Tatsumaki (OPM) vs Merlin (NNT)

[Robo432343]

Tatsumaki (Tornado of Terror)

Tatsumaki (戦慄のタツマキ, Senritsu no Tatsumaki) also known as Tornado of Terror is the S-Class Rank 2 superhero, an esper and the older sister of Fubuki. Tatsumaki is one of the most powerful heroes in the entire Hero Association and is treated as one of their ultimate weapons to be used as a last...

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Merlin (Nanatsu no Taizai)

My lust for knowledge and wisdom was growing exponentially. It got to the point where I no longer knew if I could satiate it.Merlin explaining her gluttony Merlin is a member of the Seven Deadly Sins, the Boar's Sin of Gluttony. The greatest mage in all of Britannia, she went missing after the...

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[Kachon123]

Tatsumaki thinks Merlin to death

 

[Robo432343]

both characters are 1-A

 

[karo_senpaii]

Tatsumaki thinks Merlin to death

It won't matter

 

[Kachon123]

It won't matter

Why not?

 

[karo_senpaii]

Why not?

I'm going to leave the question of whether Merlin is durable enough to withstand it but in the instance that happens to her she'd already be transferred to her sacred treasure

 

[Majinere566]

Tatsumaki massive LS advantage might be deadly

 

[speedster352]

Merlin has thought based BFR

 

[Robo432343]

merlin has thought based bfr and tatsumaki has thought based LS crush

 

[Emerald]

Her bfr from what I’m seeing is her sending peeps to thousands of miles away. Which Tats can deal by just flying back or use her thousand km tk

 

[speedster352]

Her bfr from what I’m seeing is her sending peeps to thousands of miles away. Which Tats can deal by just flying back or use her thousand km tk

She sent hawks to purgatory which is another time space dimension.

 

[Robo432343]

but thats not merlins first move

 

[Makai641001]

Merlin has a few ways to win this:

Automatic seeking + traps, will create endless elemental traps that are triggered by Tatsumaki’s movements and « magic invocations » and using double impact on top of that will allow her to negate Tatsumaki’s resistances

Trapping her inside of Perfect Cube, Tatsumaki can’t really get out of it and will take her own abilities reflected back at her if she tries to attack it

Absolute cancel, she can just null Tatsumaki’s TK + her infinity allow her to cast spells infinitely

Her bfr from what I’m seeing is her sending peeps to thousands of miles away. Which Tats can deal by just flying back or use her thousand km tk

She has interdimensional range

Regarding tk Merlin just absolute cancels it

 

[Faa_Tzy]

Merlin won't directly bfr until Interdimensional except under certain conditions.

But some of Merlin's wincons are quite numerous, Tats will be hit by double impact, it's enough.

 

[speedster352]

Merlin won't directly bfr until Interdimensional except under certain conditions.

But some of Merlin's wincons are quite numerous, Tats will be hit by double impact, it's enough.

Bfr is her first move though she would also teleport herself away from danger like against Zeldris omnious nebula. Would telekinesis stop instant teleportation? I think not

 

[Arkansalter2]

So it's a game about who pops their hax first?

 

[speedster352]

Her bfr from what I’m seeing is her sending peeps to thousands of miles away. Which Tats can deal by just flying back or use her thousand km tk

But she spam teleports like she did to Vivian in other words Tatsumaki wouldn’t be able to focus and use TK when being spam teleported across the map.

 

[Makai641001]

Merlin won't directly bfr until Interdimensional except under certain conditions.

But some of Merlin's wincons are quite numerous, Tats will be hit by double impact, it's enough.

Merlin often start by protecting herself with perfect cube which would null TK

Once she has knowledge about that deadly tk she will just absolute cancel it on repeat

 

[Kachon123]

Automatic seeking + traps, will create endless elemental traps that are triggered by Tatsumaki’s movements and « magic invocations » and using double impact on top of that will allow her to negate Tatsumaki’s resistances

Tatsumaki would detect and deflect them.

Trapping her inside of Perfect Cube, Tatsumaki can’t really get out of it and will take her own abilities reflected back at her if she tries to attack it

Tatsumaki has a direct counter to this.

Absolute cancel, she can just null Tatsumaki’s TK +

Tatsumaki can do the same.

 

[TheRadiantSoul]

Merlin due to powernull and Teleportation.

Tatsu also has no way to bypass this ability:

Forcefield Creation and Attack Reflection (Perfect Cube returns all force used against it to the attacker[19][20])

 

[Robo432343]

Merlin due to powernull and Teleportation.

Tatsu also has no way to bypass this ability:

Forcefield Creation and Attack Reflection (Perfect Cube returns all force used against it to the attacker[19][20])

i dont think she has enough time to do that because of thought based TK crush thingy

 

[Kachon123]

Tatsu also has no way to bypass this ability:

Forcefield Creation and Attack Reflection (Perfect Cube returns all force used against it to the attacker[19][20])

Tatsumaki has a direct counter to this.

 

[speedster352]

i dont think she has enough time to do that because of thought based TK crush thingy

Good thing Merlin starts with teleportation and wouldn’t spam teleportation counter Tk you can grab something that keeps moving.

 

[Shadow-Ragna]

Honestly the victor depends on which hax or ability hits the hardest.

Since Merlin has that perfect cube which would defend herself from Tatsumaki's attacks, and given she is Moon level with with certain magic (Though that depends if she needs to use it). And also her hax can prove a pain for Tatsumaki since Merlin has a pot of abilities to use.

But Tatsumaki has higher LS which is Class E and she can think and twist Merlin's body as I recall she often starts out like that. Or she would grab Merlin with her mind and throw her into a building and create tornadoes with her powers.

 

[Makai641001]

Tatsumaki would detect and deflect them.

Can’t deflect them they just activate whenever she uses any type of power

They are « invisible and impossible to detect »

Tatsumaki has a direct counter to this.

She can reverse her own barrier that has been corrupted not something that just deflect every form of magic

Tatsumaki can do the same.

Overpowering something massively weaker than you ≠ nullifying any spell no matter how powerful

Honestly the victor depends on which hax or ability hits the hardest.

Merlin has 5-C attacks and could hurt Cath a 5-C being (at least) with basic lightnings

Since Merlin has that perfect cube which would defend herself from Tatsumaki's attacks, and given she is Moon level with with certain magic (Though that depends if she needs to use it). And also her hax can prove a pain for Tatsumaki since Merlin has a pot of abilities to use.

Merlin can defend against Tatsu’s TK using TP and absolute cancel

Tatsu can’t defend against her infinite traps

But Tatsumaki has higher LS which is Class E and she can think and twist Merlin's body as I recall she often starts out like that. Or she would grab Merlin with her mind and throw her into a building and create tornadoes with her powers.

Tatsu could defend herself against that same TK grab and null it before it killed her.

Merlin can insta null it

 

[Robo432343]

But how is merlin nulling thought based

 

[speedster352]

But how is merlin nulling thought based

Merlin’s teleportation is thought based

 

[Kachon123]

Merlin’s teleportation is thought based

Tatsumaki can erase Merlin instantly, which is a starting move. Not only would Merlin not just randomly teleport away in the beginning of the match, but she'd have to first process that she's being crushed, then somehow figure out Tatsumaki's max range, and then move the appropriate distance. The level of metal gymnastics needed to say that Merlin can do all of that before Tatsumaki can even think at equalized speed is astounding.

 

[Robo432343]

what if merlin teleports tats in a place beyond her range

 

[Kachon123]

what if merlin teleports tats in a place beyond her range

That is not a starting move, and Merlin has no clue what Tatsumaki's starting range.

On top of that, Merlin's magic would first need to penetrate Tatsumaki's active barrier that would deflect it.

 

[Majinere566]

Is energy equalized? If so would that mean Magic= Psychic Abilities?

 

[Robo432343]

are they similar enough to be equalized

 

[karo_senpaii]

Tatsumaki can erase Merlin instantly, which is a starting move. Not only would Merlin not just randomly teleport away in the beginning of the match, but she'd have to first process that she's being crushed, then somehow figure out Tatsumaki's max range, and then move the appropriate distance. The level of metal gymnastics needed to say that Merlin can do all of that before Tatsumaki can even think at equalized speed is astounding.

Like I said before this would just be same as galand petrifying her. She would just transfer herself to her sacred treasure

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Merlin has this:

Soul Manipulation (Can transfer her soul into another container in the event of being completely incapacitated[25])

So even if she is destroyed before doing anything, she will just move to another container and probably do some preparation considering what she saw from Tatsumaki.

 

[speedster352]

Tatsumaki can erase Merlin instantly, which is a starting move. Not only would Merlin not just randomly teleport away in the beginning of the match, but she'd have to first process that she's being crushed, then somehow figure out Tatsumaki's max range, and then move the appropriate distance. The level of metal gymnastics needed to say that Merlin can do all of that before Tatsumaki can even think at equalized speed is astounding.

Merlin can just BFR Tatsumaki like she did to Galand and Vivian it’s a thought based hax and also spam teleportation would affect Tatsumaki concentration which is essential for using telekinesis.

 

[speedster352]

That is not a starting move, and Merlin has no clue what Tatsumaki's starting range.

On top of that, Merlin's magic would first need to penetrate Tatsumaki's active barrier that would deflect it.

Teleportation spawns on the target it’s not an attack. Tastumaki is going to get the Vivian treatment

 

[Robo432343]

vivian

 

[Robo432343]

Merlin has this:

So even if she is destroyed before doing anything, she will just move to another container and probably do some preparation considering what she saw from Tatsumaki.

but the scan says before I got petrified
we are assuming tats rips her apart first

 

[Phoenks]

Based on what's been said so far, Merlin has a lot of first move options. Some win immediately (interdimensional BFR) and some don't win immediately.

Tatsumaki only really has one first move. It will always kill her. Merlin has no counter to thought-based TK crush into oblivion.

Thus, Tatsumaki already wins at minimum 50% of the time since her first move will always just completely destroy Merlin.

At the very best the match is inconclusive as a result. Tatsumaki and Merlin both have thought based instant win options.

However, Merlin's apparent versatility actually hinders her here.

Say that she uses that thought based win con 95% of the time. That other 5% of the time, Tatsumaki wins with her thought based thing, thus ultimately tipping the overall odds in her favor. And that's a generous assumption.

I vote Tatsumaki as a result. She has one, simple opening move, and it works.

 

[speedster352]

I am voting Merlin for her thought based BFR which is a starting move.