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don't have, Madoka has omnipresence 2-A and acc5
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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20
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Ok
Peak
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volume 15 all primordials should receive reactive evolution, right? Ultima says in her fight against Damrada that the reason she was the weakest of the primordial trio is because she didn't feel the need to be stronger, while Testarossa, Carrera, Diablo and Guy always sought to improve themselves more, and during the fight against Damrada, she is said to constantly evolve, she did the same against Pico and Gracia in vol19, Guy was also constantly evolving against Rudra and Velzard in the past, so this should support that the primordials have RE as well. Or it could be accelerated development too
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Ultimate ability users can analyze the abilities of others and cancel them, where does that fit?
Peak
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I think it's power nullification
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now the volume where this is described has escaped my mind, but I will look for it, I remember that someone said that users of ultimate abilities can hide the information of their abilities and at the same time invade the information of others and create defenses for that power in specific or even copy, like rimuru copying guy's barrier and dino hiding his power from rimuru, i'll look for the exact chapters
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That was V6 during Walpurgis.
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No way. Not even a percentage and honestly I hope he never will.
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Velzard, Rain, Misery, and Dagruel were maintaining the planet's stability so it didn't get destroyed. Velzard hasn't ever fought her niece and I doubt she'd want to. She's not a True Dragon so her usual methods won't work.
All I was trying to say is that affecting Milim's mind while impressive is less impressive then over now given the context.
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why do you expect him to never win? I think there's a great chance he'll pass since Madoka is 2A with acca 5, a low 1c already hits her
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I have some questions, but I understand what you mean and I agree anyway.
Peak
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It's not like reaching low1-C is easy, and having acc5 is actually really hard, and I don't think that would suit Tensura's verse, I honestly wanted an ending with the characters a little more balanced, but I think I'm asking too much
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we don't know the power limit of beings with supreme abilities nor digital beings, maybe they can be stronger than we think or not, I look forward to volume 20
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Tensura is one of my favorite works with the best world building I've ever seen, so I'm looking forward to it too, I think it's going to be something fun just knowing that Milim will get into action
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I think the possible highlight for Zelanus, Feldway and their subordinates was precisely to balance things a little more, of course in the end Rimuru will definitely be stronger than everyone else, but I doubt they won't evolve either, it's likely until they have beings of the same type. same level as Rimuru in the end like Ivaraj and Veldanava
Slime has everything to get to 1-C or higher, it may even be that the fuse has already done that with Vol 17 but the VSB needs more than a few quotes like "worlds beyond space-time" and so it's disregarded , the problem is that Fuse always leaves this sort of thing for us to figure out for ourselves, and for updating characters that's not good
for example, when Velgrynd says "innumerable worlds", maybe it means it has infinite universes, but you don't see anyone theorizing about 2-A because clearer statements are needed to get there. Honestly I'm kind of torn, on the one hand I want Slime to get to level 1, and I see a lot of potential for that with the statements that fuse hasn't explained yet, but on the other hand I see that fuse isn't too worried about it, and maybe all the statements that haven't been explained yet are just for our own interpretation which is one of the things Slime does a lot so I'm glad Rimuru hits 2-A or even 2- B, at least his Hax already seems to be improving in comparison with WN
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it's not that it needs more context, it's just that it hasn't been translated yet, volume 14 released this week, besides that there's still a lot of things to be explained on the back, besides that where I read it was written "uncountable" and not " innumerable", but we have to wait for the new translations and volumes to come out
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Honestly, I'd rather have more interesting/complex hax and abilities over just dimensional increases. I think peaking at universal+ would fit fine. Anything else beyond would probably be forced.
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I would find it forced if, for example, Gabiru was 1B for example, but characters like the primordials, Zegion, Benimaru, I don't think it's forced since slime always had these things of laws that govern worlds, so having dimensionality in it I wouldn't find it forced
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Veldanava and Ivaraj for example I wouldn't find it a bit forced they have absurd tiers since both came before creation and always proved to be absurdly above any being in tension, and Guy and Rimuru being the two characters with the greatest potential to reach their heights
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where did you get that
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from the light novel, so far i have only found it twice
In response to Masayuki’s wish, a ‘Lucky Field’ was set up, granting an immense blessing for all those who stood by Masayuki.
The truth of the world had been reached—the Ultimate Skill ‘King of Heroes’ was in full effect.
The truth of the world had been reached—the Ultimate Skill ‘King of Heroes’ was in full effect.
Peak
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you described my feelings about Tensura, the higher the tier, the easier it is to find inconsistencies and outliers, the final stretch of WN is full, for example, DBS after the fight against Bills was also full of inconsistencies, and I think Tensura fans who don't care about character scaling wouldn't want anything of something very exaggerated
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I also strongly agree with that, Fuse has created one of the best power-up systems in my opinion, and he is very creative in empowering characters.
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Given the context, it seems to be a synonym for the voice of the world, as Fuse doesn't seem to have delved too deeply into it, but I can't really confirm that.
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It's not just about any particular characters. It has work for the narrative and is necessitated by the plot. Basically, the scale needs to move gradually to be compelling OR Fuse would have to write the nastiest plotline that builds up with insane pacing that somehow all works without being forced.
But I guess it doesn't really matter where it ends up because power scaling and fighting aren't what the story is about nor is it my favorite aspect.
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Chloe too.
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I don't know if Fuse would have time for this in 3 volumes, so I don't think I would like it if he made the verse more complex unnecessarily in the final arc, but that depends on what Fuse intends to do from now on, mainly in relation to Veldanava
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its about the complexity of the verse
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As long as Fuse never says or too heavily implies that Rimuru is Veldanava...I'm chilling. If he does the he might actually ruin the story for me. At least anything relating to Rimuru.
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its like a thing far greater than the voice of the world
[ that is what i understand ]
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i see, thanks for your opinion
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ohw wait they do has infinite mana
in the profile ma badd
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no problem
Peak
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i hate it when they put things like reincarnation in stories like this, it reminds me of the disaster that was naruto in the ninja war, Veldanava not showing up so far makes me fear for this outcome
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The WN kinda slightly hints this
Can such a being exist?
No, it must exist. It is undeniable that such a being exists.
However, for it to be a Unique Monster who was born from a collection of magic essences leaked from Veldora, by chance, is impossible.
Even if she looked at herself right now, compared to before, her condition is more optimized and in better shape.
She has a feeling that her energy levels has somehow increased.
So in other words, that slime, who manifested her, has a container that simply surpasses the total amount of her energy.
(I can’t believe it. Such a being…… as far as I know, there’s only one――）
No, it must exist. It is undeniable that such a being exists.
However, for it to be a Unique Monster who was born from a collection of magic essences leaked from Veldora, by chance, is impossible.
Even if she looked at herself right now, compared to before, her condition is more optimized and in better shape.
She has a feeling that her energy levels has somehow increased.
So in other words, that slime, who manifested her, has a container that simply surpasses the total amount of her energy.
(I can’t believe it. Such a being…… as far as I know, there’s only one――）
「YOU, WHO THE HELL ARE YOU――――!?」
Yuuki shouted at me with the emotions of shock and agitation.
As I heard him, I laughed.
Yuuki’s silliness is too damn funny.
Yuuki is too ignorant to a fault, I can only laugh.
Mikami Satoru.
Rimuru Tempest.
――Or perhaps I can even be called Veldanava?
Me? Who am I?
Isn’t that obvious!
My name is――――――――
Yuuki shouted at me with the emotions of shock and agitation.
As I heard him, I laughed.
Yuuki’s silliness is too damn funny.
Yuuki is too ignorant to a fault, I can only laugh.
Mikami Satoru.
Rimuru Tempest.
――Or perhaps I can even be called Veldanava?
Me? Who am I?
Isn’t that obvious!
My name is――――――――
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I don't really like this reincarnation either, if it's something like a fragment of veldanava's soul it's even acceptable, as rudra and masayuki are different people, now Rimuru being veldanava without memories for example, then it would be bad
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