The Avatar of God fights the Ghost of Sparta (GAROU VS KRATOS)

[ZillertheBucko]

The Blades of Chaos are a 2-C weapon, though.

Anyways, I'd give this to Kratos. More hax. Power nullification, time manipulation, precog, deconstruction, duplication, arguably more versatile RE (as it evolves against abilities too, like time manip, and the cosmic radiation emitting from Garou,) attack reflection, etc.

So Kratos FRA. He murders Garou and absorbs his powers. Hell, Kratos even gains cosmic awareness due to this. Horray.

See arguments about radiation

Kratos would gain a resistance to the radiation due to RE anyways.

Not only would he die before that, but is there evidence that his RE covers radiation?

Bang's stamina is laughable in comparison to what Kratos can do.

Insanely good stamina isn’t type 2 immortality
if it’s going to kill you it’s going to kill you
but if somehow he withstood the point blank full force of his passive radiation then a nuclear fission attack is still enough to be overkill
and again, gamma ray burst is like, in the trillions or something? It’s over for Kratos when he’s fighting garou’s radiation.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

and again, gamma ray burst is like, in the trillions or something?

Billions

 

[ZillertheBucko]

If that's the case and they start kilometers away, has it ever killed someone instantly from high ranges like that? Like, Kratos would just evolve as he comes closer anyway.

Garou just teleports and instantly closes the gap
and yes, he spams teleport throughout the entire fight

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Billions

83.6 billion
Yeah, Kratos’ stamina literally can’t do a single thing against that

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Insanely good stamina isn’t type 2 immortality
if it’s going to kill you it’s going to kill you

Kratos literally has type 2 immortality

but if somehow he withstood the point blank full force of his passive radiation then a nuclear fission attack is still enough to be overkill
and again, gamma ray burst is like, in the trillions or something? It’s over for Kratos when he’s fighting garou’s radiation.

He could deflect the GRB with the sun shield.

 

[KLOL506]

Garou just teleports and instantly closes the gap
and yes, he spams teleport throughout the entire fight

Cool, Kratos has the Oath Stone of Orkos to teleport his clone instead that has the same exact powers as him and can also use the Amulet of Uroboros to further amplify their teleportation powers.

 

[KLOL506]

Kratos literally has type 2 immortality negation

FTFY

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Garou just teleports and instantly closes the gap
and yes, he spams teleport throughout the entire fight

Kratos defends himself with Zeus's Fury or Posiedon's Rage.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Cool, Kratos has the Oath Stone of Orkos to teleport his clone instead that has the same exact powers as him and can also use the Amulet of Uroboros to further amplify their teleportation powers.

Which changes nothing? Garou still is just going to keep teleporting and Kratos is going to die of radiation
this is assuming Kratos just keeps running away anyways

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

You know we can just reset the votes if it makes you happy. I am sure no will mind.

 

[Planck69]

As for the whole "teleportation to cover starting distance" has he ever done that?

As for RE, it covers Age Manipulation, Time Manipulation, Precognition and all the powers of the Amulet. His will is such that it can negate the powers of the Sisters of Fate over time (why is that even in his GoW key?).

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Out of curiosity, would Garou's Power Mimicry work here at all?

 

[Planck69]

You know we can just reset the votes if it makes you happy. I am sure no will mind.

There's really no need for that. Fundamentally speaking the wincons are the same as before. It's just if Garou can use them first or Kratos.

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Out of curiosity, would Garou's Power Mimicry work here at all?

Not beyond Pankration

 

[KLOL506]

(why is that even in his GoW key?).

Something something "done by his Tier 2 self at that point"

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Kratos literally has type 2 immortality

You could’ve said that earlier then, because you made it seem like radiation could actually affect him
still won’t help against a black hole through

 

[Planck69]

Something something "done by his Tier 2 self at that point"

That makes no sense unless we argue his will was boosted by the Titans at that point.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Does kratos have time stop in this key or no.

I remember there was something involving time stop in gow but not sure if kratos has such a thing

 

[ZillertheBucko]

He could deflect the GRB with the sun shield.

How so? Does it just scale infinitely above his durability or something, does it have black hole resistance?

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Does kratos have time stop in this key or no.

I remember there was something involving time stop in gow but not sure if kratos has such a thing

Yes, he spams it

 

[Planck69]

Does kratos have time stop in this key or no.

I remember there was something involving time stop in gow but not sure if kratos has such a thing

Yeah, the Amulet.

 

[Planck69]

How so? Does it just scale infinitely above his durability or something, does it have black hole resistance?

It's a 2-C shield.

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

How so? Does it just scale infinitely above his durability or something, does it have black hole resistance?

2C Sheild

 

[ZillertheBucko]

As for the whole "teleportation to cover starting distance" has he ever done that?

He spams teleport all the time throughout the entire fight, and uses it for everything from general confusion to just running away and bfr and everything
there’s no good reason why he wouldn’t use it to close to gap instantly, nothing at all

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Yeah, the Amulet.

Why can’t he just pull a za warudo on Garou and then muda muda him then?

 

[ZillertheBucko]

It's a 2-C shield.

I thought 2-C equipment was restricted??

 

[Planck69]

He spams teleport all the time throughout the entire fight, and uses it for everything from general confusion to just running away and bfr and everything
there’s no good reason why he wouldn’t use it to close to gap instantly, nothing at all

Him using it well into the fight is not the same as seeing an opponent for the first time ever and using it rather than just covering the distance. By this logic, Kratos immediately stops time and goes ham since he does that in his fights.

 

[KLOL506]

I thought 2-C equipment was restricted??

Durability only. Plus he still has his BoC which are standard equipment, variable in AP, but 2-C in durability flat-out.

 

[Planck69]

Why can’t he just pull a za warudo on Garou and then muda muda him then?

He can. I kinda forgot about it lol.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Why can’t he just pull a za warudo on Garou and then muda muda him then?

Is no one going to answer this.

i’m suprised it took me to bring up time stop in the first place or maybe you guys already brought it up and I didn’t noticed

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Him using it well into the fight is not the same as seeing an opponent for the first time ever and using it rather than just covering the distance. By this logic, Kratos immediately stops time and goes ham since he does that in his fights.

From the moment he learned how to use portals he literally does it every chance possible that he gets
It’s insane to say it’s out of character when he SPAMS it every 2 seconds

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

From the moment he learned how to use portals he literally does it every chance possible that he gets
It’s insane to say it’s out of character when he SPAMS it every 2 seconds

Time stop GG

 

[Robo432343]

nah bruh dont use RE as an argument coz its NLF

https://vsbattles.com/threads/reactive-evolution-on-nlfs.147592/

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

nah bruh dont use RE as an argument coz its NLF

https://vsbattles.com/threads/reactive-evolution-on-nlfs.147592/

Only in unreasonable circumstances

 

[Robo432343]

but kratos still win mid diff

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Time stop GG

This is clearly a new win con
can we please just reset the votes on this thread that had the ENTIRE DISCUSSION TAKE PLACE IN 2 HOURS without a single Garou supporting argument, and it doesn’t even clarify that the 2-C shield is allowed despite the other 2-C weapons being banned

 

[Planck69]

nah bruh dont use RE as an argument coz its NLF

https://vsbattles.com/threads/reactive-evolution-on-nlfs.147592/

Do you have an misunderstanding of how these powers work? He's evolved past far more esoteric stuff than Radiation. The only issue here is whether he'd do that before Cosmic Garou kills him.

Also, for goodness sake, stop posting general standard threads as though they're an argument.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

This thread is fun to watch

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

You said he likes to spam time stop so how does he do it with the amulet?

does he just think and it does it or does have to press anything?

 

[Planck69]

This is clearly a new win con
can we please just reset the votes on this thread that had the ENTIRE DISCUSSION TAKE PLACE IN 2 HOURS without a single Garou supporting argument, and it doesn’t even clarify that the 2-C shield is allowed despite the other 2-C weapons being banned

I'm neutral to doing that personally but like, there's zero rule to have us doing that.