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So vote for Koji?that's a bit out of context and simply means he is good at everything but it doesn't mean he can master a shit by seeing it once ngl, I might agree Daniel copy technique is better but he will never adapt to said techniques like Ayano, Ayano won't even really bother trying to learn everything but simply adapt to Daniel's techniques imo.
Daniel has insane Learning skill and a decent degree of adaptability which can even be argued to be nerfed while in UI since it's kind of a berserk mode.
Ayanokouji on the other side might have a slower learning skill (for movements) but his adaptability is superior to Daniel's one so while Daniel might copy any movement Ayanokouji does, Ayanokouji can adapt and find ways to counter Daniel's techniques.
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the question is not how well he can do
the reason I gave it to Daniel is because he can do the technique he sees instantly, and he is faster than Aya in this regard. If we are going to talk about the differences and advantages of copying and Adaptation, that's another one.that's a bit out of context and simply means he is good at everything but it doesn't mean he can master a shit by seeing it once ngl, I might agree Daniel copy technique is better but he will never adapt to said techniques like Ayano, Ayano won't even really bother trying to learn everything but simply adapt to Daniel's techniques imo.
Daniel has insane Learning skill and a decent degree of adaptability which can even be argued to be nerfed while in UI since it's kind of a berserk mode.
Ayanokouji on the other side might have a slower learning skill (for movements) but his adaptability is superior to Daniel's one so while Daniel might copy any movement Ayanokouji does, Ayanokouji can adapt and find ways to counter Daniel's techniques.
I seethe question is not how well he can do
the reason I gave it to Daniel is because he can do the technique he sees instantly, and he is faster than Aya in this regard. If we are going to talk about the differences and advantages of copying and Adaptation, that's another one.
Copying is Daniel just imitating what he sees and integrating it into his own fighting style. it is usually limited to a superficial understanding and is an effort to apply the observed technique without fully understanding it. Adaptation, on the other hand, is a deeper process and involves much more than just imitating a technique.
Understanding: First it develops an in-depth understanding of why and how the technique works.
Adaptation: Then he optimizes this technique by adapting it to his own physical abilities, strategy and conditions.
Integration: Finally he makes this adapted technique a natural part of his own fighting style.
During the adaptation process, Ayanokoji modifies the techniques he observes according to his personal characteristics and fighting style. This allows the techniques to be used more effectively and efficiently.
As for the differences, copying is a superficial imitation; adaptation depends on deep understanding and assimilation. Copying can often be ineffective because each individual's physical and mental capacity is different. Adaptation, on the other hand, optimizes techniques according to one's own strengths, which provides more effective performance.
as a result for the beginning of the fight;
daniel copy > aya adaptation
For the later time of the fight;
aya adaptation> Daniel copy
i think we have found the common point
I think you are mistaking Daniel's techniques with UI?Voting Daniel. Even Johan couldn't copy UI Daniel without pushing his body to the brink of destruction. To copy Daniel's techniques you need the "perfect body," which Ayanokoji doesn't have.
It won't hit him with Koji's op ANPRDaniel will easily oneshot him with shockwave generation attacks or cqc.
UI is just Daniel subconsciously using all his martial arts moves in perfect succession. If Aya tries to copy that his body would start to deteriorate slowly.I think you are mistaking Daniel's techniques with UI?
Johan can't copy fully UI not martial arts moves
What is ANPRIt won't hit him with Koji's op ANPR
No, Just no, UI is a technique which amplifies your visual aciduity, Gun himself says so himselfUI is just Daniel subconsciously using all his martial arts moves in perfect succession. If Aya tries to copy that his body would start to deteriorate slowly.
Analytical predictionWhat is ANPR
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Koji still remains superiorAP and LS - Daniel has the advantage here by a long shot, But this is irrelevant if he cannot hit or grab Koji who is an evaside fighter
Skill - Koji stayed all of his life in the white room learning martial arts from 4 years old to 14 years old which means he fought 15k fights in total with 3 fights per day, There he learned more than 20+ martial arts total ranging from Karate, Boxing Jeet Kune Do, Judo, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Taijutsu, Aikido with Jeet Kune Do and Taijutsu being composite martial arts and weapons to professional degrees, Koji has fought with people who were stronger and faster than him such as their instructors who are professionals in their own field, Koji also has high knowledge about pressure points due to the white room training, Is capable of adapting to opponents really quickly who were previously beating him, Able to copy someone by absorbing visual and verbal information, Learned archery overnight by watching tutorial videos, Said it himself that he was capable of fighting Tsubasa Nanase even with his eyes closed and Ibuki too, Can gauge the opponent strength by mere glancing and know what martial arts they are using with a glance, Has a perfect record of victories against a professional fighter, Could win against 6 fighters at the same time who Ayanokouji stated himself they were stronger than him physically, Is tremendously more skilled than Manabu who is a martial arts genius who has 4th dan where it needs 15+ years to reach this level of mastery in aikido and 5th dan where it needs 20+ years to reach this level of mastery in karate while being only 18 years old, Is massively superior to the likes of Ichika Amasawa due to much harder curriculum and should have learnt the abilities of likes of Ichika much before. Can determine each and every possibility to visualize the future to some extent. Ayanokouji was able to determine that Manabu was aiming to throw his sister when he was still pinning her and even asked him to confirm it, on hearing the predictions, Manabu also asks Ayanokouji on how was he able to figure out what he was trying to do. Ayanokouji can out-predict his opponents after he completely understands their upper limit, this has been displayed when Ayanokouji misreads Ryuuen's upper limit and then corrects it, it has been confirmed when Tsukishiro and Shiba deliberately tried to hide their abilities to prevent Ayanokouji from gaining an advantage. However, He can use his intuition to read his opponents and also determine their abilities as well. Ayanokouji also analyzes Hōsen from the sides and predicts that he was aiming to harm himself, something which cannot be predicted from the posture Hōsen was in, Defeated Tsukishiro, an Assassin that was once hired by a Prime Minister, who he admitted was on his level. Held off Tsukishiro/Shiba who are both White Room agents or instructors, Tremendously more skilled than Ichika Amasawa and Takuya Yagami who did the 5th level of the white room who are vastly superior than Manabu in skill, Stated to have flawless strategies, Able to see through his opponent's plans, Ayanokouji is also able to purposely feed false Habits, Timing, Patterns, Body movement to his opponents such as when he did with Tsukishiro who could read 99% of Koji's mind, Is also no stranger to dodge while having limited space while using 1 hand, Can kill his presence. He also followed several people without being noticed
Experience - Ayanokouji has more experience in dealing with fighters who are stronger and faster than him physically such as his instructors when he was a child and the 6 fighters he fought, Has more than 15k fights under his belt with alot of variety of martial arts to professional levels and weapons too, Ayanokouji also has experience in being in disadvantagous situations to the point it's normal to him
He can outpredict his opponents who have high levels of ANPR;
Albert < Suzune < Manabu << (Stomps) Ichika << (Stomps) Takuya <= Yuki = Shiro < Tsukishiro <<< (Obliterates) Ayanokouji in ANPR
UI Daniel however has not shown to be able to outpredict nor resist someone as skilled as Ayanokouji
Wrong. Gun said that UI is a technique that adapts to the strength of the opponent.No, Just no, UI is a technique which amplifies your visual aciduity, Gun himself says so himself
Not if he's in UI, as the techniques he's copying would simply just destroy his body. If it was that easy Johan would've been able to do that, which he wasn't. And even if Aya does copy Daniel's attacks, that's not nearly enough. Johan tried to do the same and still got skillstomped. Again, you're forgetting that UI Daniel adapts to the skills of his opponents, so if Aya copies one skill, he's simply adapt and use the skill to a higher level and become far faster and stronger.Ayanokouji can copy his wrestling, Capoeira etc etc but not UI
What feats does he have with his ANPR because Daniel has fought several people with ANPR and it never worked. Hell, he has resistance to ANPR on his profile.Analytical prediction
Wrong. Gun said that UI is a technique that adapts to the strength of the opponent.
No wtf, Martial arts techniques are not UI dependentNot if he's in UI, as the techniques he's copying would simply just destroy his body.
Funny how he copied his attacks when he fought against him and nothing happened :/If it was that easy Johan would've been able to do that, which he wasn't.
Because he was already superior wtf?And even if Aya does copy Daniel's attacks, that's not nearly enough. Johan tried to do the same and still got skillstomped.
He does not, He just copies, There's a big difference hereAgain, you're forgetting that UI Daniel adapts to the skills of his opponents
So Koji then?, so if Aya copies one skill, he's simply adapt and use the skill to a higher level and become far faster and stronger.
Koji has a giant anpr chain and can legit stomp people who can read 99% of his mind like i said abovehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU5QebAzmkY
What feats does he have with his ANPR because Daniel has fought several people with ANPR and it never worked. Hell, he has resistance to ANPR on his profile.
This does not mention ANPR at all
You need to consider that Lookism does not hold a candle to Koji's ANPRand perfectly switch the timing of his own attacks to throw his opponents off last second.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU5QebAzmkY
You are twisting the plot of lookism trying to give something UI Daniel does not have, How am i in the wrong here??The the OP isn't going to count my vote ima just unfollow this. My mistake, I forgot how COTE fans are.
See here, Let's get something straight, Let's start with UI DanielThe the OP isn't going to count my vote ima just unfollow this. My mistake, I forgot how COTE fans are.
Then you also need to consider analytical prediction comes in different varietiesWhat feats does he have with his ANPR because Daniel has fought several people with ANPR and it never worked. Hell, he has resistance to ANPR on his profile.
Daniel can copy the timing of his ANPR after experiencing it once and adapt accordingly, and perfectly switch the timing of his own attacks to throw his opponents off last second.
Those and adaptability and these are the stuff that actually gets you the win in this matchup.Koji is above based on everything, I don't see Daniel doing any of these aside from copy stuff and knowing martial arts?
The thing is that he doesn't. His profile doesn't list that so it doesn't.They don't need to be? If he has the abilities and feats, You just need to show the feat then problem solved lol?
He has copied martial arts that exist in Koji's verse and techniques takes objectively more skill to perform in comparison to what Cote has (like CQC and Systema).And you are assuming he can copy Koji when he is not on his verse and Daniel can predict Koji when he is not on his verse
I'm not "downgrading" anything. You saying that Koji can predict Daniel's Attack Reflection is like saying Koji can predict Kamehameha or something. It's something he has never seen or experienced before, how would he able to predict it?Why are you downgrading Koji ANPR? His predictions are not prior knowledge based wtf
You have to prove that it applies to martial arts or even applicable in a combat scenario as well. This was the exact reason why it was listed as "Limited Power Mimicry" before since we only see him copy skiing techniques, not combat stuff.Skiing feat shows it's instant
Daniel has fear hax too (subjectively superior) while also having Fear Inducing Aura as well which is pretty much Fear Inducement but your mere presence induces the fear.You did not debunk the fear hax, And you are also assuming Koji ANPR is prior knowledge based which is completely and utterly false
Based on his profile, It's not applicable to combat, just sports (and it's sure as hell not instant).don't they do the same exact thing? both have power mimicry.
So you're telling me copying and mastering a technique or a martial art is not adaptation?He doesn't adapt, I don't know what you mean but Daniel just copies them but doesn't really adapt fighting against said techniques he simply masters them; adaptation is different
Eh, Systema still exists.I believe UI Daniel doesn't use those martial arts this way, he used cqc only when he was outnumbered, he also doesn't even spam attack reflection but only use it occasionally.
Which Koji excels in the long run, Thing is, What makes you think Daniel will be capable of dodging knife attacks from Koji?Those and adaptability and these are the stuff that actually gets you the win in this matchup.
Daniel profile also says he does not adapt to anything so he doesn't have it lolThe thing is that he doesn't. His profile doesn't list that so it doesn't.
Systema and CQC are IRL martial arts lolHe has copied martial arts that exist in Koji's verse and techniques takes objectively more skill to perform in comparison to what Cote has (like CQC and Systema).
Daniel won't reflect a knife attack otherwise he dies, So irrelevantKoji has never predicted an Attack Reflection feat, so he doesn't have the experience to predict it, as predictions come from past experiences.
Because it's not something out of this world wtf? As for the Kamehameha thing, Koji would also be able to predict because dragon ball is fiction in COTE lolI'm not "downgrading" anything. You saying that Koji can predict Daniel's Attack Reflection is like saying Koji can predict Kamehameha or something. It's something he has never seen or experienced before, how would he able to predict it?
Koji absorbs visual and verbal information, This speaks volumesYou have to prove that it applies to martial arts or even applicable in a combat scenario as well. This was the exact reason why it was listed as "Limited Power Mimicry" before since we only see him copy skiing techniques, not combat stuff.
Having better fear hax is useless when Koji has resistence to it and Daniel doesn't lolDaniel has fear hax too (subjectively superior) while also having Fear Inducing Aura as well which is pretty much Fear Inducement but your mere presence induces the fear.
Daniel has better Fear Hax compared to Koji.
It's applicable, Because he is copying based on visual and verbal information, Don't downplay it nowBased on his profile, It's not applicable to combat, just sports (and it's sure as hell not instant).
No?So you're telling me copying and mastering a technique or a martial art is not adaptation?
Systema exists IRL and this martial arts is not something supernaturalEh, Systema still exists.
I still don't see any argument made for Daniel that makes him capable of bypassing his ANPR?I'm not saying he would spam it or something (Koji would adapt sooner or later if he spams it anyway). It's enough for him to just land one, rest would be a sweep via Systema or like, bazillion other techniques Daniel has.
What are you even adapting? You already mastered the technique by copying it, You didn't adapt anything, You just copied itSo you're telling me copying and mastering a technique or a martial art is not adaptation?
Notice how your arguments were countered and were very weakNotice how all Daniel votes still haven't been counted
I don't quite believe so, Koji can fear hax UI Daniel to stun him in place than use that moment to stab his throat or headI'd honestly zone in on incon since this match can go either way from the looks fo both arguments.
One question, has he ever did it with someone who's basically not awake? Can he fear hax someone who is not conscious?I don't quite believe so, Koji can fear hax UI Daniel to stun him in place than use that moment to stab his throat or head
Because it's speed equalized and Daniel has dodged strikes from far more skilled weapon users like Goo?Which Koji excels in the long run, Thing is, What makes you think Daniel will be capable of dodging knife attacks from Koji?
He evolved faster than Johan who can copy martial arts and techniques he sees as well. It's on his profile too...Daniel profile also says he does not adapt to anything so he doesn't have it lol
They are not used IRL like they're used in Lookism obviously.Systema and CQC are IRL martial arts lol
What?Also it would be a different story if Daniel created after images while doing these moves which he doesn't (And even then he wouldn't still be able to hit)
Eh, UI Daniel can keep up with Goo while he's using a sword. He even could disarm him (that backfired but it was cuz Goo is crazy, wouldn't apply here) so wouldn't be hard disarming a less skilled swordsman, with a little knife.Daniel won't reflect a knife attack otherwise he dies, So irrelevant
Why, exactly? It's not something Koji has seen in his verse before, nor has prior knowledge to know it in this fight. So in a sense, it is something out of his world.Because it's not something out of this world wtf?
That'd be like a normal human being able to predict Kamehameha while Dragon Ball characters on several occasions can't (I assume?) which doesn't make sense.As for the Kamehameha thing, Koji would also be able to predict because dragon ball is fiction in COTE lol
It's not instant adaptation. The scan related to that ability literally states that.Koji absorbs visual and verbal information, This speaks volumes
Koji has "Resistance to Limited Fear Inducement" (Having better fear hax is useless when Koji has resistence to it and Daniel doesn't lol
He's copying something far different to a martial art.It's applicable, Because he is copying based on visual and verbal information, Don't downplay it now
Adapting definition;No?
Copy and adaptation is different indeed
Daniel makes his opponent's movement suitable for a new use or purpose by copying and mastering it.make (something) suitable for a new use or purpose; modify.
It's use in Lookism is far different compared to it's irl form.Systema exists IRL and this martial arts is not something supernatural
Even Base Daniel has shown the ability to be able to adapt to Anpr (in his profile). UI Daniel is just Base Daniel but a far more adaptive fighter.I still don't see any argument made for Daniel that makes him capable of bypassing his ANPR?
I have given my reasoning on how the fight would go, some other people have. They are not one worded or sentenced votes, they are votes that have actual reasoning behind it. You're just gate keeping atp.Also this;
I believe that does not matter considering how he does not have resistence to itOne question, has he ever did it with someone who's basically not awake? Can he fear hax someone who is not conscious?
That still doesn't make Daniel bypass Koji's ANPRBecause it's speed equalized and Daniel has dodged strikes from far more skilled weapon users like Goo?
Evolved =/ AdaptationHe evolved faster than Johan who can copy martial arts and techniques he sees as well. It's on his profile too...
Does not matter, It exists and they have nothing supernatural about it, Stop wankingThey are not used IRL like they're used in Lookism obviously.
Do you not listen? I still have not seen how he would be bypassing Koji's ANPR, Nobody in lookism comes close to Koji in ANPREh, UI Daniel can keep up with Goo while he's using a sword. He even could disarm him (that backfired but it was cuz Goo is crazy, wouldn't apply here) so wouldn't be hard disarming a less skilled swordsman, with a little knife.
Knife says helloHe can use the Attack Reflection later.
It's not, They are still moving their body normally, Koji can predict body movement, Can predict based on intuition, Can predict point blank attacks, Can predict sneak attacks from blind spotsWhy, exactly? It's not something Koji has seen in his verse before, nor has prior knowledge to know it in this fight. So in a sense, it is something out of his world.
You talk like it's hard when they legit do a hand pose and a sphere of ki starts showing in their handsThat'd be like a normal human being able to predict Kamehameha while Dragon Ball characters on several occasions can't (I assume?) which doesn't make sense.
You are the one who bought it up lolAlso, this is a non argument as Lookism sure as hell isn't a fiction in cote.
I was refering about the part you said it was non combat applicable, Which is plain wrongIt's not instant adaptation. The scan related to that ability literally states that.
Limited does not make it weaker at allKoji has "Resistance to Limited Fear Inducement" (which I have never heard of btw), Daniel doesn't have Limited Fear Inducement (which I'm assuming is fear caused by Social Influencing?) so Koji's resistance doesn't block it.
Never once did i mention that he would copy UI, Stop bringing that upHe's copying something far different to a martial art.
Imagine this, You are unskilled fighter and you fight someone skilledAdapting definition;
Head canon, He just copies itDaniel makes his opponent's movement suitable for a new use or purpose by copying and mastering it.
The martial arts is not supernaturalIt's use in Lookism is far different compared to it's irl form.
Koji can also adapt really fast (Shiro being a prime example, Skiing feat too, And archery)Even Base Daniel has shown the ability to be able to adapt to Anpr (in his profile). UI Daniel is just Base Daniel but a far more adaptive fighter.
Koji's ANPR is too much for people who can read 99% of his mind, Daniel can only read movements nothing elseAyano's anpr would just take a little more time for Daniel to adapt to
Cap, Did you really just ignore everything i said? Remember that giant ass text i sent? Don't ignore that, then he'd just disarm Koji and as a much better h2h fighter than him
Techniques yes, Win? No, You still did not mention how he would bypass Koji's ANPRthat has much better techniques on his side, he'd just win.
And i gave counters to which you guys keep ignoringI have given my reasoning on how the fight would go, some other people have. They are not one worded or sentenced votes, they are votes that have actual reasoning behind it. You're just gate keeping atp.