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IDK, the house of ideas has big anti-feats.Thus is still below the White Hot Room, House of Ideas, the Land, and Dominions.
What I am skeptical of is the true spirit's relationship with the world (it all exists in his mind/heart). All the information comes from a single dialogue instance of a random unamed npc (a dialogue that is very confusing vague ex. the bit about pokemon marrying humans). We don't see such relationship mentioned anywhere else in the franchise.There is no room for scepticism here. It's straight from the horse's mouth, there is an avatar and a true form. Even included the Japanese so there is no argument over what it means by part, it means an avatar/alter ego and is a word that is usually used in reference to a god's ability to create avatars. Of particular note, it is used to refer to the Buddha's ability to appear in multiple forms to save people.
There’s also heaps of evidence that support R>F in SMT but In the P5, this world also includes mementos, which represents a shared mental realm shaped by society's distortions. Within this realm are countless archetypes, fundamental symbols that exist beyond time and space. It's something like entering a dimensionless space where these archetypes, similar to Plato's ideas, transcend usual understanding of reality.And as you said there’s also the fact that the great reason purposely granted humanity gods slayers/messiahs
In both SMT 5 and Persona 5, they speak on ideas of human world's perception shaping demons and the demon world/metaverse. To me, this always strike against the demons being platonic concepts, because if they are shaped by human perception then they aren't really independent. Not to mention in SMT 5, you can destroy the throne and demon world, and the human world will remain.