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Current issues
  • Kenji's AP rating
  • Stormfront's AP rating
  • Stormfront's Speed rating
  • Homelander's and A-Train's Lifting Strength rating
  • The SoL rating for Starlight
  • Queen Maeve's tier
  • Queen Maeve's speed
  • Homelander's tier
So in order
  • Kenji's AP rating
Currently Kenji's rating is 8-C for: "Collapsed part of a tunnel hard enough to incapacitate Homelander, brought down steel beams and a police helicopter". None of these are 8-C. The most they are is 9-A for the tunnel collapse and maybe for the helicopter blast
  • Stormfront's AP rating
Her current rating is this: "Building level (Destroyed most of an apartment complex, overpowered both Kimiko and Kenji)". This has a few issues. Kimiko isn't 8-C, her brother isn't 8-C physically, she never took or overpowered his TK (which also isn't 8-C), and she did not destroy an apartment complex. She just damaged a few floors and the next episode showed that it was still there. She should be changed from 8-C to 9-A or 9-B
  • Stormfront's speed rating
Currently its listed as: "At least Supersonic (caused a sonic boom)". The issue here is that there's no evidence of this. The sound present in her flight was not a sonic boom but her electricity crackling
  • Homelander's and A-Train's Lifting Strength rating
This comes from A-Train moving a train. The issue is that this in no way shape or form requires Class K lifting strength. IRL humans have done this before and have done it with similar heavy things before. If the wheels are not locked (they weren't) then it requires far less force to move those objects than if they were locked, which would require moving the full weight. The feat is still superhuman, but is not evidence for Class K. A-Train should be moved to either Superhuman or Class 1 and Homelander should have either Starlight or Maeve scaling
  • The SoL rating for Starlight
When A-Train raced Shockwave it was noted by the announcer that he had just shattered the previous world record and he was going all at in the race. So what was his speed? Explicitly 371 m/s and even lists his reaction time a 0.051 seconds. Starlight makes really bright light, but her actual blasts also have no evidence of being the speed of light. Wanna the clearest example of why they're not SoL? Her fight scene with A-Train. You can literally see the sparks and a normal human moving, albeit slowly, and A-Train running around them without issue. This just needs to be removed completely.
  • Queen Maeve's tier
Currently she's listed at 8-C for the following: "Caught a falling bus with a punch when she was younger, despite breaking her arm at four places. Is the second most powerful superhuman, which makes her superior to Naqib who destroyed a hut and vaporized several soldiers in it. Destroyed a moving truck by standing its way. Can snap necks by flicking them with her fingers. She has not shown the upper limit of her strength, but is slightly weaker than Homelander". So in order
  • Naqib has been calced to 9-A which is not a 8-C justification (also there's zero evidence he vaporizes anyone)
  • The Truck is legit but also not 8-C. The average weight for a Armored Truck carrying stuff for a bank is 11.35 metric tons and even if you assume it was going some insane number like 132 km/h that would still only be 7,629,720 joules or 9-B
  • Snapping necks with a finger is 9-B or 9-A not 8-C
  • Maeve is literally so scared of Homelander she sleeps with him and actively hides all of her romantic relationships in fear of him hurting her or them. Instead of fighting him directly she opts for blackmail. Finally Homelander's child easy one shot and critically wounded Stormfront in one burst of heat vision, when she was previously being pounded on by Maeve and two others for over a minute and didn't receive even a fraction of the damage he inflicted on her. There is (currently) zero reason to actually scale her to Homelander.

  • Queen Maeve's speed
Currently her speed is: "At least Subsonic (Leaped in front of a speeding truck before it crashed with two boys. Can run on walls)". There's no evidence that the truck was moving at speeds over 123.48 km/h and the other feat would not require her to be supersonic to preform. She should be changed to "At least Superhuman"


Finally
  • Homelander's tier
This is his current reasoning: "Easily destroyed a private jet. Threw a baseball several dozen, if not hundreds of kilometers away. Is the most powerful superhuman, which makes him superior to Queen Maeve, and Naqib whose self-detonation destroyed a hut and incinerated several soldiers. Is stated to be more powerful than human weapons, but he has not shown any upper limit of his strength"
  • The jet has been calced to 9-B
  • Nothing confirms he threw the baseball that far . Even taking the joke as serious in order for this feat to be 8-C he would need to throw the ball at 121,485 m/s or Mach 354. Considering it didn't even make a sonic boom there's obvious issues with saying it was moving that fast.
  • Maeve isn't 8-C as said above
  • Naqib also isn't 8-C as said above
  • The rest isn't evidence for more than 9-A unless you assume Vought dropped missiles and bombs on Homelander, which to be fair, may have happened but there's nothing confirming that it did
For now he should be changed to "At least 9-A, possibly higher" or something along those lines.

Suggested Changes​

Homelander
Stormfront
  • AP/Striking Strength/Durability: 8-C -> 9-A
  • Speed: Chane it to "At least Subsonic", "Unknown", or "At least Superhuman"
Maeve
  • AP/Striking Strength/Durability: At least 8-C -> At least 9-B
  • Lifting Strength: Class K -> Class 25 (Caught a falling bus , however it shattered her arm doing so)
  • Speed: At least Subsonic -> At least Superhuman
A-Train
  • Lifting Strength: Class K -> At least Superhuman or At least Class 1
Starlight
  • Remove the SoL rating
 
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I agree with all this, especially the light from Starlight's beams.
 
We should, but I also don't think you're going to get much beyond 9-B either and if we do get 9-A that's only more evidence that no one should be 8-C outside of maybe Homelander.
 
I agree. Here's to hoping the budget gets spent on showing Homelander's limit. Tier 7 pls
 
He was never stated as being able to survive a nuclear bomb. Stilwell said they threw everything at him but it failed to do anything, but that wouldn't include nukes. Unless you think a Corporation with no military ties could not only get access to nuclear weapons but blow it up with no government noticing or caring.

The most it really implies is large convential explosives, which isn't confirmed either.
 
This seems to have been largely accepted, but I will ping @Wokistan as he is also quite knowledgeable about the verse.
 
If we're just doing supes for now, I agree. Still got an issue with 9-B Boys minus kimiko though.
 
This is just for the Supers. The Boys are a different thing to tackle.
 
Actually, one more thing. Shouldn't Maeve be 9-A? She did help in beating up Stormfront and restrained Black Noir, who should be able to scale fully to Naqib because the blast starts out inside the guy. He'd kill himself if he couldn't handle the power of his blast.
 
Yeah, I agree with 9-A Maeve. Homelander is also using Naqib as justification to (At least) 9-A and Maeve scales.

Stormfront is also going to be 9-A, which further doesn't make sense for Maeve to be 9-B.
 
True depressed wonder woman should logically scale to 9-A, Stormfront was overpowering Starlight, Kimiko and The Boys until Queen Maeve stepped in and immediately changed the flow of the fight.
 
I forgot to update that part. Yeah I meant for Maeve to be 9-A rather than just 9-B. Stormfront would be 9-A and Kimiko/Starlight at least 9-B.
 
Idk about Kimiko being 9-A. Stormfront was boding her but Maeve beating Stormfront's tush. I don't think Kimiko properly scales.
 
Isn't Kimiko getting a "possibly 9-A" cause Marvin stated lamplighter trying to torch Kimiko would only piss her off?
 
Yeah, but same with the Ap/Durability assumption

Edit: Actually, its more believable the statement is meant for Regen, as we haven't see a limit for the Regen, while Kimiko has been overpowered by 2 9-A characters, Noir and Stormfront.
 
But she withstood several of their attacks first, which makes durability more consistent. It's less presumptuous to say she would just tank it, as that would be a way higher degree of regeneration than anything shown for fire that melts straight through metal, she would just be gone entirely.
 
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Isn't Kimiko getting a "possibly 9-A" cause Marvin stated lamplighter trying to torch Kimiko would only piss her off?
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For her durability, yeah. Though the calc needs to be posted in a blog first.

So everyone good wit the following:

  • Homelander: At least 9-A, likely higher
  • Stormfront/Maeve: 9-A
  • Black Noir: At least 9-B+, possibly higher
  • Starlight/Kimko: At least 9-B, possibly higher
 
Agree with the downgrades, though there is still potential to upgrade through calcs (of course A-train is out of luck due to explicit statements).

In addition, the TV non-powered characters need a downgrade too since the justifications are... pretty weak, and they can't tank bullets. Billy has 9-B for supposedly being able to hurt Transucent and destroying a gravestone with a sledgehammer, and for supposedly partialy tanking the explosion. Frenchie scales from Mother's Milk who scales to Hughie who scales to Translucent (yes, Hughie is 9-B and he scales to Translucent), and he punched a mercenary I suppose. Mother's Milk scales from Billy and Frenchie, and he survived a force push, and he survived a stab from Black Noir.
Terrific!



We should explore whether Naqib's explosion scales to him.
How much does Lamplighter's metal door melt yield? It is stated that his flames will only piss off Kimiko.
Homelander relocating Teddy and Billy out of the range of the explosion has a lot of potential.
Queen Maeve stopped the bus from falling by punching it with one arm, so an argument can be made for Class 50 Lifting Strength.
 
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Yeah none of the Boys (besides Kimiko) should be 9-B. Though MM and Butcher being former special operation members probably warrant a 10-A or 9-C rating.
 
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