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Yhwach vs Ichibei, Ichibei stripped Yhwach of half his power in his body and arm. Yhwach restored it.MostPowerfull said:
Ichibei then stripped Yhwach of every power, Yhwach restored it.
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The Fate of The Dark One: Yhwach vs Rumplestiltskin (8-0-4) --- Yhwach Wins
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Ichibei then stripped Yhwach of every power, Yhwach restored it.
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This is not resistance to Conceptual Manip, since Yhwach was able to restore his name? And if I remember well, Yhwach restored him with the almighty moments after he came back to himself, changing the future. So he still had power If so, this is useless.
Rumple would still leave him without any kind of powers, destroyed by Plot Manip (or something like this) of Rumple with the powers of the Author.
Rumple would still leave him without any kind of powers, destroyed by Plot Manip (or something like this) of Rumple with the powers of the Author.
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@Ghuttsu
This is not Conceptual Manip.
This is not Conceptual Manip.
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Yhwach is acasual plot manipulation is useless afaik. And Ichibei can null on a conceptual level. If you disagree make a CRT since its literally on his profile. Hows it useless? Yhwach was able to restore his power being nulled on q conceptual level.
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MostPowerfull said:
Profile begs to differ and its accepted as such. If you think otherwise make a crt.
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Acausality does not make resistant from the powers of Plot Manip, and yes about Fate Manipulation.
Because this is not conceptual manipulation, so your stamina does not apply here.
Because this is not conceptual manipulation, so your stamina does not apply here.
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Being an acausal doesnt grant you resistance to Plothax
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... again I dont mean to be rude but what the **** is this supposed to mean?
Because this is not conceptual manipulation, so your stamina does not apply here
Explain this. Again its accepted and on the profile, so yes it is conceptual manipulation.
Because this is not conceptual manipulation, so your stamina does not apply here
Explain this. Again its accepted and on the profile, so yes it is conceptual manipulation.
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Yhwach has to touch rumple with one finger, and he'll gain all of his abilities, memories, knowledge, or he could just use the yourself. anything that rumple throws at him gets reflected by the balance, if he gets close to yhwach his passive spatial manip will rip him apart, intangibility, he can lower pretty much all of his resistances with the deathdealing, and make his own magic lethal to himself, etc tec
what's rumple going to do against some examples that i've mentioned above.
Yhwach has to touch rumple with one finger, and he'll gain all of his abilities, memories, knowledge, or he could just use the yourself. anything that rumple throws at him gets reflected by the balance, if he gets close to yhwach his passive spatial manip will rip him apart, intangibility, he can lower pretty much all of his resistances with the deathdealing, and make his own magic lethal to himself, etc tec
what's rumple going to do against some examples that i've mentioned above.
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If you don't think it's conceptual manipulation then please make a CRT to change the definition of Conceptual Manipulation Type 3.
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@Ghuttsu
He had already received the technique, when the Almighty came back to him and so, the Almighty was not affected by Ichibe. At least that's what I remember.
@MachTwo
It is more for a manipulation of reality.
He had already received the technique, when the Almighty came back to him and so, the Almighty was not affected by Ichibe. At least that's what I remember.
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It is more for a manipulation of reality.
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Ichibe does have conceptual manipulation - his power is to determine and rewrite the name, the very essence of anything and everything.
That's conceptual manipulation - and with it he erased Yhwach's strength and power - and the Almighty negated that.
Saying this didn't happen is disingenuous.
That's conceptual manipulation - and with it he erased Yhwach's strength and power - and the Almighty negated that.
Saying this didn't happen is disingenuous.
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When I said I do not agree with Yhwach having conceptual manipulation? I said that Rumple's ability is not conceptual manipulation, so his resistance does not apply here. I'm referring to Rumple's ability, I do not give the least to Ichibe.
Read with your eyes and stop inventing things with your minds.
Read with your eyes and stop inventing things with your minds.
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Yhwach doesn't have conceptual manipulation - Ichibe does, and Yhwach resists Ichibe's conceptual power null.MostPowerfull said:
That's what is being said here.
If you believe that Rumple wins here, then explain why, because the reasonings you have now aren't sufficient enough.
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Yhwach is still inside the plot, and having applications is not exactly the same.
Yhwach is not resistant to Plot Manip.
Yhwach is not resistant to Plot Manip.
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You would need Acausality type 5 to likely counter plothaxMachTwo said:
Yhwach is type 2
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Fate manip definitely cant counter Plot manip, lolMachTwo said:
Plothax is greatly superior
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Plot Manip is a powerful variant of Reality Manipulation.
Yhwach is not resistant to this.
Yhwach is not resistant to this.
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Being a reality warper=/= having resistance to reality warpingGhuttsu said:
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Changing speech bubbles are part of Plot Manipulation, so Ichibei has Plot Manipulation, and Yhwach negated it.
Yhwach > Plot Manipulation (that's why an arrow made from his own powers was the only thing that could took him down, and he ain't even dead, just sealed with a hundred seals)
Yhwach > Plot Manipulation (that's why an arrow made from his own powers was the only thing that could took him down, and he ain't even dead, just sealed with a hundred seals)
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Not on his profile, try againAppleLord said:
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He changed the story and erased all the powers of the Guardians of every world.
He created hundreds of worlds, each with a horrible plot within him.
He was able to change the plot of all heroes, making heroes become villains and vice versa.
I think these are the best deeds of Plot Manip. Bring them here? Impossible. YT simply removes them by copyright and did not find them elsewhere.
He created hundreds of worlds, each with a horrible plot within him.
He was able to change the plot of all heroes, making heroes become villains and vice versa.
I think these are the best deeds of Plot Manip. Bring them here? Impossible. YT simply removes them by copyright and did not find them elsewhere.
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