The Orochi ray pushes the Earth's core apart

[Qawsedf234]

I don't think we should just go to Murata or ONE and ask what Boros' attacks does or whether CSRC leaves some crater or not.

Yeah that's against the rules. What I was saying is more like

• Anon: Hey ONE, how did Mumen Rider get to the city with the Deep Sea King so fast when he lives in City Z?
• ONE: Idk he was getting some milk that day and happened to be nearby

Also earlier, I proposes just using the standard surface wiping calc as a lowball if we can't come up with a certain method. Thoughts?

Yeah that's fine.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Neat.

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

Yeah that's against the rules. What I was saying is more like

• Anon: Hey ONE, how did Mumen Rider get to the city with the Deep Sea King so fast when he lives in City Z?
• ONE: Idk he was getting some milk that day and happened to be nearby

Yeah that's fine.

Gotta bike across cities to get milk? That sucks.

Jokes aside, I think I understand now.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Gotta bike across cities to get milk? That sucks

It must truly be dystopian for milk to be available in like one city only

 

[LordTracer]

Soooooooo if we’re nuking Orochi’s feat, he’s gonna end up going down to “At least 6-C” due to scaling above Homeless Emperor and Geryuganshoop.

 

[Worthless]

What happen to thing's now?

 

[NJZanDatsu]

Throwing away Orochi's feat would be pure nonsense.

 

[Worthless]

Wait they're gonna disregard that shit? For what reason, exactly.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Were you not there during the past 2 pages?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Throwing away Orochi's feat would be pure nonsense.

And why so?

 

[Worthless]

Were you not there during the past 2 pages?

I'm like offline for 2 days

What exactly the reason why they gonna throw that shit away?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I'm like offline for 2 days

What exactly the reason why they gonna throw that shit away?

Because it messes with the scaling of it and is the only Tier 5 feat to begin with. And Orochi is below characters to are consistently in Tier 6

 

[Worthless]

Because it messes with the scaling of it and is the only Tier 5 feat to begin with. And Orochi is below characters to are consistently in Tier 6

That again? DC might not be the case but AP is still an option. I've seen shit AP is planetary but their DC ain't no even near to their AP like saibaman it's scales to planetary but the strongest (Self destruct) attack it showed is barely building level.

And if we go by this logic y'all gonna disregard Garou future feats if it somewhere surpassed stronger attack of someone he's comparable to? Cool story bro.

 

[LordTracer]

I've seen shit AP is planetary but their DC ain't no even near to their AP like saibaman it's scales to planetary but the strongest (Self destruct) attack it showed is barely building level.

Completely different verse with completely different mechanics.

And if we go by this logic y'all gonna disregard Garou future feats if it somewhere surpassed stronger attack of someone he's comparable to? Cool story bro.

And who said Awakened Garou in the manga is going to be comparable to Boros? That statement from ONE refers to the webcomic, which doesn’t cross-scale with the manga.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

That again? DC might not be the case but AP is still an option. I've seen shit AP is planetary but their DC ain't no even near to their AP like saibaman it's scales to planetary but the strongest (Self destruct) attack it showed is barely building level.

Because DB is already consistent with its Tier 5 feats and statements. OPM is not consistent with that category. You can't compare the two at all

And if we go by this logic y'all gonna disregard Garou future feats if it somewhere surpassed stronger attack of someone he's comparable to? Cool story bro.

No one other than Saitama (And possibly Boros) scales to Awakened Garou. What are you talking about lmao

 

[Worthless]

Completely different verse with completely different mechanics.

That Doesn't make sense.

And who said Awakened Garou in the manga is going to be comparable to Boros? That statement from ONE refers to the webcomic, which doesn’t cross-scale with the manga.

ONE never specifically said it's only on webcomic and we already know ONE is the one handling who win and lose on shit it explicitly stated by Murata in Q&A.

Because DB is already consistent with its Tier 5 feats and statements. OPM is not consistent with that category. You can't compare the two at all

Cool story but that doesn't gonna change to anything I've said.

I'll repeat. Y'all don't really know how it'll went if saitama didn't neg his CSRC.

No one other than Saitama (And possibly Boros) scales to Awakened Garou. What are you talking about lmao.

It's easy author himsel said that they're comparable. Boros strongest attack is tier 6 but if Garou future feats somehow manage to reach tier 5 y'all gonna throw it away just cause the one he comparables strongest attack to is only tier 6? Cool story.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

It's easy author himsel said that they're comparable. Boros strongest attack is tier 6 but if Garou future feats somehow manage to reach tier 5 y'all gonna throw it away just cause the one he comparables strongest attack is only tier 6? Cool story

Then simply disregard the statement lmao. AG didn't even exist in the manga when the statement was made. It can easily be outdated

 

[Kachon123]

I still don't see the Orochi feat as an outlier.

 

[Worthless]

Then simply disregard the statement lmao. AG didn't even exist in the manga when the statement was made. It can easily be outdated

This the same time when Murata stated Garou vs saitama fight is gonna be more destructive than Boros vs Saitama. And that doesn't change the scaling at all. Like i said above author is still the one handling power scaling.

If y'all gonna trash it away just cause the DC of someones stronger than him is weaker than him y'all better throw concept of AP then since shit been seeing a lot of high AP but their DC ain't no even near to their shit AP.

 

[LordTracer]

ONE never specifically said it's only on webcomic and we already know ONE is the one handling who win and lose on shit it explicitly stated by Murata in Q&A.

Awakened Garou didn’t exist in the manga when the statement was made, so yeah, it’s webcomic-only lol.

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Why would orochi feat be outlier again?

 

[Kachon123]

Why would orochi feat be outlier again?

Because CSRC is weaker than the feat...

 

[Dual_Binoculars]

I don't really get why we would use CSRC has a good example for why Orochi's feat is a outlier we heavy lowball it due to not knowing enough about it. With Psykorchi's feat it could also be a lot higher, but we also lowball it. If you guys don't like the results just re-calc with with something other than KE

 

[LordTracer]

Because CSRC is weaker than the feat...

That’s not even close to being the only reason.

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Because CSRC is weaker than the feat...

Why, does CSRC needs to be higher than orochi feat?

 

[LordTracer]

Orochi’s feat is an outlier because it is astronomically higher than literally every other feat in the series so far, including those performed by characters vastly stronger than him such as Boros, Psykorochi and Tatsumaki, all of whom consistently perform Tier 6 feats and Boros’ CSRC, his most powerful technique that’s far above everything else in his arsenal, is High 6-A.

And before anyone says; “but we lowball the CSRC,” the most generous interpretation you’re getting for it is melting, which we already calced ages ago, and it was still High 6-A.

Orochi having a Tier 5 feat in spite of all this is the textbook definition of an outlier.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Orochi’s feat is an outlier because it is astronomically higher than literally every other feat in the series so far, including those performed by characters vastly stronger than him such as Boros, Psykorochi and Tatsumaki, all of whom consistently perform Tier 6 feats and Boros’ CSRC, his most powerful technique that’s far above everything else in his arsenal, is High 6-A.

And before anyone says; “but we lowball the CSRC,” the most generous interpretation you’re getting for it is melting, which we already calced ages ago, and it was still High 6-A.

Orochi having a Tier 5 feat in spite of all this is the textbook definition of an outlier.

Also I'd like to point out that Psykorochi's best feat isn't that high into High 6-A either.

 

[ByAsura]

I still don't see the Orochi feat as an outlier.

Neither do I, tbh (though I'm mostly neutral).

This discussion only happened because I said even some of the higher methods of the CSRC weren't even close to Orochi's feat. I just wanted to dump any CSRC calculations, use surface-wiping as a supporting feat and move on to the Orochi stuff.

 

[Dual_Binoculars]

I think you guys calling the feat an outlier are jumping the gun. The feat has been out for what like a month or two? Its not like we're 100+ chapters past the feat and no one has preformed anything close to it. If we were 2-3 arcs later and no one has preformed anything close to it or the feat was close or straight up 5-B I would probably agree with u.

 

[LordTracer]

I think you guys calling the feat an outlier are jumping the gun. The feat has been out for what like a month or two? Its not like we're 100+ chapters past the feat and no one has preformed anything close to it. If we were 2-3 arcs later and no one has preformed anything close to it or the feat was close or straight up 5-B I would probably agree with u.

That doesn’t change the fact that it’s literally thousands of times higher than every feat performed by characters far stronger than Orochi. That is an outlier by definition.

If the Psykorochi fight was redrawn and she ended up getting a Tier 5 feat, then Orochi’s feat could be consistent. But right now? It’s very, very, very inconsistent with every other feat in the series.

 

[PrinceofPein]

An Outlier is an event or incident that is considered to be completely and irreconcilably inconsistent with a character, entity, group, or series' normal displayed level of power.

Yeah it is an Outlier, when low 5B is performed by a character way weaker in a series where the other feats by the ones stronger are tier 6

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

low 5B

5-C+ actually

 

[PrinceofPein]

5-C+ actually

It has been reduced, it would still be an outlier

 

[Purgy]

The difference between Orochi's feat and Boros surface scorching feat is 330x

Wouldn't really call that an outlier.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

The difference between Orochi's feat and Boros surface scorching feat is 330x

We're not gonna be using Boros' surface scorching feat tho.

 

[Purgy]

We're not gonna be using Boros' surface scorching feat tho.

It's listed on his profile

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

It's listed on his profile

Well it's boutta get removed

 

[PrinceofPein]

The difference between Orochi's feat and Boros surface scorching feat is 330x

Wouldn't really call that an outlier.

The difference between the strongest attack from Boros someone way stronger than Orochi is 330X and that is not an outlier?

 

[Purgy]

The difference between the strongest attack from Boros someone way stronger than Orochi is 330X and that is not an outlier?

Not really no

As it says on the outlier page;

An Outlier is an event or incident that is considered to be completely and irreconcilably inconsistent with a character, entity, group, or series' normal displayed level of power.

Irreconcilably inconsistent would be something like a Tier 7 randomly destroying a star, or a Tier 5 destroying a galaxy.

Orochi's feat is barely a full tier higher than Boros's highest feat.

Would you say that a baseline High 6-A performing a High 6-A+ feat is an outlier? Because the difference between that is far greater than the difference between Orochi and Boros's feat.

The outlier argument gets thrown around way too often to dismiss feats here

 

[PrinceofPein]

Would you say that a baseline High 6-A performing a High 6-A+ feat is an outlier? Because the difference between that is far greater than the difference between Orochi and Boros's feat.

I think this is wrong, boros feat is High 6A while orochi is 5C+

So I don't think this is a good equivalency.

But a High 6A to High 6A+ can't be an outlier as that is consistent.

But an attack that burned out the highest tier and does not scale to his own actual stats 330X less than Orochi someone Boros is stronger than