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The Almighty: Clarification (Bleach manga and cfyow)

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Raws >> Viz, that's a fact
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Funny how we're so tight on using official translations, but then we flip flop between them and raws when theres something to go against an argument.
 
Universal fate hacks in the way it's being argued doesn't even make sense.

All the almighty does is allow you to jump to other futures.

Via the logic that's being argued he should have been able to jump to a future where the cosmology was already merged the moment he regained the ability, but rather he chooses to use a massive amount of energy to forcibly merge everything by destroying the garganta
 
So why dont we always use Raws then? Why do we use Viz at all but then when something comes up as an obstacle, we flip flop to something else to try and circumvent it?

Hell, we use Viz translations for upgrades for Bleach all the time.
Did ya notice that u're the only using it? Also, Raws are always necessary when we need to have conclusions about something
 
So why dont we always use Raws then? Why do we use Viz at all but then when something comes up as an obstacle, we flip flop to something else to try and circumvent it?

Hell, we use Viz translations for upgrades for Bleach all the time.
Raws were used in both the recent upgrade and downgrade.

I have no idea how you aren't aware of this since I was under the impression it was common knowledge, but raws are always held to a higher standard over Viz, go to literally any CRT where the upgrade is dependant on the translation and people will always demands the raws.
 
Which returns us to the manga scan of it and omnipotence being treated the same.
No, the scan just says omnipotent power. Argumentum Ad Nauseum.
And I did. Your only point against it was omniscience not being mentioned, and that was easily explainable for it has nothing to do with the splitting feat.
Countered this already.
See above.
Doesn't prove anything. Just saying it's likely with confidence, guess I have to repeat myself till you actually counter me.
The almighty didn't amp him. He restored his strength to then USE it.
So he needs a certain level of strength to handle a Universal hax? What proof is there that you can't use The Almighty without that physical level of power?
Nope.
It doesnt. It has everything to do with them when they are trying to kill him, which became an oportunity because he had neither ability.
No it doesn't. Him not having Omniscience when he's asleep wouldn't be necessary to say here. Yet he said it anyway. Why is that? Because it's always referred to as 1 specific thing.
And its still called Omnipotent. End of story right there.
No. You're the one twisting context to fit your narrative. I'm just being straightforward.
Because Yhwach had neither power. Jugram had them both. With both of those powers, Yhwach was forseen as invicible and was no longer that because he momentarily lost them.
Ok. But Omniscience doesn't matter in this scenario, the same way it didn't in the world-busting scenario. Why would he have mentioned the Omniscience bit when he's asleep anyway? He can't use it, he's asleep.
 
No one is using viz except you.
Oh so you guys didnt use Viz to upgrade Bleach above its 5-B downgrade?

You know, when we downgraded them for that statement on Reio regulating the soul cycle but then upgraded them using Viz's translation of him stabilizing the soul society?

We never used Viz for Bleach?
 
Oh so you guys didnt use Viz to upgrade Bleach above its 5-B downgrade?

You know, when we downgraded them for that statement on Reio regulating the soul cycle but then upgraded them using Viz's translation of him stabilizing the soul society?

We never used Viz for Bleach?
Raws is used to confirm things, if Raw says something but Viz says other, Raws will be the reilable, u should know it, on this case, Viz is wrong
 
Oh so you guys didnt use Viz to upgrade Bleach above its 5-B downgrade?

You know, when we downgraded them for that statement on Reio regulating the soul cycle but then upgraded them using Viz's translation of him stabilizing the soul society?

We never used Viz for Bleach?
Who cares? In this instance viz is wrong and that is all that matters.
 
The raws are used to confirm whether or not Viz is accurate. Nothing more, nothing less. If the official translations are brought into question, then we translate the raws ourselves.
 
to prevent derail, just restating we have shown the uryu scan translates to the almighty
 
Because we use the raws to confirm things. This is how it's done for almost every JP verse.
And it's honestly astonishing that you believe Viz to be the absolute truth.
Not the absolute truth. But something that we have most definitely used here and the recent threads would show you exactly that. Hell, this came up in the Muken thread Arc made where we had several pages of arguing between viz and raw translations because of both being used and the flip flopping being called out on.

Either use one or the other.
 
Not the absolute truth. But something that we have most definitely used here and the recent threads would show you exactly that. Hell, this came up in the Muken thread Arc made where we had several pages of arguing between viz and raw translations because of both being used and the flip flopping being called out on.

Either use one or the other.
My dude, you are literally saying that we need to use wrong translations? if Viz is right, we use it, but on this case, Viz is wrong because the Raws says otherwise
 
muken is irrelevant here. Viz can be used there arent any translation issues. the uryu scan has one, it was lost in translation
 
Not the absolute truth. But something that we have most definitely used here and the recent threads would show you exactly that. Hell, this came up in the Muken thread Arc made where we had several pages of arguing between viz and raw translations because of both being used and the flip flopping being called out on.

Either use one or the other.
This is a false dichotomy, we use the accurate translation, not Viz or not Viz.
 
You have been debunked on everything, even the scan you posted support us, your interpretation is straight up wrong, it doesn’t even make sense, never in 700 chapter of the ******* manga is remotely stated that Almighty can create things.

it even has a different kanji from the one used to say “his great power to create the universe” instead of all-seeing which is the ability, it’s so obvious which is the correct interpretation, you are just writing long paragraph Answering to everyone just for the sake of arguing Against it.

Everyone with a good comprehension of the text would understand what is the context, it even has a different kanji, which is different form the constantly used all-seeing Referred to the ability.
 
My dude, you are literally saying that we need to use wrong translations?
No but I am saying we need to be consistent about whats used. If you use raws, forget viz entirely. Don't pick and choose between the 2 of them because it helps you to suit an argument.

And this is ignoring the fact that its funny we take translations from fans translating the raws instead of professional translators whos job is to be close to accurate as possible. But our translation standards in general here are very bad, so this isn't specifically verse-specific.
 
Im not really familiar with Bleach but ive come across this thread and the way it is handled here kinda pisses me off which is why im responding

@ProfessorKukui4Life
you're claiming that Bleach uses almighty as Omnipotence/Omniscience interchangeability which is an extraordinary claim and extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
Then can you bring up more than 1 scan that uses almighty as Omnipotece/Omniscience interchangeability?
 
Dude, if you want to change standards on the usage of raws and site translators being reliant, by all means. But we have shown the kanji is literally just almighty
 
That's not how it works. Lol go make a CRT about translations which you likely will anyways. Why do you think we have the translation thread to request proper translations by trusted members?
 
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