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There's apparently contention about Gohan's rage boost.
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Third Grade Super Saiyan Multiplier
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I think Null debunked that pretty well.
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Don't you dare.
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Watch me
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If that's the case then yeah SSJ2 is 20x
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No, his hidden power is Super Saiyan 2.
Super Saiyan Gohan is by no means above Perfect Cell
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I thought we weren't doing the 2x thing for SSJ2 and were just scaling SSJ2 above SSJ Third Grade
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own goal
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I agree with what Null has proposed.
If we use this thread as an example, than the SSJ3 multiplier should be pretty simple (heck likely easier tbf).
If we use this thread as an example, than the SSJ3 multiplier should be pretty simple (heck likely easier tbf).
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Wdym?
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The only reason we weren't doing it was because there was the argument of Gohan's rage boost which would only give Gohan the 2x exclusively but it appears Null debunked that
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You would think that but trust me it isn't I'm trying to find it right now through Buu Saga scaling maybe Goku stopping an attack from SSJ2 Caulifa and Kale by just powering up SSJ3 can do something
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Basically, for smaller multipliers, all we need is at least a statement and scaling evidence of it.
Grade 3: verifiable statement from El Manga Legendario and showings of being massively stronger than Grade 2.
SSJ3: statement from Super Exciting guide and showings of being massively stronger than SSJ2.
Heck it likely wouldn't need as much evidence since the multiplier is even smaller (4x instead of 10x).
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We aren’t we’re saying Gohan is 2x cell bc he could beat him with 50% of his power
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SEG is not being used at all cuz its not a valid source like the EML
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But I'm pretty sure Null debunked that being attributed to a Rage Boost.
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I thought that was where we got the 50x for SSJ from? Or is that Daizenshuu?
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Daizenshuu
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Ah then nevermind, if SEG isn't valid then ignore me lol.
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I never said it was a rage boost?
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Only thing I can think of is Kefla or fusions after this point but that doesn’t debunk anything because potara is stated to be A * B and fusion dance is (A+B)*X and SSJG multiplier stays the same so it’s different when 2 Low Multiversal people fuse then from when 2 Solar system people lvl people fuse
Also just in case anyone mentions it tens of times is literally 20x to any higher finite number it doesn’t prove anything
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Goku and Vegeta's fusions are consistently portrayed as <<< their strongest Super Saiyan forms so that's a moot point since they're an exceptional case
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Oh, I just meant SSJ Vegito is better than SSG Goku.
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banned from using the grill
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Obviously not in BoG, because he didn't just "learn a new transformation," he massively increased the power of his base.
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That was only true after his body adapted the raw power of Super Saiyan God
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Yes, but the initial SSJG transformation was stronger than later iterations.
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Y’all, stop talking about this, it’s derailing.
Nullflowerblush
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Is the 10x metric fully agreed upon?
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Yeah we have 2 agrees and a neutral with staff votes and it’s been 48 hours
Nullflowerblush
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Then it should be safe to apply?
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Yeah btw tracer agreed on the first or second page
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what do you think tracer?
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Tracer is one of the two staff that agreed
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yes, and i was asking on the "can this please applied" stuff, wait did i linked the wrong comment?
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If the scaling chain has been figured out, then yeah, there’s nothing stopping this from being applied.
Ped2018
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Can you close this? A new crt for the scaling has been created
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Closing.
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