The whiteroom's masterpiece VS The god of generation 0 (Remake)

[XxZetsuxX]

Ayanokoji (Current) vs Daniel Park (UI)

Rules:

• Speed is equalised.
• Starting Distance: 5 meters
• Location: ANHS
• No one has prior knowledge and no one have prep time
• All of them are in-character
• Koji has his Knife
• Ayanokoji AP: 13,2 KJ
• Daniel Park AP: Same as Koji due to UI's weakness

	Ayanokoji's advantages: Outskills to oblivion More experienced More versatile E.G intelligence E.G Combatant Adaptability Higher Stamina Has a knife Higher BIQ Analytical prediction More haxed	The Puppeter - Fallen_Angelicx, XxZetsuxX, ODMvZfr, Zefra3011, SatellaTheWoE, Fezzih_007, TheHuntsman1001, RoggerReggor, Idc.violet
	Daniel's advantages: More techniques Higher durability Better copy ability	Ultra Instinct - Dinozxd, DivineAura44, azontr, Kachon123, Robo432343

 

[XxZetsuxX]

So like, What can Daniel do to bypass Koji's ANPR?

 

[XxZetsuxX]

That and what can Daniel do when he tries to predict an attack only to get hit in another place?

 

[DivineAura44]

So like, What can Daniel do to bypass Koji's ANPR?

Outspeed.

That and what can Daniel do when he tries to predict an attack only to get hit in another place?

Dodge the blow. Or catch it.
Whatever he has to in order to not get hit.

You are severely underestimating UI.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Outspeed.

Speed equalized? And he doesn't get stronger or faster anymore

Dodge the blow. Or catch it.
Whatever he has to in order to not get hit.

You are severely underestimating UI.

Like i said, Koji's ANPR allows him to predict how an opponent will move/evade and will attack on the place where he will be next

Daniel didn't ever fought someone like this

 

[DivineAura44]

Speed equalized? And he doesn't get stronger or faster anymore

Description of UI blatantly contradicts this. If he needs to get stronger or faster in order to defeat his opponent, he will.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Description of UI blatantly contradicts this. If he needs to get stronger or faster in order to defeat his opponent, he will.

No? If the opponent is weaker then he will weaken himself lol

 

[XxZetsuxX]

He will get stronger if the opponent is strong

He will get weaker if the opponent is weak

Don't get it twisted now

 

[XxZetsuxX]

"The Ultra Instinct ability without having it mastered makes the unconscious state stronger, and vice versa, depending on the combative ability of his opponent"

 

[DivineAura44]

No? If the opponent is weaker then he will weaken himself lol

It doesn't matter the stats of your opponent. He doesn't lower himself to his opponent, he adjusts himself to what he's fighting. If he's fighting an opponent who's moves to where he can't dodge, he will get faster to adapt, regardless of how fast his opponent is.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

He will get stronger if the opponent is strong

He will get weaker if the opponent is weak

Don't get it twisted now

Doesnt skill and ANPR make this a stomp. Passing by seeing this rn and it seems as such. Those two capabilities of ayanokoji eliminate any chance of daniel hitting the guy even once. He has no wincons here.

 

[DivineAura44]

"The Ultra Instinct ability without having it mastered makes the unconscious state stronger, and vice versa, depending on the combative ability of his opponent"

Notice how it says ability and not strength. You are proving my point, you just don't realize it.

 

[DivineAura44]

Doesnt skill and ANPR make this a stomp. Passing by seeing this rn and it seems as such. Those two capabilities of ayanokoji eliminate any chance of daniel hitting the guy even once.

He'll just get faster until he can't hit Koji. Meanwhile Koji will struggle hitting Daniel. Daniel's dodging ability is uncanny.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

He'll just get faster until he can't hit Koji. Daniel's dodging ability is uncanny.

Daniel while he is in UI prefers to tank and block over dodging, Don't forget this fact

Also, His predictions is legit, Koji predicts an attack, And while Daniel is in the middle of attacking Koji uses that moment to attack

As far as i know, Daniel never/dodged stopped an attack midway

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

He'll just get faster until he can't hit Koji. Meanwhile Koji will struggle hitting Daniel. Daniel's dodging ability is uncanny.

Oh i see. Couldnt he just outlast up until the point? Adapting to ayanokoji's fighting style slowly but surely with his dodging ability and afterwards get fast and counteractable enough to beat ayanokoji? Im wondering

 

[DivineAura44]

Like i said, Koji's ANPR allows him to predict how an opponent will move/evade and will attack on the place where he will be next

Daniel didn't ever fought someone like this

Like I said, Daniel's UI allows him to simply dodge whatever is coming at him.

Goes both ways bro.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

And don't forget Koji has resistence to ANPR which means Daniel can't predict it

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Like I said, Daniel's UI allows him to simply dodge whatever is coming at him.

This is just wank, "Simply dodge", Funny how i didn't see him dodge Samuel, Johan, Jake, Jerry and Daniel

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Not to mention, I still have yet to see UI Daniel dodge high precision feints like what Koji did to Albert

 

[DivineAura44]

Oh i see. Couldnt he just outlast up until the point? Adapting to ayanokoji's fighting style slowly but surely with his dodging ability and afterwards get fast and counteractable enough to beat ayanokoji? Im wondering

That's what I'm arguing for.

Daniel while he is in UI prefers to tank and block over dodging, Don't forget this fact

Also, His predictions is legit, Koji predicts an attack, And while Daniel is in the middle of attacking Koji uses that moment to attack

As far as i know, Daniel never/dodged stopped an attack midway

Yeah, tank hits he can. If Ayanokoji is specifically targetting pressure points, he'd dodge.

Daniel's attack would just be faster and hit first.

No, but in chapter 8 (one of the weakest least skilled versions of Daniel, without even having UI might I add) he dodges a feint from Zack, Zack throws out his real blow and Daniel instinctively catches it.

No chance Daniel doesn't just dodge the blow coming at him.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Daniel while he is in UI prefers to tank and block over dodging, Don't forget this fact

Idk about daneil so ill take ur word for it, although those attacks would'nt do any damage. Then again he has pressure points but im sure daniel will realize ayanokoji is trying to hit his pressure points seeing the fact ayano cant harm him, he'd lock in and attempt to dodge those PP attempts and it wouldnt be strange to assume as he's a martial arts expert and knows what attacks are hinted towards his weakpoints and whatt not.

Also, His predictions is legit, Koji predicts an attack, And while Daniel is in the middle of attacking Koji uses that moment to attack

According to divive, daniel has his own dodging ability which should be effective here + speed amps

 

[DivineAura44]

This is just wank, "Simply dodge", Funny how i didn't see him dodge Samuel, Johan, Jake, Jerry and Daniel

I wonder why Daniel didn't just dodge the guys who were physically faster and stronger than him too. Such a mystery.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

And don't forget Koji has resistence to ANPR which means Daniel can't predict it

He isnt gonna use AnpR to dodge an attack, especially if it isnt faster than him. Rather his IA which lets him dodge attacks on instinct.

 

[DivineAura44]

Also would appreciate if you could condense your arguments into one message, having to respond to 5 different messages means I might unfortunately miss one or two. Also makes it harder to respond because of the 20 second message rule.

 

[DivineAura44]

He isnt gonna use AnpR to dodge an attack, especially if it isnt faster than him. Rather his IA which lets him dodge attacks on instinct.

I don't think he was saying he was, more just saying he would if that scenario was to happen.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Idk about daneil so ill take ur word for it, although those attacks would'nt do any damage. Then again he has pressure points but im sure daniel will realize ayanokoji is trying to hit his pressure points seeing the fact ayano cant harm him, he'd lock in and attempt to dodge those PP attempts and it wouldnt be strange to assume as he's a martial arts expert and knows what attacks are hinted towards his weakpoints and whatt not.

Koji has a knife

According to divive, daniel has his own dodging ability which should be effective here + speed amps

He doesn't, He legit prefers to tank and block

That's what I'm arguing for.

Koji also has adaptability that works just as fast as him

Yeah, tank hits he can. If Ayanokoji is specifically targetting pressure points, he'd dodge.

Koji has a knife, And has stupidly high precision to aim for the eyes, throat etc

Daniel's attack would just be faster and hit first.

Koji has ANPR

No, but in chapter 8 (one of the weakest least skilled versions of Daniel, without even having UI might I add) he dodges a feint from Zack, Zack throws out his real blow and Daniel instinctively catches it.

Zack isn't as skilled as Koji (Especially when they are in BOS)

No chance Daniel doesn't just dodge the blow coming at him.

Comparing someone massively less skilled than Koji to him seems very invalid

Also would appreciate if you could condense your arguments into one message, having to respond to 5 different messages means I might unfortunately miss one or two. Also makes it harder to respond because of the 20 second message rule.

I'll try

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

I don't think he was saying he was, more just saying he would if that scenario was to happen.

Ic.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

He isnt gonna use AnpR to dodge an attack, especially if it isnt faster than him. Rather his IA which lets him dodge attacks on instinct.

His IA is not dodging based, His IA is legit making him fight unconcious like a normal fighter

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Just because he is fighting on instinct doesn't mean he is solely focused on dodging

Not when we see him block and tank attacks against Gun and Daniel

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Koji has a knife

Oop. GG. Since ayanokoji definately is capable of hitting daniel even by himself, a knife would be even more effective.

He doesn't, He legit prefers to tank and block

I see. Idk about daniel like that so thats good to know.

 

[DivineAura44]

He doesn't, He legit prefers to tank and block

Koji also has adaptability that works just as fast as him

Koji has a knife, And has stupidly high precision to aim for the eyes, throat etc

Koji has ANPR

Zack isn't as skilled as Koji (Especially when they are in BOS)

Comparing someone massively less skilled than Koji to him seems very invalid

I'll try

Koji has a knife but you think Daniel is just gonna tank and block, yeah alright.

In terms of strength and speed which allows him to overcome blitzes and stomps mid fight? Show me.

And Daniel can dodge.

Koji having ANPR means that an attack you just argued would come out AFTER Daniel's would be faster? Does his ANPR make him stronger too?

Great strawman.

Why does Koji having more skill make it less likely for Daniel to dodge an attack instinctually?

Thank you.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

His IA is not dodging based, His IA is legit making him fight unconcious like a normal fighter

Ooh. I see. Didnt know that, i was going off this;

Meanwhile Koji will struggle hitting Daniel. Daniel's dodging ability is uncanny.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Oop. GG. Since ayanokoji definately is capable of hitting daniel even by himself, a knife would be even more effective.


I see. Idk about daniel like that so thats good to know.

See here;

Daniel vs Johan

Daniel vs Samuel, Jerry and Jake

Daniel vs Gun

Daniel vs Daniel

Daniel vs Vasco, Zack, Warren Chae

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Doesnt skill and ANPR make this a stomp. Passing by seeing this rn and it seems as such. Those two capabilities of ayanokoji eliminate any chance of daniel hitting the guy even once. He has no wincons here.

I still think this is a skill stomp. Not even counting ANPR but his overall skill alone means daniel wont be able to hit him.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

See here;

Daniel vs Johan

Daniel vs Samuel, Jerry and Jake

Daniel vs Gun

Daniel vs Daniel

Daniel vs Vasco, Zack, Warren Chae

I'll check them out rn.

 

[DivineAura44]

I still think this is a skill stomp. Not even counting ANPR but his overall skill alone means daniel wont be able to hit him.

Until Daniel just speed blitzes.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Until Daniel just speed blitzes.

Assuming he can last long enough that is

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Until Daniel just speed blitzes.

Wouldnt ayanokoji defeat him before that happens? You all imply daniel's adaption and amps happens overtime and zetsu claims daniel prefers to block and tank attacks from opponents which would be bad for daniel.

 

[DivineAura44]

Wouldnt ayanokoji defeat him before that happens? You all imply daniel's adaption is overtime and zetsu claims daniel prefers to block and tank attacks from opponents which would be bad for daniel.

As I said when arguing with Zetsu, that's not true. Daniel wouldn't tank an attack he can't take. So if he sees a knife barreling at him, he'll dodge. I also find it funny that if you watch the Daniel vs Johan video, it starts off with Daniel dodging an attack.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Koji has a knife but you think Daniel is just gonna tank and block, yeah alright.

That's just in-character

In terms of strength and speed which allows him to overcome blitzes and stomps mid fight? Show me.

Shiro vs Ayanokoji, Volume 0

And Daniel can dodge.

Koji predicted where he will dodge and attack there while Daniel is still in the middle of dodging

Koji having ANPR means that an attack you just argued would come out AFTER Daniel's would be faster? Does his ANPR make him stronger too?

He predicts where his opponent will be after making a feint and attack there

I still am waiting for you to show Daniel dodging something of this caliber

Don't use less skilled characters btw

Great strawman.

I would appreciate if you answered like this, It's easier ngl, Idk where i used strawman like this

Why does Koji having more skill make it less likely for Daniel to dodge an attack instinctually?

Because Koji predicts while he is still in the middle of dodging?

Legit, Koji's ANPR is him predicting several moves in advance

Thank you.

No problem??