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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

Peak said:
I think it's better to forget about turn null being pure void, as it has been said that it is energy and has absorption power, like when it was used against Feldway in Leon castle, transduality I don't know where it could have
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most likely to be nep is where veldanava and ivaraj came from
 
Peak said:
The speed nerf was already justified in vol19 so I'm satisfied, it was to introduce the absurd speed of digital lifeform, other characters should reach this same level, but for me even 2-A is a shot in the foot
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I don't think everyone will evolve to digital lifeforms .So only a few would reach immeasurable speed (Hopefully) and the likes of Gabiru who had MFTL+ speed in WN won't have it in LN .
 
Diablo_ said:
I don't think everyone will evolve to digital lifeforms .So only a few would reach immeasurable speed (Hopefully) and the likes of Gabiru who had MFTL+ speed in WN won't have it in LN .
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I really wanted gabiru and gobuta to become digital beings, I'm already imagining if that happens I'll make fun of my friends saying that in dragon ball land gobuta is god lmao
 
I really didn't care about Micheal until he had the coldest prologue in the series. And I was surprised he was beaten so fast but I didn't care because there's no actual ideological conflict between him and Rimuru. Feldway was always more interesting and he obviously stronger than Micheal. I don't know who's the final villain but I don't care about the physical confrontation because that's not what the series is about. Hell Rimuru doesn't even have to defeat the final villain and it wouldn't be a big deal.
 
Diablo_ said:
Yeah .Anyone interested in Diablo vs Goku ?
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it's going to be a stomp, don't do it, not even goku xeno who is the most powerful version has ways to finish Diablo because of the high-godly regeneration he has, in addition to type 2 abstract existence, while Diablo's ways to kill Goku are absurd, to begin, no version of him even surpasses the tons of passives the Diablo has. And that goes for the LN version too
 
Community_Gamer said:
I really didn't care about Micheal until he had the coldest prologue in the series. And I was surprised he was beaten so fast but I didn't care because there's no actual ideological conflict between him and Rimuru. Feldway was always more interesting and he obviously stronger than Micheal. I don't know who's the final villain but I don't care about the physical confrontation because that's not what the series is about. Hell Rimuru doesn't even have to defeat the final villain and it wouldn't be a big deal.
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I agree, no wonder the best villains are Rudra and Granbell
 
guys, what do you guys think of the concept of dreams being applied to slime? because Fuse seems to be very inspired by Lovecraft (I highly recommend it!!!!) like in the novel and manga, the human Rimuru had a dream of his life after reincarnated, and the reincarnated seem to have memories of their past or future lives as if it were. dreams, and the promised land is the end of the cycle of reincarnation and they see everything as if it were dreams, apart from the title of dreaming dragon of ivaraj who will probably be the final villain of tension, everything revolves around these dreams, what do you guys do you think?
 
LoganKroos said:
guys, what do you guys think of the concept of dreams being applied to slime? because Fuse seems to be very inspired by Lovecraft (I highly recommend it!!!!) like in the novel and manga, the human Rimuru had a dream of his life after reincarnated, and the reincarnated seem to have memories of their past or future lives as if it were. dreams, and the promised land is the end of the cycle of reincarnation and they see everything as if it were dreams, apart from the title of dreaming dragon of ivaraj who will probably be the final villain of tension, everything revolves around these dreams, what do you guys do you think?
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it would be interesting if it is well explained, especially the Promised Land Question, I keep thinking that maybe Veldanava is there, outside that it can be a breach to higher dimensions, but the concept of dreams mainly of existing a world where everything is seen as a dream can be something promising. One of my crazy wishes is for Slime to have plot or story manipulation, and if everything is seen as a dream, then whoever controls that dream can come to have that power (although I don't know if that's how these powers work) But and you ? do you expect anything big from this?
 
JV_DLS said:
it would be interesting if it is well explained, especially the Promised Land Question, I keep thinking that maybe Veldanava is there, outside that it can be a breach to higher dimensions, but the concept of dreams mainly of existing a world where everything is seen as a dream can be something promising. One of my crazy wishes is for Slime to have plot or story manipulation, and if everything is seen as a dream, then whoever controls that dream can come to have that power (although I don't know if that's how these powers work) But and you ? do you expect anything big from this?
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there's this fact too, I hope it's real, now what I said is in relation to the plot, I think it makes the story much more intriguing and mysterious
 
LoganKroos said:
there's this fact too, I hope it's real, now what I said is in relation to the plot, I think it makes the story much more intriguing and mysterious
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and it can indeed have a plot manipulation, because if all worlds are dreams, the willpower to gain the skills would be a possible plot manipulation, since those who have more willpower have priority to manipulate dreams, even the reincarnated ones you have to have tremendous counting strength to be able to support your memories on the journey between worlds, it's a theory
 
While the idea was quickly discarded, there was a theory that maybe the promised land could be low 1-A, but seeing the VSB dimensions explanations for me almost fit neatly into a 1-B framework with the context of seeing everything as a dream can fit in as a banalization of all reality because the promised land is an infinitely higher dimension. I'm not saying yes, as I already understand that you need more information for this, my question is, could this somehow fit into 1-B or 1-A below? why ?

I'm saying this because I don't understand much about 1-B or 1-A structures
 
JV_DLS said:
While the idea was quickly discarded, there was a theory that maybe the promised land could be low 1-A, but seeing the VSB dimensions explanations for me almost fit neatly into a 1-B framework with the context of seeing everything as a dream can fit in as a banalization of all reality because the promised land is an infinitely higher dimension. I'm not saying yes, as I already understand that you need more information for this, my question is, could this somehow fit into 1-B or 1-A below? why ?

I'm saying this because I don't understand much about 1-B or 1-A structures
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if the worlds have proven spatial dimensions, the promised land would be 1A, or even High1A, as it is beyond the totality of worlds including transcendent worlds without time or space, and possibly above even digital beings
 
LoganKroos said:
if the worlds have proven spatial dimensions, the promised land would be 1A, or even High1A, as it is beyond the totality of worlds including transcendent worlds without time or space, and possibly above even digital beings
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but of course, for that to happen, the spatial dimensions would in fact transcend each other
 
Peak said:
it's going to be a stomp, don't do it, not even goku xeno who is the most powerful version has ways to finish Diablo because of the high-godly regeneration he has, in addition to type 2 abstract existence, while Diablo's ways to kill Goku are absurd, to begin, no version of him even surpasses the tons of passives the Diablo has. And that goes for the LN version too
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I know .I want to add it on Diablo's profile so bad .
 
Has anyone ever calculated how wide a planet is in the world of Tensura?

Considering in Volume 15 later Carrera is able to destroy planet, maybe she can get more than 5-B.
 
Thunderian said:
Has anyone ever calculated how wide a planet is in the world of Tensura?

Considering in Volume 15 later Carrera is able to destroy planet, maybe she can get more than 5-B.
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I don't think it's necessary, because the cardinal world is the semi material world with the most spells and logically the strongest world, almost all if not all at least demon lord level can be 5b or more depending on the translation
 
Demon Lord level must be continental, even in a weak world, Pulcinella could only destroy the continent, it's just that Carrera is way above average and that's why he has planetary achievements
 
Diablo_ said:
So diablo resist stamina drain .Any wincon for Diablo ?Xeno resists almost everything too
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I didn't know they had changed the resistance system to dimensionality, I thought it was still due to the number of people affected, honestly I don't know what Diablo can do, since he's 3D and Goku resists at 4D level, the The advantage is that Goku alone can't finish Diablo, but I don't know if this is maintained with the summons of other beings,
 
Peak said:
I didn't know they had changed the resistance system to dimensionality, I thought it was still due to the number of people affected, honestly I don't know what Diablo can do, since he's 3D and Goku resists at 4D level, the The advantage is that Goku alone can't finish Diablo, but I don't know if this is maintained with the summons of other beings,
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I prohibited summoning because 3-A vs 2-A is a big handicap(Well even though tier doesn't matter that much in Tensura unless higher dimensional)
 
Diablo_ said:
I prohibited summoning because 3-A vs 2-A is a big handicap(Well even though tier doesn't matter that much in Tensura unless higher dimensional)
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what's the chance of Turn null to finish goku xeno? It's the strongest power of Tensura so I think it's possible, but I really don't know how much Diablo is limited to a being with 4D resistance, I think I'll wait a while to understand better
 
Peak said:
what's the chance of Turn null to finish goku xeno? It's the strongest power of Tensura so I think it's possible, but I really don't know how much Diablo is limited to a being with 4D resistance, I think I'll wait a while to understand better
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Kinda feel like Turn null is massively nerfed in the wiki .I would've liked say 100% but the wiki description isn't enough
 
Diablo_ said:
Kinda feel like Turn null is massively nerfed in the wiki .I would've liked say 100% but the wiki description isn't enough
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I was looking at Diablo profile, shouldn't he have reality warping with Turn null too?
 
Catpija said:
only with Rimuru/Ciel permission, this isnt combat applicable since this is the same as bringing Rimuru himself at the battle, except if it a team battle
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Yes .He will need permission from Ceil/Rimuru so it isn't battle applicable
 
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