Wait.
Info, of course.
Check wikipedia's sources or scholarly search engines like refseek or google scholar. You'll have more luck there.
I've seen some of the ones you've mentioned. (Apparently Maraapunisaurus and Amphicoelias are synonymous now, the former is the newer name while the latter is the older name, though there's still possibilities of them being slightly different genuses due to the species within them, and Bruhathkayosaurus and Barosaurus are also mentioned in the former article's description comparing sizes, due to being more recently updated than the latter article)
I'mma post the main articles for different types of armour, weapons and vehicles here:
We might need to rename and relocate some entry profiles both within the Real World page and within their individual pages + add more examples...I've seen some of the ones you've mentioned. (Apparently Maraapunisaurus and Amphicoelias are synonymous now, the former is the newer name while the latter is the older name, though there's still possibilities of them being slightly different genuses due to the species within them, and Bruhathkayosaurus and Barosaurus are also mentioned in the former article's description comparing sizes, due to being more recently updated than the latter article)
I could post articles mentioning them here for more information:
Largest organisms - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Largest and heaviest animals - Wikipedia
Also:
I'mma post the main articles for different types of armour, weapons and vehicles here:
(main article for armour)Armour - Wikipedia
Body armor - Wikipedia
Shield - Wikipedia
(mostly the bombsuit and NBC suit, but the spacesuit could technically also be considered since they use similar materials in certain components to protect against radiation and micrometeoroids and the like)Usage of personal protective equipment - Wikipedia
(main article for weapons)Weapon - Wikipedia
Ranged weapon - Wikipedia
Melee weapon - Wikipedia
(main article for vehicles)Vehicle - Wikipedia
Vehicle armour - Wikipedia
And for extra information, as to general extremes/records in the real world:
(the category section)World record - Wikipedia
Lists of extreme points - Wikipedia
Order of magnitude - Wikipedia
(pretty sure I've mentioned them before, but worth posting again)
OK EVERYONE, I HAVE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT NEWS, I NEED EVERYONE HERE TO READ THIS!
Real World Page Entry Addition And Arrangement Modification Discussion Thread (ie/tldr Real World Discussion Thread)
****While you could technically use armor as a blunt force weapon. Their attack potency is optional if they don't have any notable attack attributes that stand out (spikes, being an effective blunt force weapon unlike most items in real life, etc) I decided to bold this part since the line...vsbattles.com
WE'RE GOOD TO GO!
THE PROPOSAL FOR THE RESTRUCTURING AND REORGANISATION OF THE REAL WORLD PAGE HAS BEEN GIVEN THE GREENLIGHT/GO-AHEAD BY ANT, BAMBU AND MEDEUS!
(READ THE LAST POST IN THE THREAD ^ TO LEARN WHAT THIS ENTAILS AKA HOW WE ARE GOING TO RESTRUCTURE THE PAGE!)
THIS WILL MEAN A DRASTIC CHANGE IN THE APPEARANCE OF PROFILES OF REAL WORLD ENTRIES AND THE APPEARANCE OF THE VERSE PAGE ITSELF, SO I WOULD URGENTLY REQUEST YOU ALL TO HOLD OFF/HALT/PUT ALL INDIVIDUAL REAL WORLD PROFILE EDITS OR MATCH-UPS INVOLVING THE REAL WORLD ON STANDBY UNTIL THIS RESTRUCTURING/REORGANISATION PROCESS IS COMPLETE!
Thank you for acknowledging this notice.
Real World Page Entry Addition And Arrangement Modification Discussion Thread (ie/tldr Real World Discussion Thread)
****While you could technically use armor as a blunt force weapon. Their attack potency is optional if they don't have any notable attack attributes that stand out (spikes, being an effective blunt force weapon unlike most items in real life, etc) I decided to bold this part since the line...
Could you all help restructure the Real World page and entries according to the summary of the agreed-upon proposal conditions linked here ^? Please and thank you.
^^^Additionally, ^ after said process is complete:
Median lethal dose - Wikipedia
List of human disease case fatality rates - Wikipedia
List of natural disasters by death toll - Wikipedia
Draft:List of anthropogenic disasters by death toll - Wikipedia
We should probably add:
Clostridium
(cause of botulinum and tetani being the bacteria that produce the most potent, lowest LD50 poisons)
Prions, Yersinia, Lyssavirus, Trypanosoma and Leishmania
(cause of transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (prions), Yersinia pestis (Black Death bacteria), Rabies lyssavirus (Rabies virus), Trypanosoma brucei and Leishmania (African trypanosomiasis/sleeping sickness and visceral leishmaniasis parasitic protozoa) causing the deadliest (most unlikely to survive AND/OR causing the most deaths) diseases)
As for events, maybe we can add the deadliest of each type of natural disaster (I'm not sure if anthropogenic/man-made disasters can be included too, but worth asking).
Amphicoelias is still valid, as its type species is the much smaller ~25 m Amphicoelias altus and not the giant "Amphicoelias" fragilimus (now known as Maraapunisaurus fragilimus)I've seen some of the ones you've mentioned. (Apparently Maraapunisaurus and Amphicoelias are synonymous now, the former is the newer name while the latter is the older name, though there's still possibilities of them being slightly different genuses due to the species within them, and Bruhathkayosaurus and Barosaurus are also mentioned in the former article's description comparing sizes, due to being more recently updated than the latter article)
I could post articles mentioning them here for more information:
Largest organisms - Wikipedia
Largest and heaviest animals - Wikipedia
Yeah, I noticed that the fragilimus species was relocated from Amphicoelias to Maraapunisaurus, and as for Barosaurus, while you're correct, Barosaurus and Supersaurus both deserve to be considered as contenders given the genus and species differences as mentioned in the article.
prehistoric-wiki.fandom.com
genealogyinvestigations.co.nz
Yeah, I noticed that the fragilimus species was relocated from Amphicoelias to Maraapunisaurus, and as for Barosaurus, while you're correct, Barosaurus and Supersaurus both deserve to be considered as contenders given the genus and species differences as mentioned in the article.
Barosaurus - Wikipedia
Also I'm not sure about Hector's Icthyosaur, I could only find these:
Hector's ichthyosaur
Hector's ichthyosaur is a provisional, indeterminate genus of large shastasaurid ichthyosaur that lived in New Zealand during the Late Triassic. The first remains, fragmentary vertebral centra, were discovered from the Mount Potts region near Canterbury, South Island in the Daonella Zone (Lower...
Hector's ichthyosaur
In 1874, the remains of huge vertebrae were found at Mount Potts in Canterbury. They were so big, that if they belonged to a creature it would be the biggest to be ever found on earth. The beast...
No Wikipedia article so far... (though that should not mean it's not valid, it's just not well-known enough)
But here's two other creatures that should also be considered (also linked a while back):
Ichthyotitan - Wikipedia
(mentioned in Wikipedia in the link below)
Azhdarchidae - Wikipedia
The Aust one is "tentatively" linked to Icthyotitan.
.
Then make one. It's not like you're permabanned from redditand sorry, I have no Reddit account
yeah but I'm not interested in making and managing more accounts, there's enough as it is now
damn it...
We can't; that thing doesn't have even a highly inaccurate weight figure tacked onto it.damn it...
but hey, we now have these:
Ichthyotitan - Wikipedia
can we calculate these?
... it'd be possible to scale up from other related or similarly large creatures though, right? (Could work but see first)
Again Hector's Ichthyosaur might be small building level I think
You can scale it from Shastasaurus sikannensis though. Should be about 80 t for the Lilstock specimen and 180 t for the Aust specimen. Blue whale sized. Calculations based on 40 t estimate for Shastasaurus sikanniensis
Yeah, it does work.... it'd be possible to scale up from other related or similarly large creatures though, right? (Could work but see first)
Shastasaurus - Wikipedia
Shonisaurus - Wikipedia
AFAIK, the reason why Spinosaurus facts and sizes are variable and disputed is due to most of the fossils of it being within an aquatic habitat.
No? Tyrannosaurus BHI 6248 E.D. Cope is 12.7 m and 11 tonnes, Spinosaurinae indet. MSNM V4047 is about 14.7 m and 8.1 t.
Spinosaurus facts and sizes are also variable because it's a huge taxonomic mess composed of mostly non-overlapping fragmentary material making it practically impossible to tell what is Spinosaurus and what is not Spinosaurus with current data. The material that overlaps shows several separate morphotypes (three dorsal neural spine morphotypes, three cervical morphotypes, two quadrate morphotypes etc.).
I'm not always refering to weight when O say size. I meant length here. Btw, you can calc the J value of the spino. You just have to figure out it's GPE and how high it stood up.
well yeah, some Kem Kem spinosaurines (like MSNM V4047 and NHMUK R16421) are the longest theropods (~14.5 m). Tyrannosaurus is by far the heaviest theropod though (technically Giganotosaurus MUCPv-95 gets close at about 10 t but it's also sigificanly less complete and less reliable).
NGL, you should join the dino discussion thread.
i copied it from the giganotosaurus page and fair
ig it's not very active but cool, thanksDinosaur general discussion thread
a place to discuss dinosaurs both fictional and real life. (It would just belong to real world discussion thread but since I’m including fictional ones and the fact that dinosaurs stand out as a group is the reason I’m making this) What’s your favorite dinosaur and why?
Unless if the animal in question could do feats that are like tanking running into a hard immovable wall, and regularly charges as a method of attack, it doesn't make sense to use KE as a method of AP.
I could give you examples as to why it doesn't make sense.
