The King of Curses has a bad time

[TheRadiantSoul]

This proves my point.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

He can just adapt to it cause it probably won’t kill him fast enough

Sukuna would have 20 HP by default, which means he would be ****** in less than a second after bones touch him.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

This proves my point.

Genuinely, what? The profile says it is due to deductive reasoning + looking at expressions, not due to actually remembering anything. Unless you make a CRT and add Acausality Type 1 to his profile.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Just because he's lazy doesn't mean he won't fight. For example, he has killed Flowey many times.

He may have not known about anomaly at the time. As Papyrus notes in one of the calls, Sans became very lazy only recently. In the game, he won’t attack Frisk even if all monsters but Vulkin are killed.

Also, this doesn't fix the problem of him knowing nothing about Sukuna to be able to SI him.

And? He has EG intelligence, he would figure it out

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Sukuna would have 20 HP by default, which means he would be ****** in less than a second after bones touch him.

kinda a funny if Sukuna does but Mahoraga is left to rampage

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

kinda a funny if Sukuna does but Mahoraga is left to rampage

Honestly, what does Sukuna have to counter Sans’ Instinctive Action, even if we assume for SI not to work?

 

[TheRadiantSoul]

Sans definitely should have Accasuality Type 1. Has he knows about stuff ahead of time that would be impossible to figure out using simple deductive reasoning.

But regardless if he does or not it isn't really going to matter. He doesn't have the prior Knowledge to just SI Sukuna.

 

[koopa3144]

And? He has EG intelligence, he would figure it out

Just cause he as EG doesn't mean he can magically find the right words to say to Sukuna. Also, I don't think Sukuna would let him say a word before he's diced.

 

[TheRadiantSoul]

And nobody also seema to have brought up Sukuna's overwhelming Stamina Advantage

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

IA counters

Even Kusukabe who can act automatocally to wathever enters his Simple Domain has trouble to deal with these slashes

And have Sans ever used teleport in combat?

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Sans definitely should have Accasuality Type 1.

No

Has he knows about stuff ahead of time that would be impossible to figure out using simple deductive reasoning.

I would love to argue but that kinda doesn’t matter since not on profile

But regardless if he does or not it isn't really going to matter. He doesn't have the prior Knowledge to just SI Sukuna.

Prior knowledge is not necessary for SI. Also, Sans would get to know a lot about Sukuna just by looking at him, since he’s good at expressions.

 

[koopa3144]

And nobody also seema to have brought up Sukunas overwhelming Stamina Advantage

@LIFE_OF_KING did on page one;

If Sans hit Sukuna or anything theres no way that he would be capable to put him down for good. Sukuna's stamina and damage tolerance is something beyond insane. Plus, Sukuna has Domain Expansion , which would make any dodging chance null

Sukuna FRA

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

I’m glad I chose this battle instead of the other one I was planning on doing.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Just cause he as EG doesn't mean he can magically find the right words to say to Sukuna.

He would know about Sukuna a lot via looking at his expression

Also, I don't think Sukuna would let him say a word before he's diced.

Instinctive Action >

And nobody also seema to have brought up Sukuna's overwhelming Stamina Advantage

Even if Sans gets tired, he would simply use his Combat-applicable 4th Wall Breaking

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Even if Sans gets tired, he would simply use his Combat-applicable 4th Wall Breaking

Alright, but like, couldn’t mahoraga adapt to it?

 

[koopa3144]

Prior knowledge is not necessary for SI. Also, Sans would get to know a lot about Sukuna just by looking at him, since he’s good at expressions.

1. It's nlf to assume that he can get a lot of info about Sukuna by looking at him when at most he could know how many times Frisk died cause of how miffed they were
2. He wouldn't even get the time to read Sukuna's face before being diced.

Instinctive Action >

layered invisibility and Sans wouldn't be able to sense them due to not having cursed energy.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Isn’t this kinda NLF? Also Sukuna needs to get him to get tired, Sans, if SI won’t work, will just do this and end Sukuna very quickly

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

1. It's nlf to assume that he can get a lot of info about Sukuna by looking at him when at most he could how many times Frisk died cause of how miffed they were

He knew the exact number of how many times Frisk died or if they spared him, etc. It’s not really NLF. He has Information Analysis for a reason pal

1. He wouldn't even get the time to read Sukuna's face before being diced.

Instinctive Action exists. Also, again, is it Sukuna’s first move?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Again, Instinctive Action would barely work even against a casual Sukuna

EDIT: Wrong scan. Lazy to get the right one

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Again, Instinctive Action would barely work even against a casual Sukuna

I don’t see Instinctive Action negation on Sukuna’s profile

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

I don’t see Instinctive Action negation on Sukuna’s profile

It doesnt need that lol. You would need proof that Sans's IA could react to something with layered invisibility. Not even Kusukabe, who can passively turn Sukuna's slashes weaker and automatically react to anything to enter his domain, could deflect Sukuna's attack propely

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

It doesnt need that lol. You would need proof that Sans's IA could react to something with layered invisibility.

He did not see Frisk while sleeping, so not seeing invisible people wouldn’t be a problem

Not even Kusukabe, who can passively turn Sukuna's slashes weaker and automatically react to anything to enter his domain, could deflect Sukuna's attack propely

Then add IA negation to profile

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Damn these Undertale fans are never beating the brainrot allegations

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

He did not see Frisk while sleeping, so not seeing invisible people wouldn’t be a problem

Then add IA negation to profile

IA negation isn't a thing. It's all upto feats and methods how IA works.

 

[koopa3144]

Isn’t this kinda NLF? Also Sukuna needs to get him to get tired, Sans, if SI won’t work, will just do this and end Sukuna very quickly

Sukuna just kinda hits him with a Dismantle before Sans can even move his hand. Sukuna also has the skills and mobility to avoid it.

Instinctive Action exists. Also, again, is it Sukuna’s first move?

At a range it's pretty likey he starts with Dismantles. Also unless you have proof Sans can avoid slashes that he is incapable of sensing, he can't avoid Sukuna’s slashes

 

[Robo432343]

sukuna destroys sans on a multiversal level

 

[TheRadiantSoul]

He quickly gets tired trying to dodge all of Sukunas shit coming from every direction, then Sukuna uses to Malevolent Shrine, ending him instantly.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Nonetheless Sukuna FRA if it's not a stomp

 

[TheRadiantSoul]

Also what is with people on this site believing that if you have Instinctive Reaction you can't get hit by anything ever. If someone if spamming invisible and fast projectiles at you from every direction you are eventually going to slip up, especially if you have AVERAGE stamina.

 

[TheRadiantSoul]

I think it is a stomp. Most arguments given for Sans require alot of assumptions, or assume that he is has slow as Frisk.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Sukuna just kinda hits him with a Dismantle before Sans can even move his hand. Sukuna also has the skills and mobility to avoid it.

Sans dodges

At a range it's pretty likey he starts with Dismantles. Also unless you have proof Sans can avoid slashes that he is incapable of sensing, he can't avoid Sukuna’s slashes

IA is literally about that

 

[koopa3144]

Also what is with people on this site believing that if you have Instinctive Reaction you can't get eat but anything ever. If someone if spamming invisible and fast projectiles at you from every direction you are eventually going to slip up, especially if you have AVERAGE stamina.

If someone if spamming invisible and fast projectiles at you from every direction, it doesn't matter if you got IA your cooked

 

[Robo432343]

Sans dodges

 

[koopa3144]

Sans dodges

IA is literally about that

Also unless you have proof Sans can avoid slashes that he is incapable of sensing, he can't avoid Sukuna’s slashes

 

[TheRadiantSoul]

If someone if spamming invisible and fast projectiles at you from every direction, it doesn't matter if you got IA your cooked

Exactly

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Sukuna can literally spam this shit against Sans. Even with IA he won't have time to dodge all of that. He couldn't even dodge two attacks of Chara

Also, can sans even take Sukuna down? The man got blow up, lost more than half of his CE pool, got his body and soul disconnected little by little, lost his heart by a katana capable to ignore any substance to hit the soul, lost his arms, lost some eyes, had massive brain damage, got burned by Jacob's Ladder, and then said, "Nah, I'm barely tired" to Maki

 

[Tomfer]

Also what is with people on this site believing that if you have Instinctive Reaction you can't get hit by anything ever.

Because dodging a child with a knife is a far more impressive feat than dodging a layered invisible spatial slash, clearly.

 

[Robo432343]

If someone if spamming invisible and fast projectiles at you from every direction, it doesn't matter if you got IA your cooked

what about goku's ultra instinct??

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

sukuna destroys sans on a multiversal level

This a joke or an actual vote?

Nonetheless Sukuna FRA if it's not a stomp

I’ll count this

 

[koopa3144]

what about goku's ultra instinct??

He's just HIM;