The Dovahkiin vs Ainz Ooal Gown

[Black_Hoopa]

The Dovahkii (Low 7-B): 0

Ainz Ooal Gow (7-B): 0

Round 1:

-Ainz has all his items including world items

-Dova without objects

-Speed equalized

-Both with their personalities

Round 2:

-The same but both with preparation

-FIGHT!!

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

-Dovahkiin has items that do not have an effect or resistance higher than Low 7-B. Bone cannot use objects with Low 2-C effects or higher.

You know that the daedric artifacts are not restricted by tier right? so saying "nothing above 7B" does not really work not to mention the items that the dova can create are not restricted by tier either

 

[Black_Hoopa]

You know that the daedric artifacts are not restricted by tier right? so saying "nothing above 7B" does not really work not to mention the items that the dova can create are not restricted by tier either

Edited.

 

[Faruel1998]

his standard equipment still have daedric artifacts

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Well lets see for the dova

Speed he is slower in travel speed but in combat and reaction speed he is above ainz being at Massively Hypersonic+ (dont know speed = covers only movement or also reaction and combat that is why i mention the speed)

Dova has both holy and fire attacks transmutation and he has enchanted gear for magic and physical attacks he can also boost himself or use shouts


Dova is also inmune to time manipulation (not just because of the shout but also because he exist outside of time) also resistance to fate hax by being type 4 acasual, Empathic Manipulation, Illusion Creation, Soul Manipulation, Mind Manipulation, Power Nullification, Fire Manipulation, Biological Manipulation, Air Manipulation, Ice Manipulation, Electricity Manipulation, Disease Manipulation, Poison Manipulation, Transmutation, Statistics Reduction, Paralysis Inducement, Status Effect Inducement, Madness Manipulation, Void Manipulation ( this void manipulation that is from alduin in other words EE that also erases you from past, present and future) , Reality Warping, Matter Manipulation, Information Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation and Curse Manipulation also by Possibly being a Shezarrine he could have resistance to death hax

Also seems that ainz not resist deconstruction

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

I mean if not for type 7 and his deadric artifacts letting him resist all ainz magic Id argue ainz first move (Thinking death/throwing out 7b spells) Would give him good odds of victory but it's still a stomp due to dovah having all his equipment and using it all at once.

 

[Apeironaxim]

sorry man, but Dovah's "I do everything at once" makes this a stomp no matter what

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

You could try this with the Ashen One from Dark Souls, but it's probably the same result.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

gonna post some of the artifacts


The Ring of Namira while the ring is being worn, any damage the bearer takes is suffered by the attacker as well.

Spell breaker cancels any magical attack even before the caster has a chance to use it

Staff of Magnus Low 1C power null and absorbsion

The mace of bal drains its victims of magicka and gives it to the bearer. It also has the ability to transfer an enemy's strength to its wielder ( a favorite for vanquishing wizards)

The mask of vile basically makes everyone fawn over you even if your personality and appearance was shit people would give the world to the one that wears the mask

The razor besides being able to kill any creature instantly it can aslo change reality by "cutting' the cababilities of it are so strong that someone used it to become a dragonborn againts the will of Akatosh a high 1B god (Death hax, conceptual, information etc.)

Saviors Hide The one that wore it before could tank hits from Mehrunes Dago

The ebony blade Every time the Ebony Blade strikes an opponent, part of the damage inflicted flows into the wielder as raw power basically every time you hit you become more strong

And then you have the dova that can enchant his stuff to buff or decrease damage he takes or gives be it physical or magical

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Oh forgot to mention that by being a breton he already has natural resistance to magic

 

[Keeweed]

The staff of Magnus is in the Dovahkiin's high 6-A key and Spell Breaker has garbage range, but the rest of the list looks fine from a glance.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

so yea a stomp but i would give both rounds to the dova

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

The staff of Magnus is in the Dovahkiin's high 6-A key and Spell Breaker has garbage range, but the rest of the list looks fine from a glance.

For what i remember the range limit was from gameplay mechanics and the High 6A key is for when the dova fought alduing at the mountain the staff of magnus can be achived before that the keys are just for moments in the main quest line

 

[Keeweed]

The Dragon Priest that owns the staff had a profile last I checked and they were high 6-A.

A lot of the Eternal Champions' matches would be affected if it had any decent range.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

The Dragon Priest that owns the staff had a profile last I checked and they were high 6-A.

His High 6A rating is via the staff not because of his own

 

[Keeweed]

His durability is high 6-A scaling from the Dovahkiin.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Even if it was from the staff shouldn't the dovah have insta died from it if he fought it before he was 6a?

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

His durability is high 6-A scaling from the Dovahkiin.

and i quote: "Thanks to the Staff of Magnus"

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

But he doesn't tank his own staff, he tanks hits from the dovah...

 

[Keeweed]

Yes but he had the staff during the fight, and he scales to the high 6-A Dovahkiin meaning the high 6-A Dovahkiin is the one that fought them.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

oh shit i forgot the squeleton key, Skull of corruption and The rueful axe

 

[Black_Hoopa]

I want an even versus so it will be without objects for Dova

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

I want an even versus so it will be without objects for Dova

Thats the same as saying "well ainz but he does not have xyz spells"

besides it not gonna be even

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Tbf this would be a fair fight if we treated dovah as a single incarnation instead of this bizzare metaphysics being but we don't so stomp.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Tbf this would be a fair fight if we treated dovah as a single incarnation instead of this bizzare metaphysics being but we don't so stomp.

We cant because that is the character it would be the same as saying treat ainz as a human yet he is undead

 

[Keeweed]

To be fair in one of the stories the Morrowind main character was stated to be "shifting" so much that they became unrecognizable so the Elder Scrolls prisoners being metaphysic isn't coming from thin air. It's just really stupid in the context of a versus fight.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Not really their are hundreds of different versions of the dovah technically, literally take him at his strongest with his best gear without him being able to somehow wear all his armor simultanously. Heck we used to treat him that way before this metaphysics stuff. In the end though IM not going to argue this, its a stomp due to metaphysics.

 

[Black_Hoopa]

Ok, so Dova can not use objects that give resistance to things above tier 7 or good that does not use those objects that give 100% victory in this confrontation to be stomp

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Well we treated it diferent before because we were not that deep in the lore tho it is confusing like Vivec being born human then becoming a god but he was also always born as a god

 

[Faruel1998]

Dovahkiin as a prisoner and I quote Matt:

"Everyone here talking about first moves are blissfully unaware of how TES Metaphysics work

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...hy#The_Prisoner:_The_Hero_Who_Frees_The_World

The Prisoner is free from the chains of causality and determinism that bind the Dream of the Godhead, and thus have true free will to be as they are, walk any path they choose and do as they will.

They can be of any race, any gender, and do anything, and it will be all simultaneously and equally true regardless of contradictions, as the Prisoner is an entity that exists outside all possibility-points (Possible future branching paths).

So the Dovahkiin will have every item they can use, every spell they can use, and will be able to act with maximum efficiency and use the best spells, shouts, techniques and attacks for the situation at hand."

This means that he may have embarked on the quest of the College of Winterhold long before he faced Alduin or even the first dragon Milmurnir and took the Staff of Magnus, because honestly that and the main quest (apart from a conjunction) are not minimally related.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Not arguing its a stomp I just find the metaphysical stuff nonsensical.

 

[Keeweed]

Honestly I should downgrade that dragon priest (the Staff of Magnus one), I don't see any reason it had to be the high 6-A Dovahkiin that fought him.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Ok, so Dova can not use objects that give resistance to things above tier 7 or good that does not use those objects that give 100% victory in this confrontation to be stomp

Enchanted gear and stuff like that are not limited by tier so saying "no resistance above tier 7" does not work is like saying that someone has resistance on 4D but to make it fair it should be 3D, it does not really work like that

 

[Faruel1998]

Yes, just for a few exceptions, the dragon priests were not nearly as strong as their masters

 

[Keeweed]

By the way the Dovahkiin naturally has a resistance that is above 4D (I believe his acausality and time manipulation resistance scales above 4D while he a has a few misc resistances that are 4D from scaling to Alduin) so resisting resistances above low 7-B isn't even possible because a lot of them don't come from items.

 

[Apeironaxim]

seriously, this can't work, it's a stomp, it will continue to be a stomp and nothing will change that

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Yes, just for a few exceptions, the dragon priests were not nearly as strong as their masters

I mean in their prime they were crazy i would even dare to say above High 6A with magic from the meredic era etc.

 

[Faruel1998]

@Black Hoopa

For as Kweed said.

Regardless of how you set up the fight, sometimes there are characters who are simply too strong to be beaten in a given fight.

 

[Black_Hoopa]

Enchanted gear and stuff like that are not limited by tier so saying "no resistance above tier 7" does not work is like saying that someone has resistance on 4D but to make it fair it should be 3D, it does not really work like that

So Dova from tier 7 already can with hax´s of types of tier 1 and 2? if so then close this

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Enchanted gear and stuff like that are not limited by tier so saying "no resistance above tier 7" does not work is like saying that someone has resistance on 4D but to make it fair it should be 3D, it does not really work like that

So Dova from tier 7 already can with hax´s of types of tier 1 and 2? if so then close this

Basically as the othes have said the dova is very stompy so is hard to find a good match for him