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nasuverse is like 1 to 1 Tier 0Why are you assuming The Root is 0 ? I mean I understand the logic behind it but I don't think anything he said in the thread changes anything.
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nasuverse is like 1 to 1 Tier 0Why are you assuming The Root is 0 ? I mean I understand the logic behind it but I don't think anything he said in the thread changes anything.
So does the monad have a say in which possibility is allowed to be possible?"Free Will" as a concept is, to us, basically something that boils down to the ability to pick and choose between possibilities. A Tier 0 is the creator of all possibilities whatsoever, and isn't expressed in any of them (It's purely actual, and in no way possible), so the concept itself doesn't make much sense when applied to them.
That said, they're "free" in the sense that the effects of their singular eternal act don't really add anything whatsoever to their essence. So, pretty much in the sense of "Neither of these effects are incompatible with their nature."
There is a general thread I made for staff threads. But I don't see the harm in continuing the discussion here, its all connected.Will a NEW THREAD be opened for commoners? Discussing:
Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0
or will comments continue to be posted here? (Asking before this thread gets even more lengthy to follow)
This reminded of a previous question I had…So is this Tier 0?
The above Marvel scan uses Cantor's theory of transinfinite numbers (even mentioning how it starts with "aleph") to state the number of dimensions in the Marvel Universe (aka Universal Eternity).
What tier would the above be?
Currently yesCan a 3D being have high outer AP?
TOAA while being the apex of Marvel Omniverse sits only at the Keter of Assiah in the greater Kabbalistic Four Worlds cosmology, rather than being the Ein Sof itself.what did ultima mean by this ?
"which has The One Above All being described as a "pure unity" and yet being the top of a hierarchy that is also the bottom of yet another hierarchy"
is there someone above TOAA in marvel? I didn't understand this
Am I the only one who realizes that this comment by Ant is a joke?Yes, and our current system essentially encourages a form of Suggs-style social Darwinian divisive psychopathically power-mad frenetic competition to constantly gain greater levels of comparative supremacy in order to grind everybody else under a single bootheel, rather than encouraging a perspective of true oneness (and therefore equality) for everybody at the end, so I technically find what we are currently doing highly immoral as well, and would greatly appreciate if Ultima incorporates this concern into his new system, as I mentioned in private earlier.
You answered as if it won’t be possible anymore (but if that’s not the case, apologies in advance).Currently yes
The above Marvel scan uses Cantor's theory of transinfinite numbers (even mentioning how it starts with "aleph") to state the number of dimensions in the Marvel Universe (aka Universal Eternity).
What tier would the above be?
Though I agree that Marvel isn't math-savvy. I swear Ultima used these scans during his proposal for upgrading the Marvel Cosmology.This scan blatantly misinterprets how these concepts work and is thus unusable - a "math" outlier, if you will.
No, he brought them up solely to say that he wouldn't use them.Though I agree that Marvel isn't math-savvy. I swear Ultima used these scans during his proposal for upgrading the Marvel Cosmology.
Really? Huh, don't remember that.No, he brought them up solely to say that he wouldn't use them.
I just want to see where Enigma would scale after we saw the events where we saw the face of Godhead.Really? Huh, don't remember that.
Now that Ultima's decided not to make Marvel Comics Low 1-A become 1-A, despite Universal Eternity viewing a High 1-B realm as nothing more than a dream and all the High 1-B stuff as a figment of his imagination, the invalidity of the above scan kills the idea of 1-A Universal abstracts in Marvel Comics.
Dam really? What happened? Was there a violation of the new requirements or somethin?Now that Ultima's decided not to make Marvel Comics Low 1-A become 1-A
Probably just High 1-A. Multiple layers into High 1-A, probably, but that's it.I just want to see where Enigma would scale after we saw the events where we saw the face of Godhead.
Well, he says he's considering not doing it, my bad. Nothing for certain yet.Dam really? What happened? Was there a violation of the new requirements or somethin?
I do believe Marvel gets 0 through the Divine Creator.Probably just High 1-A. Multiple layers into High 1-A, probably, but that's it.
Follow up of this question: Say Character B had an unreal version/form of the energy instead. Would absorption, then, be allowed?Just in case I need to clarify a bit more, the Real Being (A) is made out of that same Real Energy and they give it to the Fictional Being (B), allowing for interaction with other Real Beings. Then that energy gets absorbed by another Fictional Being (C) from Character B, allowing for the same interaction capabilities.
I agree. The rule of cool is all that matters. The staff should consider that name over the other names.In regards to the discussion about whether to use "Irrelevant", "Inapplicable", or "Unbound" for tier 0 statistics, I'd prefer if Unbound was used. Because it sounds Cooler, and this is objectively the only factor that matters.
Meanwhile "You Can Forget the Words":I love how Ultima's revision would make all those verses made solely for powerscaling and for being strong obsolete.
Y'all know about those verses that always try to be as strong as possible? The ones made by powerscalers? Even if they weren't OCs or were relevant enough to be in this wiki, they would still not be Tier 0.
I am talking about stuff like Auren the absolute and his verse, Celestial child and his verse, Suggsverse, Alphatale, that Tier 0 Saitama fan comic, etc
Kinda funny that all their efforts were for naught.
To be fair, it isn't because after the change, those "fan" will move from using math shit to using philosophy shitI love how Ultima's revision would make all those verses made solely for powerscaling and for being strong obsolete.
Y'all know about those verses that always try to be as strong as possible? The ones made by powerscalers? Even if they weren't OCs or were relevant enough to be in this wiki, they would still not be Tier 0.
I am talking about stuff like Auren the absolute and his verse, Celestial child and his verse, Suggsverse, Alphatale, that Tier 0 Saitama fan comic, etc
Kinda funny that all their efforts were for naught.
What does any of this mean???? I don't get it, it is all confusing babble. Am I stupid? What little I could understand is that the schizo author said that his OC can affect real life, which is always an indication of powerscaling infection.Meanwhile "You Can Forget the Words":
Aye you're right.To be fair, it isn't because after the change, those "fan" will move from using math shit to using philosophy shit
LMAOOOOO, NGL, I kinda want to see a site seriously powerscale his crap.Suggverse on the other hand, is, well, kinda funny that he just copied all the tier 0 description from other verses, paste into his verse and make his character beyond those "description". I remember these are The Elder Scrolls' ANU tier 0 description somewhere in his story and following after is his character stand beyond those thing
2-A+what tier would the goddess of manifold and downstreamers be with the new system? shts kinda weird
high 1-A+ for GOM?
God or the One being the most true, real, basic, and fundamental "I AM" essentially makes it tier 0 and God being beyond any attempts to capture it with words which is what being beyond [interpretation] basically is.What does any of this mean???? I don't get it, it is all confusing babble. Am I stupid? What little I could understand is that the schizo author said that his OC can affect real life, which is always an indication of powerscaling infection.
It appears to have just demonstrated a "tier 0 character" zapping some tier-whatever OC back to their plane of existenceWhat does any of this mean???? I don't get it, it is all confusing babble. Am I stupid? What little I could understand is that the schizo author said that his OC can affect real life, which is always an indication of powerscaling infection.
Suggsverse was explicitly banned from having profiles on the wiki a long time ago. It might be interesting to discuss what the verse would look like if it hypothetically existed on the wiki, but we are quite certain it never will.I saw a few attempts at tiering Suggsverse. Xeranthemum and few others, to be specific. Doesn’t seem too hard, just nobody is bothered enough.
It can always work in a sandbox just for fun.Suggsverse was explicitly banned from having profiles on the wiki a long time ago. It might be interesting to discuss what the verse would look like if it hypothetically existed on the wiki, but we are quite certain it never will.