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It absolutely is. It is very well written.good.Is it worth reading?
The description of it is legit SoL tho...i mean the fact alone it's formed from condensed natural light from the sun, etc. already confirmed itAlso, Megiddo might not be exactly Speed of Light in this wiki's standards and even in the manga, unfortunately. I'll try to recheck the novels if this is consistent, later since I'm quite busy at the moment. It will end up being Relativistic+.
If i remember correctly after Rimuru becomes a ultimate slime,he said thatWhen will Rimuru &.co hit FTL again? Still waiting on that Chloe being faster than time feat, but just making sure.
They don't even need to be FTL in combat tbhIf i remember correctly after Rimuru becomes a ultimate slime,he said that
"The speed of "Thinking Acceleration" has been increasing since I gave the name "Ciel" to the King of Wisdom. What was originally a million times faster, is now hundreds of millions of times more so.
Shockingly, this is the level at which even the speed of light can be perceived."
That means probably perception speed ftl and also he said that
"It is not necessary to say that the unleashing of magic is naturally faster, even the unleashing of 'Space Shift' has become nearly a thousand times faster. In other words, as long as I can keep a certain distance, I can escape even with light-speed attacks by "shifting"".
And that means he can somewhat react to light speed.But not physically faster.
But i guess he has space time manipulation after he got azathot.So,he can probably stop time and then accelerate himself by million times like the wn,if i remember.But you most likely need to wait for next vollumes to see it.
Correct and Veldora Journals are wonderful, they also hint or imply that GS was developing or had an ego but simply wasn't aware of it. Whereas Raphael is consciously aware of its self and even recognizes the anomaly but tries to ignore it. Also, GS rewarding and tricking Veldora into working is hilarious. That all ultimately lead to Veldora getting Faust through GS's and Raphael's guidance. Oh it's also cool to know that Raphael's form is similar to Rimuru's just colder.I checked Yen Press's Volume 5, and it does explicitly state that it goes at the speed of light. I just remembered that it also mentions Megiddo taking 0.034 seconds reaching a target 6 thousand miles away, which is 284001882.353 m/s compared to the wiki's 299792458 m/s (a 15790575.647 m/s difference).
Although I suppose, you only need to add over 300 miles to make it actual light speed, so the novel might have meant six thousand miles as a rough estimate and not the exact number.
It still is a fact that Veldora referred to Megiddo as near light speed, though I suppose this time Yen Press haven't made any translation errors regarding Megiddo.
Well, another fun fact from Veldora's Journals is that it wasn't Raphael who came up with the counter to Benimaru's trap question regarding Shion's cooking. Raphael actually consulted Veldora, but it was Ifrit who provided the answer that Raphael then told to Rimuru (blaming Benimaru for the secret password). More than some great Veldora/Ifrit banter, this was one of the first indication of Raphael truly forming an ego and sense of self. Stuff like these is why everyone should read Veldora's Journals.
That moreso happened because he tried detaching a part of his consciousness. Which is why he fell unconscious for the first time in his life. The other time being he was performing analysis tasks with multiple instances of his consciousness. Which basically lead to him gaining Parallel Operation. GS was just continuously sowing seeds for Veldora's revival and Irift to grow stronger. Though he still hasn't attained his unique skill as they wanted. But he'll hopefully get one later.Another interesting things from Veldora's journals are spiritrons and infons.
Spiritrons rae building blocks of magicule and the basis of Disintegration. Essentially this is spirit particles from the novels.
Infons are the building blocks of the soul. Chances are this is information particles. Great Sage was unable to detect and analyze Infons without Veldora's Unique Skill Inquirer's help, when they were trying to analyze the souls of the dead within the barrier. The act of using Inquirer to the maximum level fried Veldora's brain and calories as he claims.
Veldora seem to be a far more nuanced and better written character in the manga.
I only have the official translations. I suppose this is another planet=star when it comes to Japanese words, then?I guess someone should get the Japanese scan to get evaluate it here.
It would also destroy the Otherworld that I think Rudra/Michael created, although I suppose we don't know the size of it exactly.I know this point is another point but we got planet-level Carrera (Volume 15 Chapter 5). I guess there is more credence to 5-B true-dragons.
We would probably need to discuss more in the future.
There are statements IIRC about Velgrynd's individual heat blast being able to vaporize asteroids and I think Rimuru defended against them. Not sure if Rimuru would be 5-B but Beelzebub should at least be at that level probably, even without integrating it to a clone.A thing, though, I think thinking. Rimuru though food chain gets stronger relative to being at a worst relative to his subordinate. Assuming, for example, 5-B is valid and an outlier, then the end Demon Slime could be 5-B in volume 15; though, it could go into another key.
So they won’t really hit it physically?If i remember correctly after Rimuru becomes a ultimate slime,he said that
"The speed of "Thinking Acceleration" has been increasing since I gave the name "Ciel" to the King of Wisdom. What was originally a million times faster, is now hundreds of millions of times more so.
Shockingly, this is the level at which even the speed of light can be perceived."
That means probably perception speed ftl and also he said that
"It is not necessary to say that the unleashing of magic is naturally faster, even the unleashing of 'Space Shift' has become nearly a thousand times faster. In other words, as long as I can keep a certain distance, I can escape even with light-speed attacks by "shifting"".
And that means he can somewhat react to light speed.But not physically faster.
But i guess he has space time manipulation after he got azathot.So,he can probably stop time and then accelerate himself by million times like the wn,if i remember.But you most likely need to wait for next vollumes to see it.
Don't know.He will probably.We just have to wait for next arcSo they won’t really hit it physically?
Okay,i mainly google translated the page of the Japanese version of veldoras travel journal in vollume 12 where the confusion is,and it also says starThe Chinese translation said planet. I think someone checked the Japanese statement and planet was stated, also.
I guess someone should get the Japanese scan to get evaluate it here.
If a valid star is valid, the tier would be 4-C on the safe side. The average star is around the size of the sun which is 4-C. Destroying some (2 to 3) 4-C stars together is still 4-C since the gap from 4-C to High 4-C is around ~5.59x, at face value.
I know this point is another point but we got planet-level Carrera (Volume 15 Chapter 5). I guess there is more credence to 5-B true-dragons.
We would probably need to discuss more in the future.
A thing, though, I think thinking. Rimuru though food chain gets stronger relative to being at a worst relative to his subordinate. Assuming, for example, 5-B is valid and an outlier, then the end Demon Slime could be 5-B in volume 15; though, it could go into another key.
Though, the raws probably would need to be checked. I notice stars have been wrongly translated to a planet before like in the case of WN in the comparison of Veldora sword being comparable to a planet in some bad translations where raws said it was comparable to a star (Chapter 245).
DeepL translates it with similar meaning."目につく もの を 全て 喰らい 尽くし 、 やがて は 星 すら 呑み込む ほど に 成長 する ―― そんな 恐るべき 化け物"
I mean, isn't it pretty straight?If someone can regenerate from complete destruction of soul,then that mean they can regenerate from information erasure,which is high godly.How does everyone feel about this again?
Yup, that's greatQlipoth made a translation of the Stars/Planet feat here.
Can you extract the text with Hinata saying Gluttony is a threat to the world? There might be a comparison between the word "world" that Hinata uses that might differentiate planet and star, I guess.Yup, that's great
Okay,will it be okay if i try and extract the whole side page?Can you extract the text with Hinata saying Gluttony is a threat to the world? There might be a comparison between the word "world" that Hinata uses that might differentiate planet and star, I guess.
Basically both planet/star seem to be valid, we still need other people's thoughts on it lol
The safest bet might be 5-B, possibly 4-C.
OkayI think just Hinata's statement which was right after the Gluttony devouring stuff is fine. The rest of the page isn't really necessary, I think.
Shogo didn't kill Shion. A random solider did while she was protecting a child. How weak was Hakurou? I don't think we know. As for Razen, its more so he thought the nuclear magic that'd activate post-mortem would likely kill them.I think some changes for the Falmuth forces' justifications should be made. They're being scaled to Ifrit which I don't recall being stated in the novels (somebody correct me if I'm wrong). They were also not necessarily as fast as Hakurou was.
There isn't really any controversial changes aside from adding "Likely" to Shogo's and Kyoya's speed and "At least" to Folgen's and Razen's AP and durability, most are just fixes for their justification.
Shogo Taguchi
Kyoya Tachibana
- AP: Mountain level+ (Comparable to Geld and was able to one-shot his shield crafted from Charybdis's scales. Implied to have killed a weakened Kijin Shion)
- Speed: Likely Massively Hypersonic (Comparable to Geld who mostly just defended against his attacks)
- Durability: Mountain level+ (Can take physical blows from Geld)
Folgen
- AP: Mountain level+ (Defeated and critically wounded a weakened Kijin Hakurou)
- Speed: Likely Massively Hypersonic (Defeated a weakened Hakurou, although was easily blitzed when the latter was at full strength)
- Durability: Mountain level+
Razen
- AP: At least Mountain level+ (Superior to Shogo and Kyoya. Comparable to Ifrit whom at that time has grown strong enough to defeat the Sky Dragon)
- Speed: Massively Hypersonic (Should be superior to Shogo and Kyoya)
- Durability: At least Mountain level+
- AP: At least Large Mountain level (Veldora estimated his strength to be a level above Orc Disaster Geld. Hakurou deduced that he, Geld or both of them would've died fighting against Razen)
- Speed: Massively Hypersonic (Should be superior to Shogo and Kyoya)
- Durability: At least Large Mountain level
Let me know if a CRT is necessary for this, I'll just make one after Milly's is over.
Was it ever shown or told who killed Shion? I don't really recall, so I'd assume the one who did her was the one she was fighting. Otherwise, we can just remove the Shion part if it's not what happened.Shogo didn't kill Shion. A random solider did while she was protecting a child. How weak was Hakurou? I don't think we know. As for Razen, its more so he thought the nuclear magic that'd activate post-mortem would likely kill them.
There was a CRT already made, I think. You can make your comment there.High-Godly makes no sense btw. Information particles are physical....they aren't literal information.
Souls are information in Tenslime. Regenerating from that state should be High-Godly.I guess I am neutral on both cases in the 5-B and 4-C Gluttony.
Are you sure information particles are physical?
Information particles still make up intangible things like souls as discussed in one of the last threads. Volume 13 Chapter 7 expanded on this point.
I think there was a context that the Great Spirit of Space still makes the information in a past Tensei Discussion thread. I can't found it yet. I think it was from a guide like LN 8.5 and 13.5.
I kind of want to hear, what is the argument for Mid-Godly. If it around basically from regeneration from erasure and information being the smallest unit of exist is valid, then the regeneration would most likely be High-Goldy.
High-Godly: The ability to regenerate after the erasure of body, mind, and soul, along with at least one even more fundamental aspect of a character's existence, such as their place in the narrative, their entire history, or the underlying concept(s) or information needed for them to exist.
I suppose we'll wait for what CP thinks. If we trust the official translation, it'll be 4-C. If nothing else, it could be 5-B, likely 4-C.I guess I am neutral on both cases in the 5-B and 4-C Gluttony.
True Dragons and Primordial Demons still survive even the complete destruction of their existence, which is the physical body, the spiritual body which is essentially the mind, and their cores/soul. Only that it takes longer time for some, except for Diablo or the True Dragons if I'm not mistaken.Mid-Godly: The ability to regenerate from the complete erasure of body, mind, and soul.
What? I’m referring to both, but not combining them. It just scales to both continuities.I suppose we'll wait for what CP thinks. If we trust the official translation, it'll be 4-C. If nothing else, it could be 5-B, likely 4-C.
I think the issue with High Godly is whether or not the information particles/pieces or infons can be qualified as information in the High Godly definition. Which is a separate fundamental aspect of their existence. Milly's CRT is also using both WN and LN sources, which I believe is supposed to be separate. Combined with my uncertainty of the topic, I'll remain neutral for now until I reread the novels, which might not be any time soon.
If Milly's CRT is referring to WN profiles, then that's my mistake. I'm not familiar with it so my comments would be invalid. I'm only referring to the LN.
The argument for Mid-Godly basically tackles the same feats for High Godly except information particles aren't considered as indication of High Godly.
True Dragons and Primordial Demons still survive even the complete destruction of their existence, which is the physical body, the spiritual body which is essentially the mind, and their cores/soul. Only that it takes longer time for some, except for Diablo or the True Dragons if I'm not mistaken.
Upon reading the CRT, there isn't really any indication or labels that the scans you presented were from the LN or the WN, except for scans that have chapter numbers in them (which would be the WN). The first paragraph's scans about information particles seem to all come from the WN. The second paragraph of characters regeneration come from the LN. The third paragraph, a blog by CP, were about the WN. Correct me if I'm wrong.What? I’m referring to both, but not combining them. It just scales to both continuities.
Dude, no, that’s not that point I’m making. The point is, both continuities are made from information in their smallest sense, LN & WN, including the soul. Regenerating from the soul, aka information, would be High-Godly.As far as I know, scans from the WN can't be used as evidence for the LN, and vice-versa, since the two can have massive differences (Correct me if I'm wrong). Just because information from the WN indicates High Godly regen, doesn't mean the LN will have it as well.
My point is that you should also provide scans from the LN talking about information particles, not just from the WN. In the same vein, also provide scans of Rimuru regenerating from Melt Slash from the WN, not just the LN. You can't mix the two and portray them as supporting each other.Dude, no, that’s not that point I’m making. The point is, both continuities are made from information in their smallest sense, LN & WN, including the soul. Regenerating from the soul, aka information, would be High-Godly.