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Yep, dont forget hikone thoSo what Kukui is saying...Is Ichigo has the Almighty
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Yep, dont forget hikone thoSo what Kukui is saying...Is Ichigo has the Almighty
Only if you ignore what he said a sentence priorExcept a scan directly from the manga you like to latch onto so strongly? A scan that outright proves what im saying is the case?
Again, if you don't want to use this translation it's fine, you just don't have any evidence to seperate the almighty from yhwach.Meanwhile your side is continuing to use explained fan-translations instead of being tactful and actually using whats officially translated to fight with here.
Its "hard to grasp" because im not seeing what makes it anything more than a non-argument. Omniscience isn't mentioned because it has nothing to do with the splitting the world feat. The scene speaks about Reio's "almighty power", not his knowledge. Thus, omnipotence.Because The Almighty is specifically stated to be Omnipotence and Omniscience? I don't see what's so hard to grasp about that. If it was referring to The Almighty, it would keep it's consistency and call it Omnipotence and Omniscience.
See above.Unless you can definitively prove it for the downgrade, then the speculation really doesn't mean anything.
You mean someone who wasn't fighting a fully powered Yhwach?Activating the Almighty let him do more physically impressive feats, like 1 shotting someone who he was physically fighting evenly beforehand? idk what else to tell ya chief.
See first response.Ok? That's entirely irrelevant here. He specifies that he doesn't have the omnipotence and omniscience, but the Soul king is only stated to have Omnipotence, not Omniscience. We also know the Soul king STILL has the almighty when we see him.
And again, see first response."its very easy to see why" That doesn't PROVE it though. Nothing you've brought forth PROVES anything, what we're shown is that the Almighty is always specifically referred to as All Powerful and All Knowing. If you can find a case where it's specifically shown to be ONLY referred to as Omnipotence, go ahead and post it. Otherwise, you're working with speculation, which we don't accept in cases for downgrades or upgrades.
Okay but I wont be budging from my stance that this specific wording of something being missing somehow means its a counter argument. At the end of the day, its still called Omnipotent. In one such case, Omnsicence is mentioned, because Yhwach lost the ability to see the future when Jugram took his power. Thus, Uryu saying he was no longer Omniscient as well.In short, get a scan where The Almighty is specified as only being referred to as Omnipotence (not the scan you're claiming it means, since it's vague), and I will concede. But till then, I won't be conceding to speculation that requires an extra assumption.
Yes, his sheer energy.Quick thing, wasn't Yhwach going to destroy everything with his soul crush?
What?Quick thing, wasn't Yhwach going to destroy everything with his soul crush?
And for the upteenth time sigurd, I don't give a shit about what the translation's literal wording says.Also, Uryu scan is also the same.
全知全能 = Omnipotent and Omnscience
The Almighty” is 全知全能 (the furigana in that scan is “ji oorumaiti” aka The Almighty)
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There goes your only shred of evidence I guess.
That‘s enough to debunk, Drop it Kukui.Also Uryu scan is also the same.
全知全能 = Omnipotent and Omnscience
The Almighty” is 全知全能 (the furigana in that scan is “ji oorumaiti” aka The Almighty)
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There goes your only shred of evidence I guess.
Lol prove it. right now you have nothing besides headcanon.And for the upteenth time sigurd, I don't give a shit about what the translation's literal wording says.
What I care about is the context. And Uryu obviously meant both are the same by bringing it up in the first place.
At this point you're stonewalling and being dishonest and INCREDIBLY stubborn.And for the upteenth time sigurd, I don't give a shit about what the translation's literal wording says.
What I care about is the context. And Uryu obviously meant both are the same by bringing it up in the first place.
He is asking if he is gonna destroy it via raw energy/powerWhat?
Yes, his sheer energy.
"Omniscience isn't mentioned because it has nothing to do with the splitting the world feat" Ok, but that doesn't prove it's referring to the Almighty.Its "hard to grasp" because im not seeing what makes it anything more than a non-argument. Omniscience isn't mentioned because it has nothing to do with the splitting the world feat. The scene speaks about Reio's "almighty power", not his knowledge. Thus, omnipotence.
Because it's always referred to as one thing. You have to prove otherwise, speculation isn't enough.Im literally not seeing how this argument holds just because one word isn't said.
Never proved it. Just said it's likely what happened with confidence.See above.
A not-fully-powered Yhwach that became full power with the Almighty omegalulYou mean someone who wasn't fighting a fully powered Yhwach?
Doesn't prove anythingSee first response.
Doesn't prove anythingAnd again, see first response.
Omniscience also has nothing to do with Uryu and them being able to kill him while it's down, because he's incapacitated. He can't do anything. Your point falls apart, yet again.Knowledge has absolutely nothing to do with the splitting of the world feat, and thus, Omniscience wouldn't be randomly brought up.
It's called Omnipotence AND Omniscience. Boom. Done.Okay but I wont be budging from my stance that this specific wording of something being missing somehow means its a counter argument. At the end of the day, its still called Omnipotent. In one such case, Omnsicence is mentioned, because Yhwach lost the ability to see the future when Jugram took his power. Thus, Uryu saying he was no longer Omniscient as well.
Why would Omniscience be important when it comes to killing a sleeping Yhwach? His Omniscience doesn't matter if he can't fight. Why did Uryu mention it?The Soul King's feat has nothing to do with this ability to be all knowing, so why would Omniscience be mentioned? It wouldn't be. And that leaves Omnipotence left.
Or you guys can learn what context means and stop treating translations as a bigger priority over the meaning of the words.At this point you're stonewalling and being dishonest and INCREDIBLY stubborn.
Ah okHe is asking if he is gonna destroy it via raw energy/power
Original txt and their meaning >>> your headcanonOr you guys can learn what context means and stop treating translations as a bigger priority over the meaning of the words.
You mean the meaning you're fabricating?Or you guys can learn what context means and stop treating translations as a bigger priority over the meaning of the words.
It didn't say omnipotent, it used the exact kanji for the ability,. your argument has no basis.Or you guys can learn what context means and stop treating translations as a bigger priority over the meaning of the words.
Or you can stop twisting stuff to favor you. Because once again. Does Ichigo have the Almighty Now?? ??Or you guys can learn what context means and stop treating translations as a bigger priority over the meaning of the words.
This thread is only for SK as of now sooooIsn't Soul King the only person that scales?
thats literally what is being argued, nothing moreIsn't Soul King the only person that scales?
No, the Soul King just did it casually. We just see that Yhwach was gonna undo what he did and that Ichigo in the Novel is hyped to being able to do the same. Although in the context of the thread, yes. It's not whether he scales or not. Its wording being arguedIsn't Soul King the only person that scales?
Which returns us to the manga scan of it and omnipotence being treated the same."Omniscience isn't mentioned because it has nothing to do with the splitting the world feat" Ok, but that doesn't prove it's referring to the Almighty.
And I did. Your only point against it was omniscience not being mentioned, and that was easily explainable for it has nothing to do with the splitting feat.Because it's always referred to as one thing. You have to prove otherwise, speculation isn't enough.
See above.Never proved it. Just said it's likely what happened with confidence.
The almighty didn't amp him. He restored his strength to then USE it.A fully powered Yhwach that became full power with the Almighty omegalul
It does.Doesn't prove anything
Doesn't prove anything
It doesnt. It has everything to do with them when they are trying to kill him, which became an oportunity because he had neither ability.Omniscience also has nothing to do with Uryu and them being able to kill him while it's down, because he's incapacitated. He can't do anything. Your point falls apart, yet again.
And its still called Omnipotent. End of story right there.It's called Omnipotence AND Omniscience. Boom. Done.
Because Yhwach had neither power. Jugram had them both. With both of those powers, Yhwach was forseen as invicible and was no longer that because he momentarily lost them.Why would it matter if Yhwach was ASLEEP and couldn't fight back though? Why would he mention that?
See above.Why would Omniscience be important when it comes to killing a sleeping Yhwach? His Omniscience doesn't matter if he can't fight. Why did Uryu mention it?