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The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

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So set theory is has gone that far from their throne?

The whole point of the set of all sets is that technically it is the biggest number.
Are we trying to trade math the bedrock for every other part of the tiering system for philosophy at the very end?
I assume you mean class of all sets because nobody likes Russel's Paradox.
The class of all sets is not "the biggest number". It's not a number at all... and there is no such thing as a "biggest number" in Set Theory.
 
I assume you mean class of all sets because nobody likes Russel's Paradox.
The class of all sets is not "the biggest number". It's not a number at all... and there is no such thing as a "biggest number" in Set Theory.
Not well-founded set theory and yeah my bad
 
So set theory is has gone that far from their throne?
Yes.
The whole point of the set of all sets is that technically it is the biggest number.
No it isn't. The point of it is to highlight a paradox. And in finding a way to avoid that paradox (defining classes; something which can hold sets but aren't sets), we can find an endless series of yet larger constructs. After the class of all sets, we can have the conglomerate of all classes, the collection of all conglomerates, and so on ad infinitum.
Are we trying to trade math the bedrock for every other part of the tiering system for philosophy at the very end?
Yes, that is explicitly the goal of the people leading the revision.
We stop waffling.
 
what do we do for characters that are unbound by any hierarchy whatsoever, all-encompassing, cannot be reduced or fractured, formless in nature and beyond human comprehension, preceding and exceeding all dualities and polarities, all of them equal in power being absolute in the most literal sense, as there is nothing to limit, restrict, restrain, confine, disturb or condition them, are subject to no other power, for there is no other power, and all stem from the unique primordial sea of conceptual essence, the origin of all things
but this kinda doesnt qualify for tier 0 due to a few things
unknown tier since said character is featless
 
where would transcending the dual conceptual platonic concept of the supreme monadic ultimate god scale
They don't even fit on the tiering system. They are so weak that we'd need a tier thats bigger than infinity. They get no concept of diffed by a tier 11-C character. They would be banned from the wiki because they are so weak they are nowhere close to being worth making a profile out of. They are the weakest character in all of fiction PERIOD. Even anya solos
 
They don't even fit on the tiering system. They are so weak that we'd need a tier thats bigger than infinity. They get no concept of diffed by a tier 11-C character. They would be banned from the wiki because they are so weak they are nowhere close to being worth making a profile out of. They are the weakest character in all of fiction PERIOD. Even anya solos
fax fax no cap
 
Ok fine

I haven't read the thing so idk, Somewhere in tier 1 tho
they already transcend a High 1-A verse and unbound by any hierarchy my problem is that they wouldnt qualify for tier 0 because of a few things, so all that stays is High 1-A+ and that seems like a weird ass tier to give them
 
they already transcend a High 1-A verse and unbound by any hierarchy my problem is that they wouldnt qualify for tier 0 because of a few things, so all that stays is High 1-A+ and that seems like a weird ass tier to give them
Oh, if they are High 1-A but arent 0 according to you then they'd just stay at High 1-A. High 1-A+ sounds a lil goofy, but that's true for most tiers. If the mods let you then that'd be fine, but i don't know if +'s can be used on tier 1's tho
 
tier 0 is fodder to Gokuversal tier
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