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Super Ability monsters? Thats new to me
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The Ultra Series Discussion Thread: Unleash! The Power of Imagination!
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As for the split for post-heisei kaijus, maybe we need to talk with the person on reddit that suggesting the idea?
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Hey could you guy give me link to the raw version of the novel like ultimate force zero side story and ultraman tregear blue phantom
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You do remember there were only the Chinese translation of UZF Side Story that we've gotten so far in full, right? And as for Blue Shadow, nobody here has it.
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The first appearance of one was episode one of Ultraman Taro, Astromons. They are monsters that are stated to be even more powerful than Super Monsters as shown when Astromons easily ate Oil Drinker in the very first episode of Ultraman Taro. Here’s the category with the scan on the Ultraman wiki
Super Ability Monsters
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I see
And from the list of super abilities monsters, yeah no wonder why they are more powerful than the Chojus (especially Mururoa is one of them)
And from the list of super abilities monsters, yeah no wonder why they are more powerful than the Chojus (especially Mururoa is one of them)
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So anyways I was looking over the list of monsters that Beryudora fused with and I was wondering. Would Beryudora also get the resistances and body abilities of the monsters like Zaragas' Reactive Evolution or Gatanothor's resistance to its own death fog? Like I'm not sure if we should list the body abilities as the monster themselves can't really move their body to use those abilities as they are stuck to Beryudora. Resistance on the other hand is also something I'm not sure about.
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Considering how much more vague that side of it is, I think discounting them is best.
Unless y'all wanna cheese the system by taking how Belyudra is still considered a fusion
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So only list their projection abilities like Gatanothor’s death fog, Bemstar’s absorption, Bullton’s reality warping, and etc. right? What about resistance? Cause it feels weird that Beryudora can potentially kill itself with its own abilities.
I mean the problem with that is Beryudora isn’t really a traditional fusion with the monsters fused in one. It’s more of a just monsters stuck on the surface of its body type of fusion.
I mean the problem with that is Beryudora isn’t really a traditional fusion with the monsters fused in one. It’s more of a just monsters stuck on the surface of its body type of fusion.
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So i was snooping around in the tsupro website and found this
アブソリュートタルタロスと同等の実力を持つ、アブソリューティアンの怪力戦士。宇宙最強と言われるコスモ幻獣拳を身につけており、剛力のみならず巧みな技も駆使する強敵。
TL : A monstrously powerful Absolutian warrior with abilities equal to those of Absolute Tartarus. He wears the Cosmo Phantom Beast Fist, which is said to be the strongest in the universe, and is a powerful opponent who uses not only brute strength but also clever techniques.
does this mean that Diavolo is equal to Tartarus ?
Link to statement : https://m-78.jp/galaxy-fight/tdc/ja/character/
アブソリュートタルタロスと同等の実力を持つ、アブソリューティアンの怪力戦士。宇宙最強と言われるコスモ幻獣拳を身につけており、剛力のみならず巧みな技も駆使する強敵。
TL : A monstrously powerful Absolutian warrior with abilities equal to those of Absolute Tartarus. He wears the Cosmo Phantom Beast Fist, which is said to be the strongest in the universe, and is a powerful opponent who uses not only brute strength but also clever techniques.
does this mean that Diavolo is equal to Tartarus ?
Link to statement : https://m-78.jp/galaxy-fight/tdc/ja/character/
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Yeah we used to have that in the scaling blog but than Ultraman Trigger came out and kind of implied Tartarus is superior to Diavolo so we removed it. But if they reveal that Diavolo is indeed equal to Tartarus in UGF3 and was just heavily weakened in Ultraman Trigger than we’ll probably add it back into the scaling.
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ahhh so basically because he was whooped in trigger's series he didn't get said upgrade
well said diavolo
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Pretty much. Still I can’t believe we all thought Tartarus was just gonna be a foot soldier or something while Diavolo was like the king of Absolutians. Only to find out that Tartarus is treated as what seems to be the de facto leader of the Absolutians while Diavolo is his underling.
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i think everybody thought of that because of the positioning in the UGF poster we all saw lol
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btw how do u use the "Quote" feature here, i don't understand at all
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Ah, crap.
I wanna say yes to resistances because of that reasoning as well, but also not because of similarities with your following statement. How many of those resistances aren't already from Belial himself? I'm assuming since he's the actual connector, his own resistances should naturally already be factored in. How many of the monsters in Belyudra's body have something similar to Gatanothor's death mist? Because I think at least passive emissions like those can be counted given they're starting moves, as well as monsters who've resisted their own AoE attacks.
I wanna say yes to resistances because of that reasoning as well, but also not because of similarities with your following statement. How many of those resistances aren't already from Belial himself? I'm assuming since he's the actual connector, his own resistances should naturally already be factored in. How many of the monsters in Belyudra's body have something similar to Gatanothor's death mist? Because I think at least passive emissions like those can be counted given they're starting moves, as well as monsters who've resisted their own AoE attacks.
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Sounce for this databook about Ultra slower on earth ?
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For whenever the P&A CRT finally comes about, should we also update the Ultra Physiology page or do a special section on the Inner Light blog stating how many layers the Ultras resist? After all, it does seem important, all things considered.
Another update point would be to also include Fear Manipulation alongside Empathic since Minus Energy covers both since apparently they haven't been grouped together yet. Or what about the proposal on terminology-based powers like Minus Energy?
Another update point would be to also include Fear Manipulation alongside Empathic since Minus Energy covers both since apparently they haven't been grouped together yet. Or what about the proposal on terminology-based powers like Minus Energy?
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Yeah we might as well add all the ability changes onto that thread. So if you have anything you want to add just post it here and I'll add it onto the draft once I make it.
Yeah I think I do recall fear being one of the stuff that Minus Energy covers but I don't remember where that was stated. If you could find it then yeah we can add that to the Ultra Physiology. Making a Minus Energy page could work but is there enough stuff to warrant it being a whole separate page like Ultra Physiology?
Yeah I think I do recall fear being one of the stuff that Minus Energy covers but I don't remember where that was stated. If you could find it then yeah we can add that to the Ultra Physiology. Making a Minus Energy page could work but is there enough stuff to warrant it being a whole separate page like Ultra Physiology?
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Got it.
Ginga's finale has it, said by Lugiel in fact. Nah, I don't think we really need a new page for Minus Energy, just a terminology section on the verse page should be good enough, where we can also add stuff like Spark Dolls' mechanisms. I'll see if I can pull up the suggestion I made some time ago.
Edit: Found it on this page.
Ginga's finale has it, said by Lugiel in fact. Nah, I don't think we really need a new page for Minus Energy, just a terminology section on the verse page should be good enough, where we can also add stuff like Spark Dolls' mechanisms. I'll see if I can pull up the suggestion I made some time ago.
Edit: Found it on this page.
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Okay so here are the list of abilities I have for Beryudora going off the list of monsters up to his neck. Still got the body, back, left and right arm left to go through and those are way longer.
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Temperature Manipulation: Bemstar
Radiation Manipulation: Alien Metron, Alien Zarab
Sound Manipulation: Alien Zarab
Magnetism Manipulation: Antlar
Weather Manipulation: Giradorus
Air Manipulation: Kemular, Astromons, Alien Temperor
Poison Manipulation: Kemular, Alien Temperor, Banila
Metal Manipulation: Gango
Darkness Manipulation: Alien Pegassa
Acid Manipulation: Stegon, Astromons
Paralysis Inducement: Alien Baltan, Alien Guts
Illusion Creation: Alien Baltan, Alien Guts
Gravity Manipulation: Alien Baltan II
Smoke Manipulation: Black King, Signalion, Peguila
Weapon Creation: Vakishim, Gammas
Homing Attack: Vakishim
Technology Manipulation: Eleking
Water Manipulation: Gamakugira
Power Mimicry: Ace Killer
Black Hole Creation via death: Balloonga
Ice Manipulation: Peguila
Sucks that some of the better abilities like Alien Guts' intangibility and duplication or Zaragas' reactive evolution can't be listed since its not a projection ability and instead a body ability which we can't prove that Beryudora can use
Belyudra
Belyudra[1][2][3] (ベリュドラ, Beryudora) is the gigantic chimeric monster that appears in Mega Monster Battle Ultra Galaxy: The Movie. It is made up of countless monsters and aliens that the Ultras had fought throughout history, combined into a single being controlled by Ultraman Belial. Subtitle...
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Temperature Manipulation: Bemstar
Radiation Manipulation: Alien Metron, Alien Zarab
Sound Manipulation: Alien Zarab
Magnetism Manipulation: Antlar
Weather Manipulation: Giradorus
Air Manipulation: Kemular, Astromons, Alien Temperor
Poison Manipulation: Kemular, Alien Temperor, Banila
Metal Manipulation: Gango
Darkness Manipulation: Alien Pegassa
Acid Manipulation: Stegon, Astromons
Paralysis Inducement: Alien Baltan, Alien Guts
Illusion Creation: Alien Baltan, Alien Guts
Gravity Manipulation: Alien Baltan II
Smoke Manipulation: Black King, Signalion, Peguila
Weapon Creation: Vakishim, Gammas
Homing Attack: Vakishim
Technology Manipulation: Eleking
Water Manipulation: Gamakugira
Power Mimicry: Ace Killer
Black Hole Creation via death: Balloonga
Ice Manipulation: Peguila
Sucks that some of the better abilities like Alien Guts' intangibility and duplication or Zaragas' reactive evolution can't be listed since its not a projection ability and instead a body ability which we can't prove that Beryudora can use
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I only have Sound Manipulation from Zarab to add to this as I don't remember it being listed yet.
Anyway the list looks good. And I mean I agree, but it's kind of for the better that he doesn't have everything the individual components have. Well I'm mostly worried of him getting excessive amounts of P&A even though he's probably never gonna be used again, plus creating potential management problem on the page itself or when (or if) it's used in matches.
Anyway the list looks good. And I mean I agree, but it's kind of for the better that he doesn't have everything the individual components have. Well I'm mostly worried of him getting excessive amounts of P&A even though he's probably never gonna be used again, plus creating potential management problem on the page itself or when (or if) it's used in matches.
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Added that onto the list now
Well we are supposed to be an indexing site so we should list them even if we won't be using Beryudora that much. Also there was a thread that was talking about changing the ability listing format for characters with a lot of abilities.
Well we are supposed to be an indexing site so we should list them even if we won't be using Beryudora that much. Also there was a thread that was talking about changing the ability listing format for characters with a lot of abilities.
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Yeah that thread was kind of where I was coming from. But fair enough.
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Hey question
How is the Super-Dimension Eradication Bomb universal ?
Like i know it cause a dimension split and cause the universe it to collapse but from what it seem it created a black hole to suck in everything
Like how is get hit by it equal get hit by universal force
How is the Super-Dimension Eradication Bomb universal ?
Like i know it cause a dimension split and cause the universe it to collapse but from what it seem it created a black hole to suck in everything
Like how is get hit by it equal get hit by universal force
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I'm pretty sure if an attack's effect goes beyond physical borders and more to affecting invisible forces, it doesn't matter if you're hit directly or not. Plus, Belial stood right in its epicenter, where the energy would have been sourced from.
You're not still debating with redditors, aren't you?
Oh. Ohhhh. Come on, I've explained this many times. The black hole is irrelevant, it is the total collapse, not the explosive force. The SCW itself states that it's the bomb's explosive power that caused the dimensional faults. And Geed's prologue,the explosion already triggered a black hole-like effect that was sucking in the stars long before the actual black hole appeared. Long story short, the explosion already contained the destructive power, the black hole is the final effect.
You're not still debating with redditors, aren't you?
Oh. Ohhhh. Come on, I've explained this many times. The black hole is irrelevant, it is the total collapse, not the explosive force. The SCW itself states that it's the bomb's explosive power that caused the dimensional faults. And Geed's prologue,the explosion already triggered a black hole-like effect that was sucking in the stars long before the actual black hole appeared. Long story short, the explosion already contained the destructive power, the black hole is the final effect.
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Oh i just asking
No i am no debating with the redditor
Second could you give me the SCW pls
No i am no debating with the redditor
Second could you give me the SCW pls
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Thanks
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Oh right Episode Z magazine scans and stuff.
Apparently Destrudos is called the strongest monster here. So I guess Destrudos might be going the Greeza route where the final boss of the previous series is stronger than the final boss of the later series. Or maybe this is just a different variant that is stronger than the original one. Which would also be going the Greeza route but the Z version.
Apparently Destrudos is called the strongest monster here. So I guess Destrudos might be going the Greeza route where the final boss of the previous series is stronger than the final boss of the later series. Or maybe this is just a different variant that is stronger than the original one. Which would also be going the Greeza route but the Z version.
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BTW should ultra dark killer be abstract existance consider he is the embodiment of hatred
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Ah yeah, I saw those, and the statement. Honestly either way is fine as long as they can explain how he can still be there.
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Probably not, the same aspect exists in Yapool as well and I remember that it was disagreed on for the time being. Or maybe that was just for Baraba.
Ah yeah, I saw those, and the statement. Honestly either way is fine as long as they can explain how he can still be there.
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Probably not, the same aspect exists in Yapool as well and I remember that it was disagreed on for the time being. Or maybe that was just for Baraba.
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Oh right also just mentioning this thread was a thing and has been accepted.
So I was wondering does the current Ultraman creating a constellation need to be redone or does it already follow whatever the calcing format shown here is?
So I was wondering does the current Ultraman creating a constellation need to be redone or does it already follow whatever the calcing format shown here is?
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I... don't think there's any need for revision. From what I understand, creation feats on celestial bodies still adhere to their GBE which I did follow, and I assume that creating multiple still uses the same process. So yeah, I don't think any changes is necessary.
The only problem I can think of is the possible variation in sizes of the stars, but that's a whole other can of worms that the staff at TsuPro didn't take note of.
The only problem I can think of is the possible variation in sizes of the stars, but that's a whole other can of worms that the staff at TsuPro didn't take note of.
