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The characters scaled from Spider-Man need to have their statistics revised
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Morlun nuke feats still exists and base spiderman shouldn't be too far behind inconsistencies aside.
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When was it created?
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Where are you going with this?
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Ah.
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The Tsar Bomba was actually tested in 1961; implying it would be that. And that seems it bit too high for Luke Cage as that's City level+. And the fact that he was completely hospitalized implies he wouldn't be able to scale from that normally.
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I don't think I have anything else to add to be honest. Ant's already summed up all the arguments against 8-A tiering, and I frankly see no reason to keep any character underneath Cage at Low-7-C, and should only be 8-A at most. I'll make a quick summation anyway:
Deadpool: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Matthew_Schroeder/Deadpool:_Merc_with_the_Durability First one seems legit enough, second two are pretty good but don't appear to be that exceptionally high, and the last two are very questionable, especially the one involving the T-Rex. Overall tho, regardless of the feats legitimacy, Deadpool is too cartoony and inconsistant of a character to reliably scale from, much like DC's own Lobo. At most he could be given a variable tiering, at least just for his durability.
Wolverine: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...eder/Marvel_Comics:_Wolverine_Getting_Punched The feats are fine by themselves, the issue is that it seems Logan's adamantium skeleton is the only reason he isn't immediatly reduced to mince meat, and has allowed him to withstand far more powerful attacks than the ones listed above, with his skin inconspicuously remaining intact alongside it https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11123/111239958/4756659-wwh vs wolverine.jpg
Captain America: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Darkanine/Marvel:_Captain_America_Tanks_Something This is perhaps the most contentious of all the above mentioned feats, given that almost all of it can be attributed to his shield, with Cap only taking a tiny amount of heat, hence his scattered up clothes. You can literally see a massive rock standing directly behind Cap after the explosion happened, suggesting the vast majority of the blast ricocheted off Caps sheild enough to protect that rock and therefore most of his body, as he states so himself: "You're a Fool, Superia! The force of your blast ricocheted off my shield and struck your precious Invisible Barrier!"
Everything taken into account, I can only see Marvel's "peak level humans" being left at 9-A, above peak level humans as only being 8-C at most, and Spiderman level characters placed at High 8-C to Possibly 8-B and 8-A.
Deadpool: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Matthew_Schroeder/Deadpool:_Merc_with_the_Durability First one seems legit enough, second two are pretty good but don't appear to be that exceptionally high, and the last two are very questionable, especially the one involving the T-Rex. Overall tho, regardless of the feats legitimacy, Deadpool is too cartoony and inconsistant of a character to reliably scale from, much like DC's own Lobo. At most he could be given a variable tiering, at least just for his durability.
Wolverine: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...eder/Marvel_Comics:_Wolverine_Getting_Punched The feats are fine by themselves, the issue is that it seems Logan's adamantium skeleton is the only reason he isn't immediatly reduced to mince meat, and has allowed him to withstand far more powerful attacks than the ones listed above, with his skin inconspicuously remaining intact alongside it https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11123/111239958/4756659-wwh vs wolverine.jpg
Captain America: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Darkanine/Marvel:_Captain_America_Tanks_Something This is perhaps the most contentious of all the above mentioned feats, given that almost all of it can be attributed to his shield, with Cap only taking a tiny amount of heat, hence his scattered up clothes. You can literally see a massive rock standing directly behind Cap after the explosion happened, suggesting the vast majority of the blast ricocheted off Caps sheild enough to protect that rock and therefore most of his body, as he states so himself: "You're a Fool, Superia! The force of your blast ricocheted off my shield and struck your precious Invisible Barrier!"
Everything taken into account, I can only see Marvel's "peak level humans" being left at 9-A, above peak level humans as only being 8-C at most, and Spiderman level characters placed at High 8-C to Possibly 8-B and 8-A.
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If you want to scale from his "biggest web shield ever" to people who have ripped through much smaller amounts of the webbing, it is not consistently displayed at the same durability level, so it would end up similar to calc-stacking.
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Spiderman said it may not be enough meaning he wasn't sure
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:1E84BEE9-8EE8-4444-A886-C90F0A0D5AB6.jpeg
Spiderman did fact nullify the blast so no one got hurt
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:FF37F775-95F8-4E0A-A6AE-277C9624D406.jpeg
Actually Spiderman replicated this feat before when he nullified a bombs explosion that would destroy a whole entire city sector and needed to be thrown in the middle of the ocean.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:788FAC13-D695-42B8-8CA6-B35F102EEA17.jpeg
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:594E224E-C39E-43EA-AB09-92515D794B89.jpeg
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:1E84BEE9-8EE8-4444-A886-C90F0A0D5AB6.jpeg
Spiderman did fact nullify the blast so no one got hurt
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:FF37F775-95F8-4E0A-A6AE-277C9624D406.jpeg
Actually Spiderman replicated this feat before when he nullified a bombs explosion that would destroy a whole entire city sector and needed to be thrown in the middle of the ocean.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:788FAC13-D695-42B8-8CA6-B35F102EEA17.jpeg
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:594E224E-C39E-43EA-AB09-92515D794B89.jpeg
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The webbing is still not consistently displayed at the same power level, but if you want to scale him to "8-A with maximum web shield", and High 8-C otherwise, I suppose that seems to make considerably better sense than his current statistics.
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