Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

[Community_Gamer]

Laplace has one of best written backstory and death, you can't change my mind

Yeah but Slivia is so cool and her boo was right there. I am sagge

 

[Community_Gamer]

Yeah, I loved his dialogue with Rudra in vol14 because it is a moment where Rimuru is pressured and loses tactically and and this is where he must have thought the most about his own ideals, with many times him not knowing how to respond adequately to convince Rudra, but I feel a greater determination in Rudra to continue his goals after sacrificing so much, while Rimuru will always try to be pacifist even in a war, like the act of reviving 700k of empire soldiers

All of the main antagonists are different versions of Rimuru if he had or hadn't done something. What's so great about Rudra being Rimuru's counterpart is because Rudra sees his naive self within Rimuru. And unlike previous antagonists Rudra didn't give he lost his innocence and no longer appreciated the reason why he wanted to unify the world. Basically Rudra is Rimuru if he lost his idealism. Man I wrote a several paragraphs breaking down the narrative specifically the juxtaposition of antagonists with Rimuru.

 

[Community_Gamer]

I wish I liked Kagali more, but I think her backstory is really bad

Jahil is secretly my favorite villain, not antagonist though. That man is so cruel and actually menace but he's cunning and interesting. He really set up so much of the current plot, I wouldn't mind him being the final villain. There's no common ground or convincing with him.

Also I like Kagali

 

[LoganKroos]

you are forgetting the great Testarossa!!!!

 

[LoganKroos]

you are forgetting the great Testarossa!!!!

her story with Blanche will probably happen like Diablo's presentation in the anime, and everyone goes crazy with this story lol easily the highest rated woman in anime when it launches

 

[Diablo_]

you are forgetting the great Testarossa!!!!

I got PTSD after that .Its was far more scary and cruel compared to WN

 

[LoganKroos]

sometimes as a fan I even get worried and anxious about the rimuru tier that I forget what made me a fan of this anime, wonderful verse, a true masterpiece

 

[Peak]

Velgrynd is a fantastically written character and her development is so satisfying.

My problem with the his intelligence is a bit uncomfortable at times at least based off of his backstory. And the he's basically fed up with injustice because his parents died... BUT most of his actions aren't justice. His arrogance isn't really explained either he's just really arrogant in thinking he can always get out on top. Yuuki i is far more enjoyable in LN but yeah he's kind of in over his head and constantly making mistakes, so I'd be if died.

Also saying he wanted to take out the powerhouses, so he could create a paradise with his friends is dumb. Look at Rimuru and Granbell.

I think Fuse's best decision was volume 17, not only did I love following Velgrynd's perspective but I was also positively surprised by Rain, that character oozes charisma, watching her chapter was really fun for me, I mean, look at the way she starts lol

Nice to meet you all.


My name is Rain.


Eh, you don’t know me?


You’re a ******* idiot, you know that?


I’ll beat you up.


Go back to school and study

I mean, we're talking about a primal subordinate of Guy, I can't help but laugh a lot at that.


About Yuuki, he wanted to completely reshape the world, but of all the antagonists, he was the least convincing in his ideals, but from what i remember he wanted to take down all the powerhouses because they were not under Yuuki's control, arrogance can come naturally, but it's no wonder that in this aspect, Rimuru always thought of Yuuki as a child after hearing about his flawed ideals, how can i say this, it looks like it was something on purpose by Fuse?

 

[Peak]

All of the main antagonists are different versions of Rimuru if he had or hadn't done something. What's so great about Rudra being Rimuru's counterpart is because Rudra sees his naive self within Rimuru. And unlike previous antagonists Rudra didn't give he lost his innocence and no longer appreciated the reason why he wanted to unify the world. Basically Rudra is Rimuru if he lost his idealism. Man I wrote a several paragraphs breaking down the narrative specifically the juxtaposition of antagonists with Rimuru.

It makes me think, if Rimuru couldn't keep everything under control, such as not being able to revive Shion and the others, he would probably be much more "corrupted" than Rudra, Fuse shows us some of this in isekai memories in the story where Rimuru dies against Hinata and fully regenerates 3 years later, this would also prove more about Granbell, where he said he couldn't accept Rimuru because if he lost control the world would collapse, something like that, and well, he almost completely loses control against Rudra and in Isekai Memories the world really collapses.

 

[LoganKroos]

hear Spoilers that slime will not end with 23 volumes but 26 probably 27, but I don't know if it's true, I hope it is, because then it would be perfect to detail the story, I think it's true, I got the spoilers from Japanese raw

 

[Peak]

her story with Blanche will probably happen like Diablo's presentation in the anime, and everyone goes crazy with this story lol easily the highest rated woman in anime when it launches

I got PTSD after that .Its was far more scary and cruel compared to WN

What scene are you referring to exactly? I don't remember for a while, but I think you're referring to something from vol12 or 13?

 

[LoganKroos]

What scene are you referring to exactly? I don't remember for a while, but I think you're referring to something from vol12 or 13?

13.5

 

[Peak]

sometimes as a fan I even get worried and anxious about the rimuru tier that I forget what made me a fan of this anime, wonderful verse, a true masterpiece

I understand the feeling, when i started watching i had no idea verse was strong

 

[Peak]

hear Spoilers that slime will not end with 23 volumes but 26 probably 27, but I don't know if it's true, I hope it is, because then it would be perfect to detail the story, I think it's true, I got the spoilers from Japanese raw

I think 23 volumes will be the main story and then it's after story as Fuse had said in his account

 

[Peak]

13.5

Thanks

 

[LoganKroos]

I think 23 volumes will be the main story and then it's after story as Fuse had said in his account

it's not from the story, it was in the descriptions that veldanava, the spirits and the Void would appear

 

[Peak]

it's not from the story, it was in the descriptions that veldanava, the spirits and the Void would appear

do you have the link?

 

[LoganKroos]

do you have the link?

I had taken it from Tik Tok, it showed the Japanese raw and the translation, but I don't know if it's true, I think it was a twitter print if I'm not mistaken, I'll look to see if I can find it

 

[Peak]

I had taken it from Tik Tok, it showed the Japanese raw and the translation, but I don't know if it's true, I think it was a twitter print if I'm not mistaken, I'll look to see if I can find it

I'll try to find it too

 

[Peak]

I managed to find it on tiktok, I don't know if it's true either, but from what Fuse says, he doesn't intend to make Rimuru stronger than Rimuru WN, his plan is to leave this role to Veldanava, but he is still in doubt about it, I honestly think it's good, he's not just focusing on Rimuru's power but on the problems that reported to him about the Webnovel

 

[Peak]

the manuscript was submitted and the information have been analysed,yay I might end it in apparently 5 to 6 more volumes, which I don't know. there's alot of errors in the web novels which I received from my locals, the one about "veldanava", "The great spirits" and finally "the world of void" I don't know but I kinda didn't focus in all those things during the writing and scripting of the novels for some reason and due to my belief in power and in experience rimuru being the strongest totally went out of sight,ha.

it was kinda the wrong expression, I'm not planning to make rimuru to be as strong as the rimuru in the web novels, but I want to still find a way to do so,I can't think of anything rimuru in the web novel series can't have that the light novel piece would, maybe I'll conduct that soon, but verily verily, I am not planning to make rimuru the "strongest" since I also believe in supremacy,so that's where the role of "veldanava" kicks in. ah maybe you'll hear more from my future

blogs be patient and thank you for your ease in this covid19 era

this is his statement using the translator, but again saying, I can't tell if it's true, but it probably is

 

[LoganKroos]

this is his statement using the translator, but again saying, I can't tell if it's true, but it probably is

it's not that rimuru won't be stronger than his web novel version, it's that he won't be as strong as he is in the web novel, but in volume 19 itself rimuru has already become stronger than his web counterpart, I think rimuru will probably still be the 2nd strongest, or 3rd since Ivaraj is there too, and apart from the great spirits

 

[LoganKroos]

I think this would further consolidate the tier of veldanava, being the Omnipotent and even with the unlimited potential of rimuru and Ivaraj they still wouldn't be stronger than him, Veldanava has everything to be a big boss in fiction

 

[Peak]

it's not that rimuru won't be stronger than his web novel version, it's that he won't be as strong as he is in the web novel, but in volume 19 itself rimuru has already become stronger than his web counterpart, I think rimuru will probably still be the 2nd strongest, or 3rd since Ivaraj is there too, and apart from the great spirits

a while ago I said that I wanted Fuse to balance things out and not make Rimuru so above all verse, it looks like my subtle request will be granted, I think in the end it will be more or less like this

1° Veldanava
2° Rimuru
3° Ivarage
4° Feldway
5° Guy
6° Chloe

Something like this, Zelanus and Milim should get into this mess too

 

[Peak]

I think this would further consolidate the tier of veldanava, being the Omnipotent and even with the unlimited potential of rimuru and Ivaraj they still wouldn't be stronger than him, Veldanava has everything to be a big boss in fiction

If the 5D world is proven, Veldanava can get L1-C for creating that, not to mention the promised land that must also be his creation.

 

[LoganKroos]

a while ago I said that I wanted Fuse to balance things out and not make Rimuru so above all verse, it looks like my subtle request will be granted, I think in the end it will be more or less like this

1° Veldanava
2° Rimuru
3° Ivarage
4° Feldway
5° Guy
6° Chloe

Something like this, Zelanus and Milim should get into this mess too

Rudra destroys most there, and Velzard, Velgrind and Veldora also enter, and don't forget Dino who at his peak can be Guy level

 

[Peak]

Rudra destroys most there, and Velzard, Velgrind and Veldora also enter, and don't forget Dino who at his peak can be Guy level

I agree with everything but Dino, he's far from weak, but we're talking about Guy, Dino shouldn't even compare to him, even though Dino didn't fight seriously, he lost easily to Zegion who also didn't fight at all, Zegion is inferior to Diablo who is also inferior to Guy, and well, besides, apart from Veldanava and Rimuru, no true dragon beats Guy

 

[LoganKroos]

I agree with everything but Dino, he's far from weak, but we're talking about Guy, Dino shouldn't even compare to him, even though Dino didn't fight seriously, he lost easily to Zegion who also didn't fight at all, Zegion is inferior to Diablo who is also inferior to Guy, and well, besides, apart from Veldanava and Rimuru, no true dragon beats Guy

Dino got a lot weaker when he turned into a fallen angel, plus he never really fought and didn't even use all of his abilities to the fullest, and outside of the web novel, at his peak in heaven he's more powerful than the trio of Rimuru

 

[LoganKroos]

Dino got a lot weaker when he turned into a fallen angel, plus he never really fought and didn't even use all of his abilities to the fullest, and outside of the web novel, at his peak in heaven he's more powerful than the trio of Rimuru

At the height of his strength he even thought of taking revenge on Milim when Veldanava died, but he realized that this would not be Veldanava's will and not even he himself would be satisfied with it, so he protected her in the shadows and later officially became one of your servants

 

[Peak]

Dino got a lot weaker when he turned into a fallen angel, plus he never really fought and didn't even use all of his abilities to the fullest, and outside of the web novel, at his peak in heaven he's more powerful than the trio of Rimuru

well, none of Rimuru's subordinates is comparable to Guy, only Diablo when Guy hadn't materialized in the human world.

 

[Peak]

At the height of his strength he even thought of taking revenge on Milim when Veldanava died, but he realized that this would not be Veldanava's will and not even he himself would be satisfied with it, so he protected her in the shadows and later officially became one of your servants

Probably he would be beaten by Milim in the same way though.

 

[LoganKroos]

Probably he would be beaten by Milim in the same way though.

Dino never showed his true power and even then he still almost reaches the top 10, in the light novel if he is well developed he can enter the top 10 easily

 

[Peak]

Dino never showed his true power and even then he still almost reaches the top 10, in the light novel if he is well developed he can enter the top 10 easily

I wonder, if you look closely at the god tiers of Tensura, he struggles even to be in the top 20

 

[JV_DLS]

If the 5D world is proven, Veldanava can get L1-C for creating that, not to mention the promised land that must also be his creation.

If 5D is proven and there really is this dimensional hierarchy in Slime, of having worlds with more dimensional axes than others, wouldn't the promised land be even bigger than this world? since it was said that seen from there, everything seems to be a dream or in other words fiction.

For me this could fit in high 1-B, well maybe it's not the case of 1-B but I think it would be something more than the 5D world of Velgrynd

 

[LoganKroos]

If 5D is proven and there really is this dimensional hierarchy in Slime, of having worlds with more dimensional axes than others, wouldn't the promised land be even bigger than this world? since it was said that seen from there, everything seems to be a dream or in other words fiction.

For me this could fit in high 1-B, well maybe it's not the case of 1-B but I think it would be something more than the 5D world of Velgrynd

If there are worlds above that 5D yes, series 1B

 

[JV_DLS]

it's not that rimuru won't be stronger than his web novel version, it's that he won't be as strong as he is in the web novel, but in volume 19 itself rimuru has already become stronger than his web counterpart, I think rimuru will probably still be the 2nd strongest, or 3rd since Ivaraj is there too, and apart from the great spirits

So it's not that he's not stronger than his WN version, but that he, unlike this version, isn't the strongest in the Slime universe?

 

[LoganKroos]

So it's not that he's not stronger than his WN version, but that he, unlike this version, isn't the strongest in the Slime universe?

Yes

 

[JV_DLS]

If there are worlds above that 5D yes, series 1B

But would it need higher worlds beyond this supposed 5D world?

 

[LoganKroos]

But would it need higher worlds beyond this supposed 5D world?

yes for example there is an upper world beyond the 4th dimension of past, present and future where those same directions are irrelevant, there are several transcendent worlds, what remains to be seen is that these transcendent worlds are above that 5d world, if you have concrete proof of translation so the slime multiverse would be hyperversal

 

[JV_DLS]

yes for example there is an upper world beyond the 4th dimension of past, present and future where those same directions are irrelevant, there are several transcendent worlds, what remains to be seen is that these transcendent worlds are above that 5d world, if you have concrete proof of translation so the slime multiverse would be hyperversal

I thought that the promised land fit in because they were described as a world that sees reality as a dream, in my head this could be seen as a trivialization of reality in view of the promised land, and therefore it would be infinitely above any other . world or dimension fitting into High 1-B, but I understood that more higher worlds are needed for that.

Is there any way for a universe to get 1-B or high 1-B without having this hierarchy? like if a world is declared to have infinite spatial dimensions, being a world so tall that the other worlds look like mere fiction in comparison to it, that could give it high 1-B?