The welcoming of a new god tier"we don't see this everyday

[Danny1112]

Now to begin.


*byakuya says that the last form of gerard was on par with soul king yhwach. Note:this is possible as Gerard has reactive revolution/the ability hogyuoku gave to aizen,the ability to transcend,at one extent Gerard transcended at the level of shikai kenpachi to the extent of being above bankai kenpachi.



Toshiro even backs this up,by telling byakuya that the former Gerard they crossed blade with,doesn't hold a candle to this form of Gerard.

conclusion: new god tier???only the last form of Gerard.his the soul king heart afterall.

 

[Graf_Thorsdottir]

I'm pretty sure every one after me will repeat this: It's too baseless and speculative. Their nature as a part of the Soul King's being is not tied with their strength, only their hax (see Pernida)

 

[Danny1112]

I'm pretty sure every one after me will repeat this: It's too baseless and speculative. Their nature as a part of the Soul King's being is not tied with their strength, only their hax (see Pernida)

Well the base point of this thread isn't about that anyway,I just used that tie in something,am referring to the point where i said "he is the soul king anway"

 

[Graf_Thorsdottir]

The best Gerard would get out of this is a long scaling chain from Gremmy's meteor.

"He is the Soul King anyway"

That makes no sense

 

[Danny1112]

The best Gerard would get out of this is a long scaling chain from Gremmy's meteor.
"He is the Soul King anyway"

That makes no sense

No that's not what I meant,and I presume you didn't read my post well,this whole upgrade is based on a statement that the final form of Gerard is on par with soul king yhwach,and that "He is the soul king heart anyway" I was just using this to tie up something like I said before,it's not the main point of this thread.

 

[AppleLord]

Let me clear something up, when Byakuya says "That thing is on Yhwach's level." That's a mistranslation. What he says is that Ichigo is already fighting Yhwach on the top level.

 

[Danny1112]

Let me clear something up, when Byakuya says "That thing is on Yhwach's level." That's a mistranslation. What he says is that Ichigo is already fighting Yhwach on the top level.

What!!how is it a mistranslation, that scan is like the only translation online,and what you suggested doesn't add up,why would byakuya call ichigo a thing,unless you're are trying to tell me that what toshiro was referring to ??? "as he himself said thing" was ichigo??

 

[AppleLord]

What chapter was it? I want to look for the translation myself.

 

[AppleLord]

Chapter was 674. Translation from Raw.

Page 08

Renji´╝ÜÒüäÒüº Ow!

Byakuya´╝ܵüïµ¼í Renji Byakuya´╝ÜÒâ½Òé¡Òéó Rukia

Byakuya´╝ÜÒüèÕëìÚüöÒü»Ú╗ÆÕ┤Äõ©ÇÞ¡ÀÒü«Þ¿▒Òü©ÕÉæÒüïÒüê Go to Kurosaki Ichigo

Renji´╝ÜÒüêÒâ╗Òâ╗Òâ╗Òâ╗Òâ╗Òâ╗ Huh…… Rukia´╝ÜÒüùÒüïÒüùÕà䵺ÿÒâ╗Òâ╗Òâ╗Òâ╗Òâ╗Òâ╗´╝ü But nii-sama……! Byakuya´╝ÜÚ£èÕ£ºÒéÆÞªïÒéì Look at the reiatsu

Byakuya´╝ÜÕÑ┤Òü» He Byakuya´╝ܵùóÒü½ÒâªÒâ╝ÒâÅÒâÉÒââÒâÅÒü¿Õ»¥Õ│ÖÒüùÒüªÒüäÒéï Is already confronting Yhwach

Renji & Rukia´╝Ü´╝ü´╝ü !!

 

[Danny1112]

Chapter was 674. Translation from Raw.
Page 08

Renji´╝ÜÒüäÒüº Ow!

Byakuya´╝ܵüïµ¼í Renji Byakuya´╝ÜÒâ½Òé¡Òéó Rukia

Byakuya´╝ÜÒüèÕëìÚüöÒü»Ú╗ÆÕ┤Äõ©ÇÞ¡ÀÒü«Þ¿▒Òü©ÕÉæÒüïÒüê Go to Kurosaki Ichigo

Renji´╝ÜÒüêÒâ╗Òâ╗Òâ╗Òâ╗Òâ╗Òâ╗ Huh…… Rukia´╝ÜÒüùÒüïÒüùÕà䵺ÿÒâ╗Òâ╗Òâ╗Òâ╗Òâ╗Òâ╗´╝ü But nii-sama……! Byakuya´╝ÜÚ£èÕ£ºÒéÆÞªïÒéì Look at the reiatsu

Byakuya´╝ÜÕÑ┤Òü» He Byakuya´╝ܵùóÒü½ÒâªÒâ╝ÒâÅÒâÉÒââÒâÅÒü¿Õ»¥Õ│ÖÒüùÒüªÒüäÒéï Is already confronting Yhwach

Renji & Rukia´╝Ü´╝ü´╝ü !!

I don't really understand Japanese, so I don't have enough to trust that your translation>the original translation even tho it's not the viz translation, so probably I will just wait for @imade,since his another person that's good in translation.

 

[AppleLord]

Just ask any Japanese translator in the wiki they will confirmed it. That's not my translation by the way. It comes from the mangahelpers translation group.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

Ask IMade to translate that raw. He knows Japanese. And we have trusted his translations before.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Reinhardthrowhisspear too,he's most knowledge japanese translator too (because he's japanese)

 

[Dr.Fix]

Chapter was 674. Translation from Raw.Page 08
Renji´╝ÜÒüäÒüº Ow!

Byakuya´╝ܵüïµ¼í Renji Byakuya´╝ÜÒâ½Òé¡Òéó Rukia

Byakuya´╝ÜÒüèÕëìÚüöÒü»Ú╗ÆÕ┤Äõ©ÇÞ¡ÀÒü«Þ¿▒Òü©ÕÉæÒüïÒüê Go to Kurosaki Ichigo

Renji´╝ÜÒüêÒâ╗Òâ╗Òâ╗Òâ╗Òâ╗Òâ╗ Huh…… Rukia´╝ÜÒüùÒüïÒüùÕà䵺ÿÒâ╗Òâ╗Òâ╗Òâ╗Òâ╗Òâ╗´╝ü But nii-sama……! Byakuya´╝ÜÚ£èÕ£ºÒéÆÞªïÒéì Look at the reiatsu

Byakuya´╝ÜÕÑ┤Òü» He Byakuya´╝ܵùóÒü½ÒâªÒâ╝ÒâÅÒâÉÒââÒâÅÒü¿Õ»¥Õ│ÖÒüùÒüªÒüäÒéï Is already confronting Yhwach

Renji & Rukia´╝Ü´╝ü´╝ü !!

This is already translated and I can attest Badkarma did so correctly.

 

[Danny1112]

Ask IMade to translate that raw. He knows Japanese. And we have trusted his translations before.

I already did,that's why I said,I was waiting for his reply.

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Byakuya is talking about Ichigo. I can see why someone at mangatream translated it as "on the same level", but it's a huge stretch since Õ»¥Õ│Ö can sometimes mea "to hold one's own"; however, this is in the te-iru form (Õ»¥Õ│ÖÒüùÒüªÒüäÒéï) indicating it's an ongoing action and it usually means "confrontation".