Only if you are someone who doesnt care to actually delve into what it means. In fiction a lot of things are "made of light", that rarely makes them light speed. So actually if you had "half a brain" as you put it, you would not assume that.
Half of things in fiction are stated to be made out of light and aren't lightspeed. Negacion is light and isn't lightspeed. "Average person" ≠ correct.
Right, and in universe SS Arc Lieutenant level fighters can react to light. Kubo calls the Negacion light, thus he believes it moves at light speed (not how the wiki treats it but as Rocker said we don't care about wiki to verse right now). So in verse, Kubo has his SS Arc Lieutenant+ characters comparable to light. Do I need to say more or are we still going to argue that people think Yoruichi isn't faster than lightning.
The base assumption would be light speed though. You would need to disprove that it is since being light would suggest light speed in itself. If it is contradicted fine but that is up to you to point out.
Negacion isn't light speed by this wiki's standards. Kubo doesn't abide by this wiki's standards, to Kubo the Negacion is likely light speed.
Ok now make a bullet made out of light and put it in the chamber and pull the trigger, how fast is it going now?
This has already been explained above by me and KingTempest. And I dont think you understand what I mean by wiki standards and also simple use of logic. In this statement you are talking for Kubo. He calls it light, he never says it is lightspeed, that is your assertation.
Right because the base assumption (disregarding wiki standards) when something is stated to be light, is obviously not that it's light speed. I'm not going to continue the debate on if Negacion is light speed or not, because I don't care. The point is Kubo likely thinks it is, because he called it light, and the base assumption is that light moves at light speed.
Well yeah quite obviously actually. If it is a beam/laser. The I can understand that assumption quite easily. If it is spiritual ability that creates some weird barrier then no not really. I dont care either you brought it up not me. No there is no "Kubo likely thinks", that is something you made up yourself and something you have been doing a lot on this thread (stating random things as some kind of fact).
You realize the databooks call it a "beam of light"
I need input on this.
Real quick can you sum me up on the thread? 10 pages is a lot.
Negacion is called spiritual light (just stating what it's being called). Light in the real world is lightspeed based on properties of light, how photons always move at lightspeed, retract off of reflective surfaces, and so on.
Let me make something abundant clear.
I like the way you cut out "laser"(and the rest of my comment) cause that is clearly the type of beam I am talking about. Way to be dishonest.
Ceros are called spiritual light, Negacion is called a beam of light in the databooks. Negacion is shown once in which it travels in a straight line like light, then within the light there's this safe space to rescue those inside.
The real world or our world in Bleachuniverse is an artificial one. The magic light was part of the original nature of the world before the Soul King created the verse.
Are you willing to contradict the story to downgrade the verse? Is up to you.
I dislike the way you present shit as fact without actually knowing what shit in Bleach is. Lasers are beams of light.
Yeah the physical and spiritual world derive from the same source, so yes there's no reason to assume "spiritual" stuff differs in property from "living" stuff.
Yeah I definitely dont know about Bleach, ya got me. And if anyone is stating any random headcanon as fact it is you.
Ah yes, the databook calls the Negacion a "beam of light" forgive my headcanon that the Negacion is indeed a "beam of light"
Cero is a whole ball of whack. Cero has a variant which moves 20x faster, even though light is supposed to be a constant speed (speed of light). Negacion bends here at the bottom so idk about that one.
I'm not debating if we should treat Negacion as lightspeed on this site, I'm saying Kubo likely thinks it is, I don't care what this wiki has it at.
I am not just talking about negacion I am talking about all your other statements. Now I am not going to continue on about this. You can believe I dont know anything about Bleach and that is fine.
Bala isn't a Cero, and fiction can go faster than light. The Menos is changing the shape of the slit that the Negacion is exiting so of course the path is going to alter.
That explains it, thank you
If this has been discussed and rejected, I don't see why this is being discussed again if there is no new info about it.
Awesome so you concede to the Negacion argument. I agree there's no need for us to talk anymore.
