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ah alright that makes sense. How about AE?My bad, its 4. Apologies
well uh, im not in the discord serverI disagreed with it. It is type 2, and I am pretty sure we have this discussion in discord.
Not everyone is on the Discord server and not everyone is in on the discussion you mentioned.I disagreed with it. It is type 2, and I am pretty sure we have this discussion in discord.
I agree with Cloth Manipulation and Enhanced Power ModificationAre you neutral for all abilities? Or is it for some abilities?
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Oh yeah there's nothing in Tensura that shows they are remotely abstract in nature. People don't realize how difficult it'd be prove something is abstract, because they tend to take statements of "embodiment" as an immediate qualifier.AE type 1 would need more evidence to me, the statements aren't very elaborate within the series and so it seemed more flowery language, mainly because true dragons were never said to have resurrection tied to anything in the universe, it just wasn't elaborated, the same involving regeneration, they haven't shown themselves to be abstract either, and before anyone else says it, they need a body to interact with the world because they're a spiritual life form and not because it's the source of the world or anything like that
actually not even A type 2 serial valid here, I don't remember any character from LN being linked to any abstractionAgain, I find AE type 1 so weak, AE type 2 is fine for me, unless you prove the abstractness in verse.
True dragons are concept type 2actually not even A type 2 serial valid here, I don't remember any character from LN being linked to any abstraction
Oh then, its fine for me. I feel the evidence is weak for AE type 1 anywayactually not even A type 2 serial valid here, I don't remember any character from LN being linked to any abstraction
There is none, and I am talking about this fairly, because we had this discussion in the discord for ages ago.Can someone further elaborate on the Holy will of nature and some correlating stuff regarding it. There seems to be contentions
True Dragons is seems to invulnerable but they aren't definitely uninteractible. So can only qualify for Acausality Type 4.Type 5 it would need to specifically imply they are uninteractable or invulnerable to it due to being unbound by causality rather than something else.
What you're saying here doesn't really make sense.Since someone who doesn't have feat of affecting type 5 but is not bound by the laws of the world as well being able to tag them would be a contradiction.
Let me explain from the beginning.Can someone further elaborate on the Holy will of nature and some correlating stuff regarding it. There seems to be contentions
I don't know which context you are talking about.If there is a strong counter argument and If I don't know. Please state it. Here I am debating whether the statements alone are sufficient.You did not explain him context at all.
True dragon are Holy Will Of Nature. Guy Crimson describe them as Natural Phenomena. True Dragons exist only by their Will and will continue to exist as long as their Will exists.Can someone further elaborate on the Holy will of nature and some correlating stuff regarding it. There seems to be contentions
Not everyone is on the your discord server and not everyone is in on the discussion you mentioned.There is none, and I am talking about this fairly, because we had this discussion in the discord for ages ago.
Was merely saying in invul or uninteractable nature is not solely from causality but something else it doesnt really meet the type 5 criteria for being uninteractable since the invul nature could be from other things and not just causality.What you're saying here doesn't really make sense.
I think you misunderstood the context.
Well the very gist of AE type 1 is that any physical form they could have are only going to be Avatar. It being limited type 1 means they are basically powerless or has no impact to reality anymore aside from being a nature or law that exist or cannot create an avatar on their own as mere abstract.True Dragons have Limited Abstract Existence Type 1 as they are already a Spiritual Life Form. (They have a Spirit composed of İnformation Type 2 and are similar to Elemental Spirits, who are the embodiment of World Laws for their true nature (Essence/Core).
In this thread, it is requested to give Abstract Existence Type 1 (Concept Type 2) for True Dragons.
"Holly Will of Nature" "Source of World " for True Dragons
expressions such as
So we're arguing about them being Type 2 Concepts.
They were never portrayed as non-interactable entities, but the expressions used for them contain some evidence that they are some kind of concept of nature. If this is accepted, they will be considered purely abstract entities and characters that interact with them will have a better NPI based on Type 2 Concept.
I think Type 2 Concep is acceptable, but even if it is not accepted, they can still have an Abstract Existence Type 1 as "Holy Will of Nature".
"on my discord", fairly it is not my discord, it is y'all discord. And you were there in that discussion and still in that server and we had discussion with RE about this.Not everyone is on the your discord server and not everyone is in on the discussion you mentioned.
There is definitely no such thing here.Well the very gist of AE type 1 is that any physical form they could have are only going to be Avatar. It being limited type 1 means they are basically powerless or has no impact to reality anymore aside from being a nature or law that exist or cannot create an avatar on their own as mere abstract.
I think it's clear what the OP wants.If they are to have AE 1 for being a holy will of nature. Then they have to meet those standards if by chance they are limited on specific powers as abstract it should be notated how limited they can be in that state
Which in matter of fact is AE type 2, not limited AE type 1.There is definitely no such thing here.
The only reason it is limited is because they have a physical body, and they can only exist as Soul if they want.
I'm on that server, but I'm not participating in that discussion."on my discord", fairly it is not my discord, it is y'all discord. And you were there in that discussion and still in that server and we had discussion with RE about this.
What you say means nothing. AE 2 is completely irrelevant.Which in matter of fact is AE type 2, not limited AE type 1.
"Spiritual Life Forms"AE type 1 has a requirement of lacking completely psychical body and being absolute pure abstraction, which in our case, they still have psychical body.
.True Dragons have absolutely no attachment to their bodies.
Their bodies are the result of the beliefs of the people around them.
Hmm… To tell the truth, I do not need any core at all… You can keep a secret, I trust? As I said, I am both unique and the most perfect of my kind. A fully unique creation, one that takes purely spiritual form. I have no particular attachment to this body. It is merely the faith of those who live around me that forms the shape you see. (Volume 1)
they are just a willExisting with only their soul is still not sufficient. They need to be pure abstraction.
True dragon are Holy Will Of Nature. Guy Crimson describe them as Natural Phenomena. True Dragons exist only by their Will and will continue to exist as long as their Will exists.
In other word, they are a Concept Of Nature
Thats why its limitedHow so? AE type 1 has a requirement of lacking completely psychical body and being absolute pure abstraction, which in our case, they still have psychical body.
I don't see how is this AE type 1.
Soul=İnformation Type 2. I assume you know this.They need to be pure abstraction
This does not prove anything, any evidence of their abstractions? Their interaction with others? I doubt any of those exists.they are just a will
Holy will of nature. They exist only as a Will.