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probably when volume 15 is released which is when the main characters have their greatest feats besides having the first explanations about the slime skill system and cosmology
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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20
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in volume 15 it is said that the material worlds are inside the spiritual world and it is ruled by them, but I don't know if they are all, as I wish volume 15 would come out soon 
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just a question there are 3 spatial dimensions and 1 temporal, 12 spatial dimensions is 1B, 12 temporal dimensions are also 1B?
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Technically yes isn't it?! since this is about dimensional axes, i.e. both space and time can count I think
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what is said about cosmology exactly? I thought the explanations were more in Vol 17
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this is when the ultimate skill users battle kings begin, when Velgrind discovers the other worlds and also where he has the most feats
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it is the largest volume of the work so far so it is expected that the feats will be gigantic and the translation delay will also be gigantic
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Velgrynd doesn't use pure speed, but his ultimate skill which is space-time manipulation, in the battle of Velgrynd vs Rimuru, it was shown that spiritual lifeforms cannot exceed the speed of light, Velgrynd had his body torn apart only by going a few thousand times faster
Peak
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Wouldn't that be weird if it were true? Rimuru says that digital lifeform has the maximum fixed value speed, which is the speed of information particles, so why didn't she use that level of speed to defeat Bonnie and Jiu? And how could Rimuru/Raphael/Ciel not notice that Chloe's body is an abstraction composed of information while watching her battle? There are a lot of inconsistencies if it's a digital life form from the start
Peak
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In vol 16 and 18 there are some explanations about the verse hacks too, like the ultimate skills, Fuse explained a lot of cosmology in the last volumes, despite leaving a lot open too
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So if the higher dimension is confirmed, wouldn't Velgrynd's ability be 5D?
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Anyone who can stop tie is a Digital Lifeform. As for V12/V14 stuff, Chloe and Chronoa could properly control their powers. Also the maximum value uf for transfer of information. So if they are moving in a world forces and transfer of energy exist they don't need to transfer information to different information particles to move. It'd be more inconsistent to say they suddenly became Digital Lifeforms (besides Rimuru of course). Especially since with the whole dimensional barrier between those who are and aren't.
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You can't equate temporal and spatial dimensions. Temporal irregular dimensions that can't concretely defined. And Hilbert Space universal models their would always be one single temporal dimension. There's no reason to believe their would be more.
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I intend to be the biggest roadblock upgrading anything in Tensura beyond Star level for the foreseeable future. Unless there's something more substantial and concrete in future Volumes. Which highly doubtful considering the scale of the battles, but who knows?in volume 15 it is said that the material worlds are inside the spiritual world and it is ruled by them, but I don't know if they are all, as I wish volume 15 would come out soon
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I was thinking that maybe we should changed the position of the summary and profiles of WN/LN
So instead of this
[Summary] → [Web Novel's Power of the Verse] → [Light Novel's Scaling Chain] → [Profile]
We should arranged them like this
[Web Novel's Summary] → [Web Novel's Power of the Verse] → [Web Novel's Profile] → [Light Novel's Summary] → [Light Novel's Power of the Verse] → [Light Novel's Scaling Chain] → [Light Novel's Profile]
What do you think?
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there's not much to update, only the demon lords levels would be 5b and the true dragons levels low2c, even if the verse has superior worlds if the translations are correct, apart from Veldanava and probably Ivaraj, no one scales for that
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the important thing is the amount of skills and characters you have in volume 15
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have to organize better how it's going to be, but it's already a good idea
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I think that would be the most plausible, but Velgrynd's skill is not applicable to combat from the looks of it
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no, the world is 5d but Velgrind is not, the only 5d on the back are Veldanava and possibly Ivaraj
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yes it is applicable to combat, but it is more of a ranged skill
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Uh, you really gave a satisfactory explanation to me, thanks, and do you believe in the infinite/immeasurable speed of digital lifeform or are you still afraid about it? I would appreciate hearing your opinion.
Peak
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Velgrynd's hax having managed to reach a 5D (if confirmed) wouldn't make the hax 5D?
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It makes sense, as long as Velgrynd picks a target, she can use her skill to go there directly, just need to know the limitations of that, she probably can't reach the spot where Feldway's body is.
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she can reach that world, but she can't affect, the most she can do is resist being in that world, at best it's a feat of resistance
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I understand, so it's not a big deal after all
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this final stretch he seems to have already planned at least
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for me, Yuuki had a good outcome, although I think it's unlikely, I hope he stays dead, his goals are also different from WN, but if it were for me to say, it's heading to be Ivarage or Feldway
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I think it's bare minimum Inaccessible speed but since VSB doesn't have that tier it'd at least infinite. But the explanation is quite blatantly implying immeasurable speed but for it to concrete we'd a feat or more direct statement.
Just my personal opinion with regarding profiles, I think its clear that Digital Lifeforms can interact with their surroundings instantaneous. But since they aren't limited by time or distance, simply the ability to transfer particles, the question becomes...if they want transfer they information to a different point in time, how do they make the transfer.
They have to locate the particles first because its all based transferring information since we don't the process of its determined outside an individuals sensory capabilities I'd say it wouldn't be sound to say Immeasurable quite yet.
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**** no. Sorry but I WN PTSD. Also it'd make even less sense and he'd manage to a ******* villain with a weaker motivation this time.
Literally anyone else, keep that fool dead.
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The problem with Spacetime Leap is that Velgrynd can't determine a location so its always just jumping to where Rudra's fragments were. That's how she ends in the same world multiple times but does initially realize it. Velgrynd needs a way to determine the coordinates but that'd be asking her to track different space-time continuums....which she can't do.
So Spacetime Leap's only real use outside of instant teleportation is just Spacetime Continuous Attack. At least imo the skill on its own is kind of useless with no more Rudra to track.
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Ctugha doesnt necessarily only track Rudra, it can track any entity. So in a way Velgyrnd could probably use it to chase someone around the multiverse or something
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I mis a lot things here
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Ivarage would be another disappointment along with Michael, Fuse has been hyping him since vol16, but honestly I would prefer Feldway to Ivarage, because for now Ivarage only thinks about spreading evil, wouldn't have a real battle of ideals with Rimuru or anything like that, like Rudra and Granbell, while Feldway has something relatively deeper
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I understand, so according to what you think, it might be that immeasurable speed might only be applicable to combat, that would explain some loopholes about digital lifeform
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