Giannysmag
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This has been a long time coming.
The Traveler from their Inazuma key and onward should be 6-C for a few reasons.
When first arriving in Inazuma they where completely destroyed and almost killed by the Raiden Shogun, however after going through Yae Miko's Anti-Raiden Shogun training they are able to contend and clash with the Shogun. Now they are still weaker since they need the amp from the 99 visions to beat her and Yae even comments about how the Traveler is "cutting it rather close", but they should still downscale from Raiden's 6-C+ in base and outright scale to her with the vision amp.
Then we get to Sumeru where the Traveler fights the Shouki no Kami who is stated several times to be on the level of the gods (it was agreed in this thread that while Shouki no Kami doesn't scale to the archons it should be on par with gods like Andrius). Now while the Traveler is once a again weaker, they are still capable of damaging Kami as well as tanking it's attacks, even the elemental ones.
Finally we reach Fontaine where the Hydro Archon Furina challenges the Traveler to a duel, to which the Traveler accepts saying "Fighting Gods? I got a resume". Now while Furina is likely not as strong as the other archons considering she doesn't even wanna fight Tartaglia, the Traveler wouldn't know this. All they know is that Furina is an archon who still has access to her Gnosis yet they where still confident in fighting her.
All of this to say that while the Traveler isn't outright archon level yet, they are approaching that level. So i propose changing they're ratings to:
The Traveler from their Inazuma key and onward should be 6-C for a few reasons.
When first arriving in Inazuma they where completely destroyed and almost killed by the Raiden Shogun, however after going through Yae Miko's Anti-Raiden Shogun training they are able to contend and clash with the Shogun. Now they are still weaker since they need the amp from the 99 visions to beat her and Yae even comments about how the Traveler is "cutting it rather close", but they should still downscale from Raiden's 6-C+ in base and outright scale to her with the vision amp.
Then we get to Sumeru where the Traveler fights the Shouki no Kami who is stated several times to be on the level of the gods (it was agreed in this thread that while Shouki no Kami doesn't scale to the archons it should be on par with gods like Andrius). Now while the Traveler is once a again weaker, they are still capable of damaging Kami as well as tanking it's attacks, even the elemental ones.
Finally we reach Fontaine where the Hydro Archon Furina challenges the Traveler to a duel, to which the Traveler accepts saying "Fighting Gods? I got a resume". Now while Furina is likely not as strong as the other archons considering she doesn't even wanna fight Tartaglia, the Traveler wouldn't know this. All they know is that Furina is an archon who still has access to her Gnosis yet they where still confident in fighting her.
All of this to say that while the Traveler isn't outright archon level yet, they are approaching that level. So i propose changing they're ratings to:
City Block level pre-Yae Miko's training (Stronger than their Liyue counterpart), At least Island level post-Yae Miko's training (Went through Yae Miko's anti-Raiden Shogun training. Although weaker they can contend and clash with Raiden Ei), Island level+ with Vision Buff (Defeated Raiden Ei by accumulating the power of all visions embedded in the Statue of the Omnipresent god) | At least Island level (Stronger than their Inazuma counterpart. Although weaker they can fight and damage the Shouki no Kami, eventually defeating it using the combined knowledge of the people in Sumeru)
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