So let's make up our minds because there are two arguments being spoken here.
Everything originally from the realm yes lol
Because the replacement multiverse was explicitly not shown to be the size of an anvil. It was of regular size. The World Forger just somehow created it with his hammer and anvil. Also, as AKM's scan showed, the nuclear processes within the stars functioned like normal.
This is actually a valid point, yes, but we preferably need more solid evidence.
The only thing we are shown are the anvil thing. Not far fetched to assume that's the multiverse. Especially since it was referred to as multiverse once too (?)
Shouldn't be too hard to find it. Pretty sure greenshifter had some on hand in another thread.
See above regarding the bias claim. It can much more easily be used against your side of the argument, given that me and AKM have provided plenty of logic and evidence, and, again, I really like both Superman and accuracy in general, but it is unfair to use ad hominem attacks in either direction.
AKM has taken the time to read the story, and has good working logic, and I have read thousands of DC comic books over the years, and am still compulsively obsessed with reliability and accuracy. Insults are not a good way to handle this argument.
That is much more reasonable than claiming that Superman can punch out high level cosmic entities left and right just by standing inside of the nearest star whenever he wants to. The evidence just seems rather flimsy or at least incoherent to me. It doesn't sit well with my preferences for reliability.
I don't mean to sound rude, but I don't think anyone is claiming that. Perhaps it's a communication error from both sides on the explicit nature of what;s being argued.
Well, this entire story gives me a headache due to how incoherently the premises were explained. I am just saying that at best what you are claiming seems self-contradictory.
Okay. That would be appreciated. Thank you.
Which apparently scales to everyone else as someone already brought it up earlier. So again, either we can argue that everybody became 1-A and Superman absorbing sunlight is moot. Or we go back to requiring proof of said stars releasing 1-A energy. I'll let the thread figure out what it is that is being argued first because it looks like a see-saw where arguments are constantly changing just to explain an inconsistency.
That is my main concern, yes.
Well, characters that enter the Low 1-C level "Sphere of the Gods" via Boom Tubes gain a similar scale as the inhabitants there.
If that is what will eventually be accepted, I would prefer to make it a new key titled "Amplified by Mxyzptlk and 6th-Dimensional Suns" or somesuch.
That's because they don't have the power nor technology to amp themselves to that level. Superman can't either, that's why he had to use phantom zone projector or boom tube back in post crisis
I agree with this
Did he enter the Sphere of the Gods via a Phantom Zone projector?
So what do AKM and the rest of our staff here think? Should we use this solution, in lack of better options?
Phantom zone projector does work like a dimensional amp, so don't see a problem there.
Okay.
No matter how you look at it, this entire thing is inconsistent. All I am seeing are excuses to somehow explain something that should be disregarded as an inconsistency.
Good point.
And Medeus. I think he also agrees with it.
Well, I suggested a two-step power-up as a solution, since I am tired of arguing and being met with hostility, but I technically think that AKM and the others on his side of the argument make better sense. I don't consider the alternative option as a disaster though.
Okay, you, Medeus, Planck, MarvelFanatic, and myself then, with Damage being ambivalent.
