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The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

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although it may seem like it I wasn't saying it for him lol, actually I was referring to the typical bad manwhas that the characters become so powerful that they break the entire system, the rules, trascend all the gods and blah blah blah
If only humans were to be as strong as these manhwa characters... I want me some supernova explosion created by my own hands...
 
Sadly.
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"Beings that are boundlessly above absolutely everything"💀
It was a time of ignorance and bliss. It was gorgeous while it lasted.
 
Let's be honest, CSAP is practically guys copying our entire tiering system then bragging about not updating it from 2018.
Not much to brag about, but it's ironic that you bring about the lack of change like it's a bad thing when VSB is literally in the process of reverting back closer to what it was in 2018.
Well I dont take them seriously too but this new tiering isnt something I can agree easily. Now we will see many irrevelant characters getting upgraded 1A. I mean we want to be strict system right?
What do you even mean by irrelevant here? More or less 1-As doesn't matter. If there are 12 characters that meet the criteria for 1-A that's because they're 1-A, not because 1-A isn't strict enough.

After reading revision again I've realised that CSAP was always right about saying dimensional tiering is useless. But still I have sense that someone will come up and eventually refute this thing...
That has never been CSAP's stance. If you'd actually read the tiering system you would probably know that. Defining 1-A as transcending dimensionality doesn't mean dimensional tiering is not usable, it means that there are some characters that are powerful enough that dimensionality doesn't affect them.
Well r>f trancendense is easier than describing some alephs and hierarchy shenanigans. But if wiki makes r>f transcende harder then why not ? I just want people stop abusing wiki for their satisfaction.
Not really, name-dropping alephs and inaccessible cardinals isn't exactly difficult, it's just rare.
Exactly. I spend damn 6 months to understand what is cardinal number.
What. Cardinals are not that difficult. 1 is literally a cardinal number.
 
I hope I'm wrong, I hope this revision will be beneficial for us. I mean majority of powerscaling community doesnt take VSBW serious anymore. And it makes me question existence of this wiki at this point.
Speaking from personal experience over how I came to VSBW, this sentiment is not healthy for your better judgement. I implore you to never let the rants about our community grind you down.
 
DC Comics being at 1-A makes sense to me. They should least be up there with Marvel.
For the Vertigo and Matteis cosmologies, there are definitely characters that will be 1-A, High 1-A and 0. But for the Crisis cosmology, where main continuity is essential, 1-A is not yet clear. But I find 1-A suitable for a few characters.
 
Like anyone on this Wiki will ever allow for the re-appearance of the Creator back lol. That's whatI meant, not the tiering of the Creator
Never know, the fans might think it qualifiesfor tier 0 and try to bring it back. The creator isn't even a character right?
 
The Creator gets directly namedropped in the last Umineko entry (Last Note), and alluded to in one of Higu Mei stories, so it being and actual entity is a pretty sure thing.

It's tiering is a completely different matter tho.
Let's just hope that one day the Creator will finally come back to this Wiki as a character page. Speaking of, do you work on 07th here?
 
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Me already planning to make tier 0 root once this crt passes

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It's inevitable this time around. Lowkey Root has like top 3 most undeniable monad characteristics
I don’t think any of what has been mentioned by Ultima has been undeniably. A part from God from Seekers, God from Dante’s Divine Comedy, and Essentially Divinity.
 
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