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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20
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World there means planet, not universe.
World doesn't mean universe in every context.
Anyway i have done myself and helped in a few major revisions, and i will have some free time like Monday and Tuesday, will see if i can do a CRT for volumes 9-11.
I have many profiles i wanna create for various verses, not gonna get to create any new characters or verses for a bit.
World doesn't mean universe in every context.
Anyway i have done myself and helped in a few major revisions, and i will have some free time like Monday and Tuesday, will see if i can do a CRT for volumes 9-11.
I have many profiles i wanna create for various verses, not gonna get to create any new characters or verses for a bit.
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Honestly, I talked with MrDrProfessorPatricio and was going to work on CRT with the evidence that I have this week since he is busy but if you can a more concrete thread then it is good, CP.
I know no WN changes and the concept manipulation removal most likely won't be a topic but I would think they can be handled in CRT in a few weeks from now.
I know no WN changes and the concept manipulation removal most likely won't be a topic but I would think they can be handled in CRT in a few weeks from now.
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If you were already in the process of doing it, that's cool.
Was just gonna do it, if no one else could. I will just add anything to the actual thread that i think is missing.
I still got some other CRTS to make.
Was just gonna do it, if no one else could. I will just add anything to the actual thread that i think is missing.
I still got some other CRTS to make.
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Characters that scale to Shizue should be downgraded to massively hypersonic (because Black Lightning being FTL was a mistranslation), and demon lord level characters to at least relativistic-relativistic+ due to numerous statements suggesting they're just near lightspeed instead of beyond it. FTL perception speed is probably fine though.
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@Celestial_Pegasus hi, sorry, I know you are a busy person but the thread was closed but I was wondering if this helps for my crt earlier
Thank you for your time
Thank you for your time
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You are using 2 seperate instances to prove that world=universe.
In that context which you just posted, it means universe, however nothing proves in the other it also means the same.
In that context which you just posted, it means universe, however nothing proves in the other it also means the same.
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Gotcha, thanks for the reply!
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I made the content revision thread; a head up, it is mostly focused on abilities additions as I said earlier.
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These are from the same chapter, explaining how the stopped world affected the worlds "laws" and chloe shook the atmospheric pressure of the world, which means she shook the "world" contradicting its laws.
I know it doesnt EXACTLY say that the stopped world she shook say it is the universe, but every single time "world" was brought up was suspended world affecting universal laws having no contradictions for range nor ever changing the context back to their planet, having always meant either the universe or the ability. If it doesnt count please feel free to ignore me
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Yeah, that sounds about right.
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I think someone should make a calc about the perception speed of Thought Acceleration
It's supposed to be 1 second = 277 hours
I think that's under MFTL+ level of perception iirc
It's supposed to be 1 second = 277 hours
I think that's under MFTL+ level of perception iirc
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Now that I have the full raws from Voxel, I found interesting statements. Specifically surrounding Velgrynd's descriptions of the universe.
Secondly, this actually lines up with the whole Chloe situation. It is not possible to have multiple of the same entity in the same timeline. But Chloe's power allows her to disregard such laws. So to compensate the world makes one Chloe inactive (future Chloe). The same with Hinata. And the mask was created as a byproduct of the paradox. BUT all that matters is that this would normally be impossible without such time manipulation.
As such Velgrynd can travel to any point in time where she already exists. That appears to be the only limitation besides having to know where she traveling before going there.
So yeah very interesting information.
This isn't really anything new, just more evidence for multiple universes.
Alright, this one has some pretty big implications. Firstly, Velgrynd makes reference to different timelines. She even says "parallel worlds do not overlap".
Secondly, this actually lines up with the whole Chloe situation. It is not possible to have multiple of the same entity in the same timeline. But Chloe's power allows her to disregard such laws. So to compensate the world makes one Chloe inactive (future Chloe). The same with Hinata. And the mask was created as a byproduct of the paradox. BUT all that matters is that this would normally be impossible without such time manipulation.
As such Velgrynd can travel to any point in time where she already exists. That appears to be the only limitation besides having to know where she traveling before going there.
So yeah very interesting information.
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60 x 60 = 3600 x 24 = 86,400 x 365 = 31,536,000 x 10 = 315,360,000 seconds in a decade
315,360,000 s x 299,792,458 m/s = 9.45425496E+16 m/s
9.45425496E+16 = 94,542,549,600,000,000 m/s
94,542,549,600,000,000 / 299,792,458 = 315,360,000.1505041x SoL
I could be wrong but that's what I got.
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What’s the discussion? Rimuru’s reaction speed?
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The time leap made more sense compare to the WN
I wonder if characters' acausality will remain based on the info we have right now
I wonder if characters' acausality will remain based on the info we have right now
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I'm not a math guy but as long as you got 1,000+ x SoL, you already qualify for MFTL+ level
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True; to be fair the LN and WN don't have the same canon so the WN profiles should not be affected, in short.
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Could you explain how you got that? Why is a decade involved?
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Rimuru's max Thought Acceleration is 100,000,000x base. Which he described as experiencing a decade within a second in real time.
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Rimuru's max? I'm pretty sure it's more than that...Ciel's Thought Acceleration is hundreds of millions after all
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Woah woah is this LN? And I thought this was a calc for 1 sec = 277 hours
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Well, he got a hundred million times faster than light in his calculation, even if we reduce it to Raphael's 1 million times thought acceleration it will still be MFTL+ perception.
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That is for the later volumes for Ultimate Slime Rimuru (Vol 15) but the 1 sec = 277 hours is for Demon Slime Rimuru which needs a calc.
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I mean, using the same calc as the other guy
60×60=3600
3600×277=997,200
997,200×299,792,458=298,953,039,117,600
298,953,039,117,600/299,792,458=
997,200 faster than SoL. Which i mean makes some sense to me, could be wrong, but is slowing down his perception of time to be 1/997,200 of it's original speed. I'm kinda dumb tho
60×60=3600
3600×277=997,200
997,200×299,792,458=298,953,039,117,600
298,953,039,117,600/299,792,458=
997,200 faster than SoL. Which i mean makes some sense to me, could be wrong, but is slowing down his perception of time to be 1/997,200 of it's original speed. I'm kinda dumb tho
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That is for 1,000,000x
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No. Its for Rimuru, why would Thought Acceleration before Ciel? If Rimuru speeds up then so does Ciel. They share a mind and soul.
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That's what i mean tho...i mean Rimuru can do it bcs of Ciel after all while Raphael only a million times...Ciel is a Manas, it's still Rimuru's skill/abilityNo. Its for Rimuru, why would Thought Acceleration before Ciel? If Rimuru speeds up then so does Ciel. They share a mind and soul.
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Unless you are saying that Rimuru wouldn't scale to it then I fail to see the relevancy. But I hope you know that Rimuru can and has used Thought Acceleration on his own. Ciel does activate pretty much every time they have an internal conversation. And if it deems that Rimuru needs it or some reason. But the skill being what it is has nothing to do with Ciel.
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I don't get what you're trying to say actually...i clearly said that Ciel is Rimuru's skill/ability and the reason he's Thought Acceleration is hundreds of millions times...while with Raphael it's just a million times...just that nothing more...also Thought Acceleration is always under GS/Raphael's sub-skill and then integrated to Ciel
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Alright, guess there's nothing left to say
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Can anyone link me the raw for chapter 215: time accelerated (web novel)
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Can we also add Light manipulation in powers and abilities, and Light Beams in notable attacks in Charybdis's profile?
It also had an attack (anime-only) with a light beam that creates an explosion that towers over a mountain, but I'm not sure if it yields anything significant or if it is even quantifiable. No idea how to upload the gif though.
Also, Charybdis is a female IIRC, not a male.
It also had an attack (anime-only) with a light beam that creates an explosion that towers over a mountain, but I'm not sure if it yields anything significant or if it is even quantifiable. No idea how to upload the gif though.
Also, Charybdis is a female IIRC, not a male.
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- It seems like the changes would be uncontroversial and if you add the evidence in the profile, it seems fine to add the ability.
- The feat to be calculated, I think.
- We can link the gif, in the new forum; only bureaucrats can upload materials.
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Thank you so much! Im doing this for a CRT for chloe. Can i get your opinion on something? I was stumped on whether or not "The world" meant universe or the actual planet when it says chloe shook the world when she broke out of velzards absolute fixation.
That's the part where it says she broke free and this:
Is where the kanji is similar. The first option in "world" is the same as the second option for "universe." Im sorry if google translate isn't reliable, but I dont know the language nor anyone who does. And there is a lot more to ask, so ill just keep it short, in every other translation coming out as "the world" it is either describing the effect from suspended world, suspended "world", or how the laws of the "world" such as time, emissions and more no longer work. I can add them if you need, my question is if every previous scenario of the translated "world" referring to the universe and the kanji being the same, could this be enough context for it to count for chloe?
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Typically they'll use 宇宙 (Uchū) for Universe. But Sekai (世界) can be used as well, but context is needed to know for sure. Post the kanji for the quote so we can look at it. At most, it'll probably translate to "world" but you can argue its talking about a universe.Thank you so much! Im doing this for a CRT for chloe. Can i get your opinion on something? I was stumped on whether or not "The world" meant universe or the actual planet when it says chloe shook the world when she broke out of velzards absolute fixation.
That's the part where it says she broke free and this:
Is where the kanji is similar. The first option in "world" is the same as the second option for "universe." Im sorry if google translate isn't reliable, but I dont know the language nor anyone who does. And there is a lot more to ask, so ill just keep it short, in every other translation coming out as "the world" it is either describing the effect from suspended world, suspended "world", or how the laws of the "world" such as time, emissions and more no longer work. I can add them if you need, my question is if every previous scenario of the translated "world" referring to the universe and the kanji being the same, could this be enough context for it to count for chloe?
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This is the feat that I was talking about.
Charybdis can use light beams in both the LN, manga and anime as far as I know.
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The Anime and manga are based on the LN, no?, I think that they skipped a lot of important stuff in both adaptations.
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