The Stardust Crusader vs The Huntress-In-Training (8-0-0) (Grace)

[Baken384]

Jotaro Kujo (Part 3) VS Yang Xiao Long
my next jotaro match up in the jotaro vs list

• Jotaro is at his Prime
• Jotaro's Time Stop is Restricted for this match up
• Yang is in her first key
• Speed Equalized
• Match takes place at the same place where Jotaro and DIO first fought

The Stardust Crusader: 8(TheGunsFinalWrath, Scottycj256, SemiRaedi, Soma_King, M3X, Blue, TyrannoDoom30, TauanVictor)
The Huntress-In-Training:
Inconclusive:

 

[Spinoirr]

Even though yang is definitely more skilled at fighting as jotato

That really doesn't matter thanks to time stop however each one of his punches he spams out will power up her Semblance that can absorb the KE of each punch and she can store it to amp herself with it and then multiple that by 2 times to send all those punches back twice as hard, also it real depends if her aura can live his time stop beating really

 

[Baken384]

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[Baken384]

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[Baken384]

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[Spinoirr]

also I should point out that his timestop has a cooldown and he's only high 8-C when sufficiently angry

 

[Spinoirr]

It would most likely end up like the fight with Sheer Heart Attack, jotaro tries punching yang, yang doesnt go down and keeps coming at him, he timestops and pummels yang, yang keeps coming at him, Burns, and oneshots him

Also his timestop in part 3 is only for a second or two as he only just obtained it, not like part 4 where he spent years training it like dio did

 

[Chariot190]

also I should point out that his timestop has a cooldown and he's only high 8-C when sufficiently angry

Time Stop really doesn't have a cooldown unless we're using Part 6. There's a reason why his sustainability has an E in Part 6 in the MIH arc specifically (it's becomes his ass was in a coma for 4 months).

The cooldown is never mentioned before that point, in fact we're shown the opposite, he uses it in succession, with no obvious delay between them at certain points like against Ratt.

Also his timestop in part 3 is only for a second or two as he only just obtained it,

His time stop in Part 3 is actually the full five seconds, we're told that twice in both the manga itself and guides, Jotaro's time stop was at its best coincidentally right when he got it.

not like part 4 where he spent years training it like dio did

The exact opposite is true here. Jotaro actually stopped bothering with time stop for a whole decade and when Part 4 started he could only stop time for half a second, and by the end he could stop it for 2 seconds. He never hit 5 in Part 4.

Also Dio didn't even spend half a year training it, he only learned it he had a few months prior to the start of Part 3, and he hit a limit of 5 seconds because his body was weakened due to Jonathan rejecting him, don't know why his body being weakened mattered, but it did explicitly.

Edit: Actually funnily enough JoJoveller points out how Part 4's time stop is below Part 3.
"At first glance, he overwhelmed Josuke's Crazy Diamond. His ability to stop time is as short as two seconds compared to his heyday when he was 17 years old."

 

[TheGunsFinalWrath]

It would most likely end up like the fight with Sheer Heart Attack, jotaro tries punching yang, yang doesnt go down and keeps coming at him, he timestops and pummels yang, yang keeps coming at him, Burns, and oneshots him

Also his timestop in part 3 is only for a second or two as he only just obtained it, not like part 4 where he spent years training it like dio did

Well, guess somebody did correct you on that massive misinformation, though.....
"Keeps coming at him, and then she eventually one-shots him!" Thats if her opponent wasnt smart af not in just intellect, but mostly Fight IQ. She'd get played quite dirty here. Try hitting em then ig. Also, SP can always phase and seeing that just normal hits aint gonna work.. TS + Phashing and hit other parts of the body that is weak to knock her down easier. Anyways, back to the point: She'd get outskilled here by SP himself, funnily enough. "More precisive than machine" + that one "wtf" feat, which he somehow(SP) performed whilst in coma + weakened by age, said "wtf" precision feat is a quite broken precision/accuracy feat. She gets played dirtily here, badly.

Anyways, I'll just w a t c h here f o r n o w

 

[TheGunsFinalWrath]

(Also, why have there lately been "Jotaro equalized speed", and most especially: "Enraged"? Why not "bloodlusted"?

 

[Baken384]

(Also, why have there lately been "Jotaro equalized speed", and most especially: "Enraged"? Why not "bloodlusted"?

If the speed was not equalized Jotaro literally stomps by landing over 3 million punches onto Yang before she could even process the first punch.

It would most likely end up like the fight with Sheer Heart Attack, jotaro tries punching yang, yang doesnt go down and keeps coming at him, he timestops and pummels yang, yang keeps coming at him, Burns, and oneshots him

Jotaro would probably get pissed off if his initial ora barrages wouldn't do shit which increases his stand's strength even more. Jotaro would also let Star Platinum get pretty close to him so he could maximize Star Platinum's strength and speed since the closer SP is to Jotaro, the stronger and faster it is. If the further rage amps and the close range power type amp rules cannot oof Yang then he would be forced to use his phasing technique which is the last thing he would want to do.

For Burn one shotting, Jotaro haa good chances of avoiding being one shot such as using Star Platinum as a shield and punching Yang away or using time stop for both offense and defense. I could see Jotaro using time stop for ora barrage to land free hits onto Yang and ending with a knockback to knock her away. Jotaro would use his Stand leaps to try running if it gets too dangerous or try closing the gap with that and time stop in combination.

 

[Spinoirr]

Thats if her opponent wasn't smart af not in just intellect, but mostly Fight IQ.

Jotaro is definitely not more skilled than yang by any means. Yang just by having the ability to properly utilize an aura and semblance puts her in the top percentile of then most skilled people on the entire planet (In RWBY being able to use those abilities is canonically martial skill-based) on top of her having feats like beating Melanie and Militia Malachite, two world-class assassins trained by one of the most prestigious assassin training facilities on the planet, simultaneously without even using her semblance despite one of them using a fighting style that she struggles against, and beating them on two separate occasions, and beating Arslan Altan, a student of Shade Academy whose combat skill was analyzed alongside all of the students of all the combat schools in the world and determined to be among the most skilled students of any school.

Also, SP can always phase and seeing that just normal hits aint gonna work.. TS + Phashing and hit other parts of the body that is weak to knock her down easier.

Unless SP can phase through other Stands then that wont work due to Yang's aura being the equivalent of a Stand in every mechanical sense.

 

[Keeweed]

Yang can’t hurt Star Platinum, so Jotaro easily use it as a shield the whole time. Anytime he can’t properly block he’ll just time stop out of the way. Yang’s durability advantage relies on a Forcefield that acts like a health bar so the barrage of punches Jotaro is throwing is going to shred her aura and allow him to beat the crap out of her when it breaks.

Jotaro is probably less skilled in the more true fighting sense, but he’s vastly smarter and a much better strategist, so he can out think Yang and put her in a scenario she can’t escape from because she’ll be body blocked by a ghost that is constantly punching her.

How is aura like stands at all. Stands are literally the persons souls (at least in the lastest retcon), aura just comes from your soul. They aren’t the same.

 

[Spinoirr]

Time Stop really doesn't have a cooldown unless we're using Part 6. There's a reason why his sustainability has an E in Part 6 in the MIH arc specifically (it's becomes his ass was in a coma for 4 months).

The cooldown is never mentioned before that point, in fact we're shown the opposite, he uses it in succession, with no obvious delay between them at certain points like against Ratt.

Jotaro Kujo

Jotaro Kujo (空条 承太郎 Kūjō Jōtarō) is the grandson of Joseph Joestar, the third "JoJo" in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, and the main protagonist of Part III: Stardust Crusaders. A short-tempered, troublemaking delinquent, he discovers that he is haunted by an "evil spirit" in 1988, and, fearing this...

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Weaknesses: He can only stop time for up to five seconds with Star Platinum: The World, and must wait a moment before he can use it again due to how taxing it is on the body.

Star Platinum: The World: Unlike DIO, Jotaro is only human, and repetitive use of the ability is extremely taxing on his stamina thus making it a requirement to take some pause between each use.

This is what is on Jotaro's page. Might want to do a crt if you think its wrong.

His time stop in Part 3 is actually the full five seconds, we're told that twice in both the manga itself and guides, Jotaro's time stop was at its best coincidentally right when he got it.

His profile and the jojo wiki both say otherwise

 

[Keeweed]

Yeah, a moment, an incredibly tiny one that is like a second.

Yang isn’t going to be able to capitalize on that at all.

 

[Spinoirr]

How is aura like stands at all. Stands are literally the persons souls (at least in the lastest retcon), aura just comes from your soul. They aren’t the same.

This ability is a manifestation of the user's soul, an invisible force which only a handful of the strongest people ever gain the ability to use, which grants the user abilities wholly unique to them, can be trained with in order to use their abilities more efficiently and potentially evolve their abilities through training or from from emotional events.

Is this the description of Stands or Aura/Semblances?

 

[M3X_2.0]

Weaknesses: He can only stop time for up to five seconds with Star Platinum: The World, and must wait a moment before he can use it again due to how taxing it is on the body.

Star Platinum: The World: Unlike DIO, Jotaro is only human, and repetitive use of the ability is extremely taxing on his stamina thus making it a requirement to take some pause between each use.

This is what is on Jotaro's page. Might want to do a crt if you think its wrong.

Yeah, not anymore. Already removed that, since it's wrong information. Part 3 Jotro has 5 seconds time stop and the weaknesses is only for his Stone Ocean self.

 

[Keeweed]

You are describing the similarities while ignoring the big difference. Stands are actually your soul. When a stand dies you die because that was your soul. Aura is not your soul, when it breaks the user doesn’t just get wrecked.

Though even assuming they are the same, a ghost in part 4 couldn’t interact with stands. So unless Yang can interact with something that people with non physical interaction can’t interact with, she’s getting body blocked and punched.

 

[Spinoirr]

Yeah, not anymore. Already removed that, since it's wrong information. Part 3 Jotro has 5 seconds time stop and the weaknesses is only for his Stone Ocean self.

Uh dude, don't you need to make a CRT to remove a weakness, even if it may be false information

 

[M3X_2.0]

No

 

[Spinoirr]

Also the 'only stands can hurt other stands' argument, isn't accepted on this wiki And Jotaro is only baseline according to his profile, so unless SP has feats of blocking things that are over 4x his durability Yang's punches would hurt just fine

 

[M3X_2.0]

Then you might as well wait for the revisions.

 

[TheGunsFinalWrath]

If the speed was not equalized Jotaro literally stomps by landing over 3 million punches onto Yang before she could even process the first punch.

I wasnt specifically talking about those at the tier of Yang, but sure ig.

 

[Keeweed]

Also the 'only stands can hurt other stands' argument, isn't accepted on this wiki And Jotaro is only baseline according to his profile, so unless SP has feats of blocking things that are over 4x his durability Yang's punches would hurt just fine

It’s not about ‘only stands can hurt stands’, it’s about Star Platinum being a literal ghost. She can’t hit it while it can block her hits.

 

[Spinoirr]

Penny has a artificial soul by transferring part of Pietro's aura into her and its confirmed that their aura is their soul in the novels too
"In RWBY: Before the Dawn, Shade Academy students discover that Grimm are not only attracted to negative emotions, but also their very souls – their Aura. "

Also, it's literally canon that every living thing on remnant that isn't Grimm has Aura, just that only a handful of people can use it for stuff like forcefields

 

[Keeweed]

If aura is there souls then they should die when it shatters because that means their souls would shatter. You are arguing Rwby characters have non physical interaction when they don’t have it on their profiles.

 

[StekFence]

Then you might as well wait for the revisions.

The post where it says ”and beated him” should say just beat right?

 

[Spinoirr]

If aura is there souls then they should die when it shatters because that means their souls would shatter. You are arguing Rwby characters have non physical interaction when they don’t have it on their profiles.

Aura isn't the forcefield though, it's actually that the forcefield is made of aura

 

[Baken384]

Then you might as well wait for the revisions.

Bruuh when that coming

 

[M3X_2.0]

Bruuh when that coming

in a few weeks

 

[Baken384]

so unless SP has feats of blocking things that are over 4x his durability Yang's punches would hurt just fine

If Jotaro was angry enough aka his Peak, I'm pretty sure he can block that quite easily. It literally one shot something that's baseline High 8-C

 

[Spinoirr]

Then shouldn't this match be on hold?

 

[Keeweed]

Aura isn't the forcefield though, it's actually that the forcefield is made of aura

Then Stands are different then. The Rwby characters don’t physically touch their aura, they touch the forcefield.

Stands are actually the souls, when giorno had his soul pulled out it was his stand and when stands are destroyed the user dies.

 

[Nierre]

Then shouldn't this match be on hold?

Then you might as well wait for the revisions.

 

[Baken384]

The Chad Jotaro does not need those revisions to win.. He can stand on his own two feet even without it..

 

[Spinoirr]

If jotaro has spammable timestop though I don't see how that matchup is fair
Yang wins by a wide margin due to Jotaro needing to cooldown between timestops, if he doesnt have that anymore then Yang has no wincon

 

[Keeweed]

Yeah I think those revisions just make it as close to a stomp you can get without it being a stomp. Without the revisions Star Platinum just body blocks and any time Yang gets close to landing a hit Jotaro time stops.

Even if the time stop had a cool down it is literally less than a second. Yang isn’t gaining anything with that short of a window.

 

[Baken384]

How bout I put Yang in her SECOND KEY?!?!

 

[Spinoirr]

Yeah I think those revisions just make it as close to a stomp you can get without it being a stomp. Without the revisions Star Platinum just body blocks and any time Yang gets close to landing a hit Jotaro time stops.

Even if the time stop had a cool down it is literally less than a second. Yang isn’t gaining anything with that short of a window.

Apparently someone removed that weakness from his profile

 

[Baken384]

Apparently someone removed that weakness from his profile

off topic but i took the opportunity to add in the other jotaro match ups i made that had been stuck in the vs additions limbo when jotaro's profile was unlocked earlier