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Even if this is the only starting move for Merlin, the match is inconclusive because both have a 50/50 chance of winning.I am voting Merlin for her thought based BFR which is a starting move.
Voting Merlin is illogical.
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Even if this is the only starting move for Merlin, the match is inconclusive because both have a 50/50 chance of winning.I am voting Merlin for her thought based BFR which is a starting move.
She literally spam teleportation magic on Vivian and that was just to mess with her after all she has infinity so it’s not a problem. Merlin is a smart character and would just send her opponent far away. I would like reasons as to how Tatsumaki would be concentrated enough to pinpoint Merlin after be BFR repeatably?what if Merlin chooses thousands of KM BFR and not the interdimensional BFR
I mean I am agreeing with the Merlin beats Tatsumaki with her hax and vast use of abilities, but I am also commenting on Tatsumaki has LS advantage and starts with the crushing with her Psychic abilities.Merlin has 5-C attacks and could hurt Cath a 5-C being (at least) with basic lightnings
Merlin can defend against Tatsu’s TK using TP and absolute cancel
Tatsu can’t defend against her infinite traps
Tatsu could defend herself against that same TK grab and null it before it killed her.
Merlin can insta null it
Not really. In every scenerio Merlin escapes to her sacred treasureThe thing is, it is at best inconclusive for Merlin.
In her best case scenario, she manages to 50/50 Tatsumaki by using a thought-based kill move at the same time that Tatsumaki uses her thought-based kill move.
In every other scenario, she loses to Tatsumaki killing her with a thought and having Thousands of Kilometers of range and Extrasensory Perception.
So Tatsumaki is just by far the more likely winner. It's not complicated.
It is always hidden unless she decides to make it visible. So unless tatsumaki can sense her soul she won't even know Merlin survived until Merlin wants her to knowIs Merlin's sacred treasure just floating there? If it is, Tatsumaki would destroy it with Merlin the same way she also destroyed Psykos' floating eyes when crushing her.
I'm aware that it's hidden.It is always hidden unless she decides to make it visible. So unless tatsumaki can sense her soul she won't even know Merlin survived until Merlin wants her to know
Aldabra can be turned invisible or summoned or desummoned.I'm aware that it's hidden.
Since we're assuming that Merlin has Aldan right right next to her (there's no prep time for her to set it up elsewhere),Tatsumaki would immediately be aware of the sacred treasure's presence due to it being suspended by Merlin's telekinesis.
It's visibility is irrelevant because Tatsumaki has Extrasensory Perception. If Merlin does not have it summoned when the match starts, she'd be unable to transfer her soul.Aldabra can be turned invisible or summoned or desummoned.
Tatsumaki can erase Merlin instantly, which is a starting move
Does the ESP apply for soul and hidden magical artifacts that others can’t sense? Also Alden is a last resort anyway but it’s still a possibility. By the way Tatsumaki has a range limit for her telekinesis. So say she was sent too far away she wouldn’t be able to grab Merlin. And again she needs concentration to use her powers properly if she gets the Vivian treatment she is done for. But you do have a point this match may be inconclusive however thought based spamable mass BFR would be a viable win con.It's visibility is irrelevant because Tatsumaki has Extrasensory Perception. If Merlin does not have it summoned when the match starts, she'd be unable to transfer her soul.
Also, the entire "Merlin would just transfer her soul to the sacred treasure" argument is really silly. Merlin herself claimed that she can only do so before her main body is completely incapacitated, meaning the moment that Tatsumaki erases her with TK, the fight would be over as Merlin's body won't even exist anymore:
EDIT: Ninja'd on the last point
its TK crushIs tats starting move ap or a ls crush?
yesIs all aspect of speed equalized in this battle?
No coz it's invisible.I'm aware that it's hidden.
Since we're assuming that Merlin has Aldan right right next to her (there's no prep time for her to set it up elsewhere),Tatsumaki would immediately be aware of the sacred treasure's presence due to it being suspended by Merlin's telekinesis.
1. Arthur has ESP, was right there and also carried the rest people back to mama hawk. He never once sensed Merlin or he sacred treasure..he legit thought she was gone.It's visibility is irrelevant because Tatsumaki has Extrasensory Perception. If Merlin does not have it summoned when the match starts, she'd be unable to transfer her soul.
Also, the entire "Merlin would just transfer her soul to the sacred treasure" argument is really silly. Merlin herself claimed that she can only do so before her main body is completely incapacitated, meaning the moment that Tatsumaki erases her with TK, the fight would be over as Merlin's body won't even exist anymore:
EDIT: Ninja'd on the last point
How does she do this before being crushed?Not really. In every scenerio Merlin escapes to her sacred treasure
It’s the same way she did it before getting Petrifiied which is pretty instantaneous after lying infront of Galand.How does she do this before being crushed?
Is it thought based? If so, still results in a drawn result since neither is faster than the other.It’s the same way she did it before getting Petrifiied which is pretty instantaneous after lying infront of Galand.
There’s also this question I’ve asked if you got the answer?Alright one last thing
Her starting move. From what I’m seeing and know of is mostly used on Monsters that she views are of no importance to her.
Is there any case she instantly crushes a Human or Human like creature in the same manner she does the monsters in her verse?
Is it thought based? If so, still results in a drawn result since neither is faster than the other.
If not, she loses in that scenario as well.
Against Saitama, who resisted it.There’s also this question I’ve asked if you got the answer?
Orochi's dragon heads and Psykos the moment Tats wasn't preoccupied with the heroes. Her only 2 encounters with more relative monsters.Is there any case she instantly crushes a Human or Human like creature in the same manner she does the monsters in her verse?
It is thought based. Heck the petrification is kinda passive and she still pulled it off.Is it thought based? If so, still results in a drawn result since neither is faster than the other.
If not, she loses in that scenario as well.
What? This isn't true.Is it thought based? If so, still results in a drawn result since neither is faster than the other.
It was not instant. We see it happening slowly in the bottom-left before she was fully petrified in the next page, which lines up with her own words of her transferring her soul before it was completed (implies that it was not instant)Merlin reacted to herself instantly getting petrified by transfering her soul to aldan. Tats crushing her will still result in the same thing
I think there is a misunderstanding Aldan is al last resort. Merlin first move is to BFR her opponent to an extremely far distance like thousands of kilometres(she sent Vivian to a different time zone) or just spam teleportation which would give Tatsumaki the Vivian treatment or she just send her to a different dimension.
Sending people to different dimensions is not in character for her to do in combat, and especially not as her first instant move. Tatsumaki has a range of over 200 kilometers so the odds of Merlin BFR'ing Tatsumaki out of her range before Tatsumaki kills her are very low.she'd have to first somehow figure out Tatsumaki's max range, and then move the appropriate distance. The level of metal gymnastics needed to say that Merlin can do all of that before Tatsumaki can even think at equalized speed is astounding.
You seem to misunderstand. I'm saying that it is at best a draw if everything goes right for Merlin. Because she still just instant dies 50% of the time from the TK crush even in her best case scenarios.What? This isn't true.
While it's true that both abilities are instant, Tatsumaki's is an attack while Merlin's is a response to an attack. What this means is that Merlin still needs to be able to react to herself getting crushed in order to transfer her soul to Aldan, but because the attack is instant, there is no time for her to activate it in response.
Merlin dies.
Tatsumaki's is 236 kilometers. There's not nearly a difference enough to say that Merlin would know to teleport Tatsumaki that far. It's not as if she always teleports people 299 kilometers away.Merlin outranges her from what I’m seeing, Merlin range is at least a 186 miles (299km) and is shown to send Vivian through different timezons and climates.
Tats first move isn’t even a 100% kill move, Merlin can Absolute Cancel it, use perfect cube on herself, BFR Tats, use vector manip to deflect the TK grabThe thing is, it is at best inconclusive for Merlin.
In her best case scenario, she manages to 50/50 Tatsumaki by using a thought-based kill move at the same time that Tatsumaki uses her thought-based kill move.
In every other scenario, she loses to Tatsumaki killing her with a thought and having Thousands of Kilometers of range and Extrasensory Perception.
So Tatsumaki is just by far the more likely winner. It's not complicated.