuu
I never said it was a rage boost?But I'm pretty sure Null debunked that being attributed to a Rage Boost.
Only thing I can think of is Kefla or fusions after this point but that doesn’t debunk anything because potara is stated to be A * B and fusion dance is (A+B)*X and SSJG multiplier stays the same so it’s different when 2 Low Multiversal people fuse then from when 2 Solar system people lvl people fuseWe all know why that was debunked.
Only thing I can think of is Kefla or fusions after this point but that doesn’t debunk anything because potara is stated to be A * B and fusion dance is (A+B)*X and SSJG multiplier stays the same so it’s different when 2 Low Multiversal people fuse then from when 2 Solar system people lvl people fuse
Also just in case anyone mentions it tens of times is literally 20x to any higher finite number it doesn’t prove anything
Oh, I just meant SSJ Vegito is better than SSG Goku.Only thing I can think of is Kefla or fusions after this point but that doesn’t debunk anything because potara is stated to be A * B and fusion dance is (A+B)*X and SSJG multiplier stays the same so it’s different when 2 Low Multiversal people fuse then from when 2 Solar system people lvl people fuse
Also just in case anyone mentions it tens of times is literally 20x to any higher finite number it doesn’t prove anything
Oh, I just meant SSJ Vegito is better than SSG Goku.
Obviously not in BoG, because he didn't just "learn a new transformation," he massively increased the power of his base.
That was only true after his body adapted the raw power of Super Saiyan Godhe massively increased the power of his base.
Yes, but the initial SSJG transformation was stronger than later iterations.That was only true after his body learned from the power of Super Saiyan God
Yeah we have 2 agrees and a neutral with staff votes and it’s been 48 hoursIs the 10x metric fully agreed upon?
Yeah btw tracer agreed on the first or second pageThen it should be safe to apply?
Y’all, stop talking about this, it’s derailing.
what do you think tracer?Yeah we have 2 agrees and a neutral with staff votes and it’s been 48 hours
Tracer is one of the two staff that agreedwhat do you think tracer?
yes, and i was asking on the "can this please applied" stuff, wait did i linked the wrong comment?Tracer is one of the two staff that agreed
If the scaling chain has been figured out, then yeah, there’s nothing stopping this from being applied.yes, and i was asking on the "can this please applied" stuff, wait did i linked the wrong comment?
Can you close this? A new crt for the scaling has been created