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The Father of Chakra Vs The Father of the Quincy REMATCH

I read a few comments about this match, but I don't remember much (Take it with a gain of salt) Wasn't the main thing that Hagoromo couldn't deal with Yhwach's TK or something?
 
I read a few comments about this match, but I don't remember much (Take it with a gain of salt) Wasn't the main thing that Hagoromo couldn't deal with Yhwach's TK or something?
That and Yhwach can summon all the ritters at his side with their broken ass shrifts.
 
That's it ?

Ritters can counter that before ,while or after it happen.

Like Nianzol, Jugram or Uryu.

So Yhwach still have awnsers to hags wincons, we know that against strong opponents he summmon his allies pretty quickly and Nianzol's ability is always on hidden safely in the shadows so even if hags act first, his stuff still won't land.

Do Hags can now counter the ritters hax, macroquantum soul decon , Sankt Altar ,Yama's bankai etc ? If not, it end like before.
 
Reiatsu based ,maybe.

But reishi based, like quincy attacks , is most likely a no; given that it is closer to nature energy.
 
Reiatsu based ,maybe.

But reishi based, like quincy attacks , is most likely a no; given that it is closer to nature energy.
The Rinnegan can still absorb Senjutsu chakra, Pain did it, it's just that someone who hasn't mastered Senjutsu would be turned to stone or a frog or something. Hagoromo is a Sage.
 
So he can absorb quincy arrows and elemental attacks from schrifts but that really isn't what is threatening to him in this battle.
 
No he can't, because Nianzol is there, hidden in the shadow, with Wind wich would protect everyone on the field from hags attacks. Jugram is also there with Balance to make sure anything bad happening to the ritters or himself is redirected at Hags, and Uryu is there to do pretty much the same but in a different way with Anti-Thesis.

And each ritter and Yhwach can deconstruct Hags on a macroquantum level ,on top of their own personal hax, wich quite a few can also end hag on their own.

Basically, the second Yhwach pull out the ritters, Hags is done ,especially with speed equal. And given we barely know how Hags fight in characther and his quite huge arsenal, we can't argue he will pull the instant TK one shot trigger more times than not.
But we do know the strongest version of Base Yhwach pull out the ritter quite quickly when facing a strong opponent and have at least Nianzol using Wind to protect him even if he isn't on the field.
 
No he can't, because Nianzol is there, hidden in the shadow, with Wind wich would protect everyone on the field from hags attacks. Jugram is also there with Balance to make sure anything bad happening to the ritters or himself is redirected at Hags, and Uryu is there to do pretty much the same but in a different way with Anti-Thesis.
Can those two really protect others with their Schrifts?
Basically, the second Yhwach pull out the ritters, Hags is done, especially with speed equal.
Speed equal doesn't apply to summons iirc, their difference would be the same as that between them and Yhwach.
 
Can those two really protect others with their Schrifts?

Speed equal doesn't apply to summons iirc, their difference would be the same as that between them and Yhwach.
Yeah ? Balance have an area of influence in wich all fortunate events to the opponent will bring the opponents misfortune or fortune to him and allies and any misfortune caused to Jugram or his allies will bring misfortune to the opponent and fortune to him and allies. That include wounds.

And Uryu can straight up switch any events between targets (location, status, wounds etc). So if Hags kill an ally, Uryu can one shot hags by switching the events.

Speed equal doesn't matter much , it's the numbers , hax and having to fight Yhwach on top still. Hags will have his hands full only dealing with Yhwach alone given his own strengh and haxes, the ritters in the side lines will seal the deal with their own haxes and distractions.
 
Hagoromo can also summon souls from the afterlife, but idk if there were any relevant ones at this point.
 
That won't help much i think. Bloodlusting only make you not fear injuries and go for the kill immediatly.

But the thing is that Hags have a HUGE moveset but only a few moves that actually make him win. And the odds of choosing the right move to kill Yhwach before he summons the ritters is low with such a massive ammount of options.

Giving hags prior knowledge would be more usefull for him imo, it would at least allow him to thin out his potential options , making more likely to chose the first moves that grant him a decisive victory.
 
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