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I mean, he would since he'll use the heat vision immediately. Otherwise Goku wins this with SSJ. Worst case he turns SSJ2 and easily defeat Supes
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The most controversial debate continues... Son Goku vs Superman (7-20-16).
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I made an argument for why visible HV would work on the other thread.
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That's a valid point on the HV. Though that wasn't the only argument on the other thread.
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Speed is equalized and Goku dodging is a perfectly valid counterargument lol. Worst case he teleports out of the way. And for the people saying Goku won't transform immediately, I mean his transformation is instantaneous and he Goes to his higher forms all the time when he doesn't need to in DBS, even against weaker opponents. He will be able to sense Supes' energy and know that he needs to transform to stand a chance. Simple as that. Goku isn't stupid lol.
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Off the top of my head, the only other ones I recall were the molecular heat vision(which is the most valid) and Superman killing goku while he's still in base(which would be out of character for both of them) but other than that?
HV - molecular fuckery, lobotomise etc. Ice Breath. Phasing. Infinite Stamina. Punching into space with superior lifting strength (has been shown to one-punch others into space). Accuracy. Superman analysing everything about Goku and acting on it.
HV - molecular fuckery, lobotomise etc. Ice Breath. Phasing. Infinite Stamina. Punching into space with superior lifting strength (has been shown to one-punch others into space). Accuracy. Superman analysing everything about Goku and acting on it.
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Punching into space isn't a win con because Goku is stronger in SS forms, and can teleport back worst case. Infinite stamina is irrelevant as this won't be a lengthy fight either way, it's essentially a one-shot battle lol.
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Goku would die in the moment he reaches space due to the nature of vacuumUchihaSlayer96 said:
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He fought Beerus in Space and Bardock fought Frieza's entire Army in Space, so that doesn't make any sense.
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They werent outside of the atmosphere. Even the profiles states thisXSOULOFCINDERX said:
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Goku would die in the moment he reaches space due to the nature of vacuum
You actually remain conscious for a few seconds even as a regular human, and considering Saiyan toughness and natural adaptability he'd definitely survive long enough to teleport back, and that's assuming he gets overpowered in the first place which isn't happening when he's stronger.
You actually remain conscious for a few seconds even as a regular human, and considering Saiyan toughness and natural adaptability he'd definitely survive long enough to teleport back, and that's assuming he gets overpowered in the first place which isn't happening when he's stronger.
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Again heat vision will be dodged without issue.
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And Superman wouldn't use Planetary Heat Vision on Earth because ot's extremely ooc for him.
Again, why are the votes for him based on the HV argument are considered valid when it's very ooc for Supes?
Again, why are the votes for him based on the HV argument are considered valid when it's very ooc for Supes?
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HV is very in character. And refer to the other points
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The votes based on Planet sized HV were discounted at the start of the thread.
Anyways:
>Phasing
How much is IC for Superman to use it?
>Punching Goku all the way to space
Really unlikely as Goku has the AP advantage.
>Ice Breath
How often Supes leads with or uses it?
>Analysis
How good is it?
Anyways:
>Phasing
How much is IC for Superman to use it?
>Punching Goku all the way to space
Really unlikely as Goku has the AP advantage.
>Ice Breath
How often Supes leads with or uses it?
>Analysis
How good is it?
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Planetary HV on Earth? The Planet with all the people he constantly protect? That is ooc for Supes. Planetary HV on anywhere else is in character, but Superman would never fire a leathal HV on the entire planet knowing everyone he cares about is there, and no matter who he fights againstOblivion Of The Endless said:
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I wasnt talking about planetary stuff. Btw, per SBA there are only the two of them fighting on Earth, so bruh moment on thatGilad Hyperstar said:
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Wait why does Goku even have analytical prediction?
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They wouldn't know that they're the only people on Earth, and Goku will just dodge regular HV from Supes and win due to massively outskilling him
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...Superman would, given his amazing sense which can tell where you are in whatever point of the galaxyGilad Hyperstar said:
The HV dura negs and can be used as AoE
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If supes goes for an AOE Laser than Goku either Counters with his own Kamehameha or Teleports behind him and kicks his ass.
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Goku can sense Supes too. Being able to know where your opponent is located is not going to prevent them from dodging, especially with speed equalized. And it still doeen't prevent Goku from teleporting behind Supes or counter his attack with his own ki attacks
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Goku would attack too fast for that to happen, since he also needs to look back before he do the heat vision. That and he's going to be surprised by Goku teleporting right behind himOblivion Of The Endless said:
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Also small HV blasts won't kill Goku either way
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They'd certainly wound him. Also, aren't you the same guys who are saying that Supes wouldn't abuse intangibility? Why are you saying he'd warp Kamehameha on a whim when he's only used that once?
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