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Except no. That's not how it works. All your arguments got counter arguments. So that's that. Our votes and reasons from the start still work. And we defended that. So the votes till count.
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The Joker vs The Spy
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It is fixed, though.
Common sense and courtesy allows for votes to be removed when they are old and don't respond to counterarguments. There were literally no Spy arguments before and no counterarguments against him now.
We gave you counterarguments. Just because you disagree doesn't mean they don't exist.
Common sense and courtesy allows for votes to be removed when they are old and don't respond to counterarguments. There were literally no Spy arguments before and no counterarguments against him now.
We gave you counterarguments. Just because you disagree doesn't mean they don't exist.
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Simply. Sptly still makes soubd while invisible. Batman doesn't make it while sneaking. Joker regularly deals with Batman's stealth. We've told you this before. It's the same way you spy check in game.
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^^^^^^The Wright Way said:
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As someone who has watched TF2 videos, you can. It's usually not noticeable in a loud battlefield, sure, but you can hear him. It's only ever in quiet areas, sure, but it can happen.
Also, Sniper literally heard him and turned around in his Meet The video if I recall correctly.
And, once again, none of the characters in TF2 gave Superman level hearing and Batman can still sneak past him
Also, Sniper literally heard him and turned around in his Meet The video if I recall correctly.
And, once again, none of the characters in TF2 gave Superman level hearing and Batman can still sneak past him
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Even so, the majority of the canon times Spy was heard was in close range. He could just use the watches for easy positioning and gun Joker down from a distance.
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No, Spy's screwed in CQC due to Joker Gas.
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Well, depends. Joker could riggy himself up- which, admittedly, is a good idea,CrackerVolley said:
Actually, hold up. Has he done that before? Because I want to know if he can hide it well. Since, with prior knowledge, he'll certainly prefer to shoot Joker in the face, but we can't ignore CQC if Joker can hide it, on his person, very well.
Might be a bit hard, given Joker's normal attire.
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Not to mention, Joker gets beat up in hand-to-hand. Even if he does hear, he'll still get his ass kicked, knife or guns.
Seriously, Joker is not known for being a boxer for a reason.
Uh, this is the guy who fights evenly with Batman regularly. If anything, Spy's the one out of his league
Also, shooting Joker from a distance is just gonna give away his position and isn't very in character anyways.
Seriously, Joker is not known for being a boxer for a reason.
Uh, this is the guy who fights evenly with Batman regularly. If anything, Spy's the one out of his league
Also, shooting Joker from a distance is just gonna give away his position and isn't very in character anyways.
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Sense when? He always gets in close during his Meet The video.
The episode Mad Love and Return of The Joker say otherwise, as both times Joker made him bleed and the second time flat out beat him.
The episode Mad Love and Return of The Joker say otherwise, as both times Joker made him bleed and the second time flat out beat him.
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I'd have to rewatch the series, as his losses are far, far more than he wins.The Wright Way said:
Meet the Video isn't the only canon for Spy- though I can't read over the comments at the moment, I'll partially concede that both are likely. Though, I think he's more likely to fire from mid-ish range; far away that it's hard to hear him uncloak, but not like, sniper range.
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When he killed Engineer in that exact same video.The Wright Way said:
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He shot him point blank.
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He was running right towards him and was barely even two feet away. That's not snipping.
You're not Superman.
You're not Superman.
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If we're talking about the animated show-which is the version we're using-h's actually equal to Batman.
If you refer to the comics, Joker has OVERPOWERED him before. In Batman: Endgame, he ******* killed him in a fistfight.
1. This is DCAU Joker.
2. Joker had a Lazarus pit backing him in Endgame.
If you refer to the comics, Joker has OVERPOWERED him before. In Batman: Endgame, he ******* killed him in a fistfight.
1. This is DCAU Joker.
2. Joker had a Lazarus pit backing him in Endgame.
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Yea, obviously. Comics Batman is ******* absurd.
The thing is, animated shows usually have... less impressive Batfeats. Not to say he's not skilled, but he's a far cry off of Mr. "I Found This Cult Multiple Times After They Mindwiped Me To Make Me Go Away" Batman.
The thing is, animated shows usually have... less impressive Batfeats. Not to say he's not skilled, but he's a far cry off of Mr. "I Found This Cult Multiple Times After They Mindwiped Me To Make Me Go Away" Batman.
